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dex3108
11-06-2011, 03:09 AM
Release date is near only 9 days is left so we probably can expect first reviews to come due next week. So i am creating this topic so we can post reviews in one place. It would be great if we create some rules. For example posting review can look like this:

Reviewer - score

Category(story, graphic,sound...) - score
General impressions (spoiler free)

If review contain spoilers it must bee tagged with SPOILER! sign before spoiler part, or spoiler text color in white.

NewBlade200
11-06-2011, 06:41 PM
Perhaps it would have been better to post this when a review actually comes out? This thread will disappear in a week.

Sarari
11-07-2011, 09:56 AM
He's right. But you can't blame him for saving a spot before anybody else got a chance to make this thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mr_Shade
11-07-2011, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Sarari:
He's right. But you can't blame him for saving a spot before anybody else got a chance to make this thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif might not always work like that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If a thread comes along - with content before this one is updated - the one with more info is normally kept http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

other wise the forum would be full of placeholder threads...

dex3108
11-09-2011, 12:14 AM
IGN Assassin's Creed Revelations review will be up next Monday, November 14 at 9am PST

thedeadman_47
11-09-2011, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by woodexx:
IGN Assassin's Creed Revelations review will be up next Monday, November 14 at 9am PST
probably gameinformer at the same time as well and i think gamespot will be after that by 2-3 days

EscoBlades
11-09-2011, 05:55 PM
Most press that receive advance copies all have the same embargo. Which is Monday the 14th at 9am PST (5pm UK time)

Moultonborough
11-10-2011, 10:16 PM
Does that mean you are allowed to post a review at that time or you get a early copy of the game. I'm just curious how early reviewers get their copies.

dex3108
11-11-2011, 02:46 AM
Many reviewers are already having and playing game for a week i think so. So they just cant post review before 14th. Usual practice is that reviewers having game 7 days before release. Sometime that time is less than 7 days and sometime more than 7 days.

Mr_Shade
11-11-2011, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
Does that mean you are allowed to post a review at that time or you get a early copy of the game. I'm just curious how early reviewers get their copies. All reviewers in the UK are under an embargo - which means they can't publish the review until a certain time and date..

This also applies to other counties.

This is so that everyone has time to play the game, have an equal chance of getting visitors and also so that the communiity have a wide range of different reviews to compare.

Of course some many appear after that, depending on how busy the reviewer is, but they can't appear before.

In the UK all reviewers get the game at the same time (hopefully) the time they have the game changes with ACR release, due to shipping the game out etc.

They normally have it for at least4 or 5 days before the release date (which is plenty of time to complete a game, normally)

dex3108
11-14-2011, 10:14 AM
IGN - 8,5

Presentation 9

Graphics 8.5

Sound 8.5

Gameplay 8

Lasting Appeal 8.5

This is the best Assassin's Creed yet, even if that victory is claimed by an inch and not a mile. If you've been following the lives of Altair and Ezio this long, you owe it to yourself to see their last adventure.


oxm.co.uk - 8

Another worthwhile helping of the same old Creed

xboxgamezone.co.uk

Assassinís Creed Revelations serves as a fitting end to the trilogy of Ezio Auditore and a poignant look back at the life and times of Altair, while furthering the Desmond narrative in preparation for 2012?s title. An improvement on Brotherhood in almost every aspect, with a more dynamic and focused storyline, a more vibrant playground in Constantinople and lots of innovative features like Den Defence and the Hookblade. Bombcrafting and some occasional frame rate drops do little to mar this otherwise excellent title. And a vastly enhanced persistent multiplayer portion should add some extra replay factor for those that wish to slay other Templars over Xbox Live. Certainly a strong contender for Game of the Year, and another tick in the right box for the jewel in Ubisoftís crown.

Gamespot - 8

Good:
New movement options keep the platforming joyful
Brotherhood recruitment has been nicely fleshed out
Gorgeous, vibrant world with a lot to do
Fantastic soundtrack
Emotionally fulfilling ending

Bad:
Tower defense isn't fun
Desmond sections aren't fun
Disappointing main story.

As enjoyable as Revelations' multiplayer modes are, it's the single-player adventure that elicits the strongest reactions. The enhanced acrobatics make the simple act of moving from one place to the next an enormous delight. The improved recruitment mechanics communicate that there are, in fact, high stakes in this underground war between Templars and assassins. Not everything that's new represents an improvement, however. First-person puzzling and tower defense are bewildering, unenjoyable additions to a game that didn't need them. On the bright side, the game usually sticks to what it does best. And what Revelations does best is to set you free in a magnificent city, where you skyrocket across the rooftops, letting the gorgeous sights and evocative music transport you to another life and another century.

DylanJosh9
11-14-2011, 10:16 AM
Gamespot - 8/10
http://uk.gamespot.com/assassi...ons/platform/xbox360 (http://uk.gamespot.com/assassins-creed-revelations/platform/xbox360)

Guardian - 4/5
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tech...elations-game-review (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/nov/14/assassins-creed-revelations-game-review)

DylanJosh9
11-14-2011, 10:19 AM
GameTrailers - 8.8/10
http://www.gametrailers.com/ga...ed-revelations/14797 (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/assassins-creed-revelations/14797)

Edge 7
http://www.next-gen.biz/review...22&%24Domain=.bit.ly (http://www.next-gen.biz/reviews/assassins-creed-revelations-review?page=2&%24Path=%22%2F%22&%24Domain=.bit.ly)

dex3108
11-14-2011, 10:24 AM
xbox360achievements.org - 88


Audio 90

Visuals 90

Playability 85

Delivery 85

Achievements 70


For a game with the suffix 'Revelations', there are surprisingly few to be found here. Still a solid and immensely enjoyable game, Assassin's Creed: Revelations nonetheless fails to instil the same level of excitement that previous games in the series managed to muster, reheating many of Brotherhood's mechanics and throwing in a few half-hearted features for good measure. It's the end of an era for sure, and well worth playing to see through Ezio and Altair's respective stories, but don't expect to enjoy it quite as much as AC II and Brotherhood. Perhaps the only real revelation to be found here, is the possibility that Assassin's Creed is in imminent danger of passing its sell by date. Your move, Assassin's Creed III.

officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk - 9

Its characters have been linked beautifully, and those intrigued by the ongoing battles for the pieces of Eden will be happy to see the storyline tied up in as neat a bow as possible. As a conclusion for Ezioís chapter, Revelations proves an utterly brilliant swansong.

DylanJosh9
11-14-2011, 10:28 AM
Destructoid 7.5/10
http://www.destructoid.com/rev...lations-215700.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/review-assassin-s-creed-revelations-215700.phtml)

LordWolv
11-14-2011, 10:29 AM
Well done Ubisoft, these are great (but quite familiar) scores. Every year they do seem quite 'repetitive', but none the less, I'm glad you've kept up expectations.

dex3108
11-14-2011, 10:45 AM
Only thing that ****ing me of is telling it is same like others AC. For god sake gameplay is same everything else is not. Gameplay must stay same it is something that defines AC games.

Noble6
11-14-2011, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by woodexx:
Only thing that ****ing me of is telling it is same like others AC. For god sake gameplay is same everything else is not. Gameplay must stay same it is something that defines AC games.
Assasins Creed's gameplay should evolve in my opinion as should everything else. I just like to get new experiences and experiences that games offer include gameplay.

Jexx21
11-14-2011, 11:02 AM
A rating of 7-9 seems about right for the whole franchise. Good job UbiSoft.

SleezeRocker
11-14-2011, 11:15 AM
Prett fair scores
Until I play myself I'll be able to judje but so far im going for 9 which is .5 more than Brothehrood http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

shobhit7777777
11-14-2011, 11:21 AM
An 8? 4 games down and the latest gets an 8. Not surprised actually. The franchise has seen **** all evolution and the developers have stuffed it full of extraneous and useless features while ignoring the core gameplay that made it great.
I've said it once and I'll say it again...Improve the social stealth and allow mission planning and freedom when conducting assassinations (freedom to choose approach, investigations etc.)
"Exotic gameplay" are trite nonsense and drip cheese, Den Defense could've been scrapped and a frickin crouch button would've been welcome, The hookblade could've been replaced by sharper AI.

Just played AC1 and I find the whole feel to be so authentic and realistic when compared to the later games. The immersion and the feeling of actually being an Assassin is much higher in AC1. The over-the-top moments in the following games and the linearity really has sapped a lot from a franchise...post AC games feel...so...kiddish.

nonetheless I'm going to get Revelations...the gameplay of the franchise is still brilliant.

kriegerdesgottes
11-14-2011, 11:23 AM
The scores all seem fair to me. They are all what I expected the game to be. The main complaints about the game that I have seen so far are fair as well imo.

shobhit7777777
11-14-2011, 11:36 AM
The more I read reviews the more my previous views on the franchise's direction are cemented

Quoted from GI's Review


Equally important, these missions are some of the best designed in the series so far. Action-packed chases mix with stealthy tails through busy city streets. Incite riots one moment and infiltrate an enemy fortress the next. New, cinematic camera angles occasionally accentuate the drama. It all comes together in the end through an extended conclusion that offers some of the most captivating moments in the series.

Missions designed around core gameplay pillars, playing to the game's strength=Awesome

Whereas the new additions, waved around in interviews and trailers Hookblades and crafting are met with a lukewarm response "Yeah they're cool n all but that's about it"

@Developers, Ubi Montreal

Get back to the basics, improve on the core gameplay...something which has been ignored since the second game.

sticks165
11-14-2011, 12:31 PM
machinima gave it a 7.5

Jexx21
11-14-2011, 12:37 PM
I think that bombs and the hookblade are a really great addition to the franchise. I think Den Defense is more of a testing thing, but I still think that I'll love it.

I still think that I'll love most aspects of ACR, so http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

playassassins1
11-14-2011, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by sticks165:
machinima gave it a 7.5


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Machinima = Computer. Me = Guy with a hammer.

roostersrule2
11-14-2011, 12:42 PM
These aren't bad or negative reviews but I don't get how ACR gets punished for having some elements from the previous game and COD gets praised for it when they don't add anything to it. However Ubisoft for AC3 you need to do something big and if you have been working on it since AC2 then it should be okay. Hopefully you will be able to do it bi-yearly and get that break of yours.

Jexx21
11-14-2011, 12:53 PM
Here is what I think the best review I have seen is:

http://www.computerandvideogam...tions-review/?page=1 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/326016/reviewsassassins-creed-revelations-review/?page=1)

an 8.5

ShaneO7K
11-14-2011, 12:58 PM
Seen a 5 star rating earlier, forget which site though.

Sparty2020
11-14-2011, 01:05 PM
5/10 (http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamerno?filter=games)
6/10 (http://www.metacritic.com/publication/level7nu?filter=games)
7/10 (http://www.metacritic.com/publication/eurogamer?filter=games)

Overall metacritic score: 79/100 (http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/assassins-creed-revelations/critic-reviews)

I'm dissapointed, this is a large departure from the other games in the series and since I only have $60 to spend on one game it seems I'm gonna Skyrim and hold off on getting Revelations. Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Ubi that more is not always better, both in terms of gameplay and in games.

luckyto
11-14-2011, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by shobhit7777777:
An 8? 4 games down and the latest gets an 8. Not surprised actually. The franchise has seen **** all evolution and the developers have stuffed it full of extraneous and useless features while ignoring the core gameplay that made it great.
I've said it once and I'll say it again...Improve the social stealth and allow mission planning and freedom when conducting assassinations (freedom to choose approach, investigations etc.)
"Exotic gameplay" are trite nonsense and drip cheese, Den Defense could've been scrapped and a frickin crouch button would've been welcome, The hookblade could've been replaced by sharper AI.

Just played AC1 and I find the whole feel to be so authentic and realistic when compared to the later games. The immersion and the feeling of actually being an Assassin is much higher in AC1. The over-the-top moments in the following games and the linearity really has sapped a lot from a franchise...post AC games feel...so...kiddish.

nonetheless I'm going to get Revelations...the gameplay of the franchise is still brilliant.

Yes. I suspected this. Marketing for ACR and ACB has focused so much on "cool new mechanics" which aren't more than experimentation, facebook point-click-level games and a potpourri of things tacked on to add "value", when in fact, they were shortchanging the important stuff (map size, AI, combat mechanics) to make one-year turnaround times. ACB certainly felt like a cash-in with bells and whistles.

On the bright side, the reviews seem clear that the presentation (story-telling) aspect of AC is better than ever. I can only imagine AC1 with excellent cinematics, storyboards, strong voice-acting and a little better mission variety. Truly, Ubisoft has finally started to nail this aspect of a game.

And also, Revelations is like to have the best NPC population ever created. Brotherhood did. They have truly upped their game there.

Ubisofts needs to go to their Assassin roots and focus on core mechanics: fighting, leveling up, stealth, enemy AI, notoriety systems, pick pocketing, map size and environment variety --- before moving forward with any new mechanics. Take the best piece of each release and focus on integrating them into a more complex whole.

I'm glad the critics aren't giving it a free pass the way they did COD. Better games can come from it.


From Eurogamer

The hook is also used to extend your climbing reach. Once the new tool is in place, though, climbing is no longer the quiet, stealthy exercise it has always been. One of the essential recurring moments in the Assassin's Creed series has been quietly scaling the side of building, like a spider, and enjoying the bliss of creeping where most mortals cannot.
Yet with this new piece of equipment, your climbs are punctuated by the sound of Ezio's metal hook repeatedly striking the wall. The noise itself isn't especially unpleasant, but it's the sound of superfluous gadgetry, and not something that you'd expect to hear from a man who lives his life in shadows. This game is haunted by that sound. Clank, clank, clank.

I'm scared.

Grandmaster_Z
11-14-2011, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by shobhit7777777:
An 8? 4 games down and the latest gets an 8. Not surprised actually. The franchise has seen **** all evolution and the developers have stuffed it full of extraneous and useless features while ignoring the core gameplay that made it great.
I've said it once and I'll say it again...Improve the social stealth and allow mission planning and freedom when conducting assassinations (freedom to choose approach, investigations etc.)
"Exotic gameplay" are trite nonsense and drip cheese, Den Defense could've been scrapped and a frickin crouch button would've been welcome, The hookblade could've been replaced by sharper AI.

Just played AC1 and I find the whole feel to be so authentic and realistic when compared to the later games. The immersion and the feeling of actually being an Assassin is much higher in AC1. The over-the-top moments in the following games and the linearity really has sapped a lot from a franchise...post AC games feel...so...kiddish.

nonetheless I'm going to get Revelations...the gameplay of the franchise is still brilliant.

tru

Jexx21
11-14-2011, 01:12 PM
the Metacritic score for the game is now 80.

I don't judge the Metacritic score until a week or a month after the game releases because some reviews take a while to come in.

Sparty2020
11-14-2011, 01:18 PM
For the PS3 version it's an 80, for Xbox it's 79, for PC... it's still undisclosed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Ezio292012
11-14-2011, 01:22 PM
if you have to buy a game cus some one elss say its good or not then WOW


for me im the one who will revew the game and see if i like it or not i dont need some one elss review the game for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jexx21
11-14-2011, 01:26 PM
It keeps shifting from 79 to 80 each time I refresh the page O.o

Anyway, the CVG review said that the end of ACR alluded to AC3 refreshing the series.

And ACR is still getting 90+ reviews, and 80 is still a pretty good score honestly. It's just not what we want.

ShaneO7K
11-14-2011, 01:27 PM
I'm guessing a few of the metacritic reviews may be people who are new to the games or started with ACB and don't fully know what is going on themselves. I'd give it a few weeks as the people you could most rely on with a review are most likely too busy playing the game.

Just a guess, because from what I have heard from ACR is nothing as bad as a 5-7/10.

Will_Lucky
11-14-2011, 01:41 PM
Honestly, the reviews don't worry me at all. The main criticism seems to be that its too close to Brotherhood and hasn't changed enough yet they all all conclude its the best AC yet.

Quite frankly the same could be said of Call of Duty, Uncharted, Forza 4, Battlefield 3 ect. All of those games have powerful publisher behind them. And their review scores show it.

Animuses
11-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Will_Lucky:
Quite frankly the same could be said of Call of Duty, Uncharted, Forza 4, Battlefield 3 ect. All of those games have powerful publisher behind them. And their review scores show it.
Very well said.

Jexx21
11-14-2011, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by luckyto:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">From Eurogamer

The hook is also used to extend your climbing reach. Once the new tool is in place, though, climbing is no longer the quiet, stealthy exercise it has always been. One of the essential recurring moments in the Assassin's Creed series has been quietly scaling the side of building, like a spider, and enjoying the bliss of creeping where most mortals cannot.
Yet with this new piece of equipment, your climbs are punctuated by the sound of Ezio's metal hook repeatedly striking the wall. The noise itself isn't especially unpleasant, but it's the sound of superfluous gadgetry, and not something that you'd expect to hear from a man who lives his life in shadows. This game is haunted by that sound. Clank, clank, clank.

I'm scared. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The stupid *shink* sound that the hidden blade makes whenever you killed someone with it in AC1/AC2 was more annoying than a clank clank clank. Besides, I actually like the sound of it. I also wouldn't want it to be silent.

luckyto
11-14-2011, 02:01 PM
I loved that *shink* sound.

The main criticism has been that there are lot of gimmicky game mechanics (bombs and den defence) and not enough time spent on solid story, game mechanics, and single player campaign. Basically, the rush to meet a year deadline shows. Ubisoft is tacking on things which don't fit and haven't had the time to be ironed out, and don't have time to address the core game elements. Not that it is more of the same.


From Destructoid:

You need to be a die-hard Assassin's Creed fanboy to be blind to the apparent flaws in this latest semi-sequel, but that doesn't mean Revelations is a mediocre game or even a mediocre package; it just won't be good enough for most fans. Brotherhood already showed a small but noticeable decline in quality compared to Assassin's Creed II, but it still had plenty of good moments and offered better gameplay than its predecessor. Revelations shows a further decline and simply doesn't add enough in terms of gameplay to make up for the unfocused and disappointing story. You'll get some answers but they don't give you anything you couldn't have lived without. That is, apart from the traditional "WTF" ending, which, thankfully, doesn't disappoint.

As much as Assassin's Creed: Revelations is a testament to the inevitable cost of trying to milk your franchise too much, too fast, it is still a fun game that gives you the single-player gameplay you've come to know and love, but sadly offers little more on that front. A few months after you finish it Revelations will be that game that had better make Assassin's Creed III worth the price Ubisoft has had to pay to release both titles on schedule,

Sounds like a good game that is a must-buy for AC fans, but with noticeable quirks from a rush production job and a few "iffy" new game elements.

pacmanate
11-14-2011, 02:08 PM
Brothers and sisters of the creed

there is only one review that matters

and that is your own personal review of how you feel when YOU get to play the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PEACE OUT

Animuses
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
The stupid *shink* sound that the hidden blade makes whenever you killed someone with it in AC1/AC2 was more annoying than a clank clank clank. Besides, I actually like the sound of it. I also wouldn't want it to be silent.
Stupid? It's was the defining sound of the hidden blade and it was AWESOME. It was STUPID to have gotten rid of it.

Ezio292012
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by pacmanate:
Brothers and sisters of the creed

there is only one review that matters

and that is your own personal review of how you feel when YOU get to play the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PEACE OUT


yep

sticks165
11-14-2011, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by pacmanate:
Brothers and sisters of the creed

there is only one review that matters

and that is your own personal review of how you feel when YOU get to play the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PEACE OUT

what he said ^^

Jexx21
11-14-2011, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Animuses:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jexx21:
The stupid *shink* sound that the hidden blade makes whenever you killed someone with it in AC1/AC2 was more annoying than a clank clank clank. Besides, I actually like the sound of it. I also wouldn't want it to be silent.
Stupid? It's was the defining sound of the hidden blade and it was AWESOME. It was STUPID to have gotten rid of it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I personally felt like it distracted from the experience.

And about that Destructoid review.. they gave AC2 a 4.5

Mr_Shade
11-14-2011, 03:01 PM
If I was still reviewing games.. I would give it a 9.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Maybe a 10 due to the awesome soundtrack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

luckyto
11-14-2011, 03:02 PM
Destructoid is one of many. Look at the headline for 1Up's review: "Assassin's Creed Revelations is a Solid Sequel That Shows The Flaw of Annual Installments".

At the end of the day, I'll be happier than most reviewers; but I'll likely have the same complaints that I had about ACB. That's what the reviews tell me. Level my expectations and expect more of ACB with a slightly better story.

roostersrule2
11-14-2011, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
If I was still reviewing games.. I would give it a 9.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Maybe a 10 due to the awesome soundtrack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif You should work at all the review places. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

EscoBlades
11-14-2011, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
If I was still reviewing games.. I would give it a 9.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Maybe a 10 due to the awesome soundtrack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I'd read the hell out of your review http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Animuses
11-14-2011, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
And about that Destructoid review.. they gave AC2 a 4.5
...I think we should avoid Destructoid.

rileypoole1234
11-14-2011, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
If I was still reviewing games.. I would give it a 9.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Maybe a 10 due to the awesome soundtrack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


I'd give it a 10 as well mate, and I haven't even played it! I'm an avid AC fan, so I know I will love and cherish it, so that's all that matters to me.

RzaRecta357
11-14-2011, 03:38 PM
Well, I loved all the reviews. They basically say the game is great but den defense feels tacked on and the game is pretty much more of the same.

More of the same is alright for me because I love the story. But I hope AC3 brings alot to the table and is completely different.

dex3108
11-14-2011, 03:48 PM
There is scores from 7 to 10 out there. I haven't seen so much variations for a long time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

De Filosoof
11-14-2011, 03:56 PM
Haha Destructoid is funny!

A 4.5 for AC2 ?! and a 9.5 for modern warfare 3 hahaha! says enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

iNt0xiCaT3dSainT
11-14-2011, 04:05 PM
As much as i like gametrailers' reviews, i feel like slapping them VERY hard. How the he*l can you say "This is shaping to be the best AC yet" and give the game a 8.8, the lowest rate any console game for AC has gotten? And yet they gave mw3 a 9.3... Talk about morons..

SleezeRocker
11-14-2011, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
If I was still reviewing games.. I would give it a 9.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Maybe a 10 due to the awesome soundtrack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oh man I can't wait to plug in the osundtrack to my computer and put em in my ipod! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I especially want to listen to the multiplayer background song that played in the beta http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We should make a thread of our personal reviews of ACR, sounds like fun! but when owuld be the best time to do it, since not everyone would be getting it, least till thanskgiving time?

Sparty2020
11-14-2011, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
It keeps shifting from 79 to 80 each time I refresh the page O.o

Anyway, the CVG review said that the end of ACR alluded to AC3 refreshing the series.

And ACR is still getting 90+ reviews, and 80 is still a pretty good score honestly. It's just not what we want. It is a good score, in fact it's a great score. Problem is that November simply has better options such as Skyrim (just got it now), Batman, Uncharted, and... well that's it. I only work part-time and had $60 to spare, can't afford to get everything I want right now and some games will simply have to be delayed.

Mad_Fox84
11-14-2011, 06:17 PM
Anybody watch Playr?
They gave ACR 9.5.

matheus_737
11-14-2011, 07:05 PM
for me its ridiculous the way who video game sites are talking about revelations "is the same like the others" of course it is COD, Uncharted, MGS changed something NO the gameplay is the same is the essence of the game looks like AC is the only franchise that needs to change the gameplay EVERY greatest franchise do not great changes and cintinued to be good as GOD of war for example . And I now I will love the game i will not listen this sites anymore.

shobhit7777777
11-14-2011, 09:25 PM
@Luckyto

Yes. I suspected this. Marketing for ACR and ACB has focused so much on "cool new mechanics" which aren't more than experimentation, facebook point-click-level games and a potpourri of things tacked on to add "value", when in fact, they were shortchanging the important stuff (map size, AI, combat mechanics) to make one-year turnaround times. ACB certainly felt like a cash-in with bells and whistles.

On the bright side, the reviews seem clear that the presentation (story-telling) aspect of AC is better than ever. I can only imagine AC1 with excellent cinematics, storyboards, strong voice-acting and a little better mission variety. Truly, Ubisoft has finally started to nail this aspect of a game.

And also, Revelations is like to have the best NPC population ever created. Brotherhood did. They have truly upped their game there.

Ubisofts needs to go to their Assassin roots and focus on core mechanics: fighting, leveling up, stealth, enemy AI, notoriety systems, pick pocketing, map size and environment variety --- before moving forward with any new mechanics. Take the best piece of each release and focus on integrating them into a more complex whole.

QFT! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


@All Defending the scores

Please do not make the comparisons between ACR and other franchises like UC and COD. The latter franchises have seen a steady and evolutionary development with each successive game. AC on the other hand (post ACII) has seen mutations. No logical progression of game mechanics.

Issues like Combat, Social Stealth, Crowd and enemy AI have not been developed much and instead they are tacked on with half-balked features and forgotten about.

In a game about being a member of a shadowy organisation, operating covertly you seem to do a LOT of overt 'Micahel Bay' stunts. Bombs, waging open warfare, not even trying to maintain ANY level of secrecy...heck in ACB Ezio ran around with the piece of Eden, using it willy nilly to defeat a bunch of Templars....in broad daylight...in front of hundereds of Romans.


The Series is losing focus and is becoming increasingly arcadey. Adding on features which add EFF-ALL in terms of gameplay depth.

Chronomancy
11-14-2011, 09:35 PM
I would give ACR maybe a 6.

I found the MP incredibly boring, and the SP doesn't interest me enough to jump on and play.

kosmoscreed
11-14-2011, 09:39 PM
Some of the reviewers are full of it, how can some of them say it's a litle better than ACB and score it below.

But it really feels like a small step compared to ACB and the game is short if you take into account the story missions only but I rather have this than a game full of filler story missions.

I liked the den defense but the bombs and hockblade, there is something about it that don't work.

I barely use ziplines or the hockblade, they hyped this stuff too much.

Animuses
11-14-2011, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by shobhit7777777:
Please do not make the comparisons between ACR and other franchises like UC and COD. The latter franchises have seen a steady and evolutionary development with each successive game. No they haven't. CoD has hardly changed since CoD4 and the only thing UC2 added from UC were a few stealth moves and a crap load of action. UC2 even took out UC's combos in melee. I don't know about UC3, but it only looks like it added quick time(I think that's what it's called) melee which is still not better than UC's melee.

I do completely agree with what you said about AC though.

SleezeRocker
11-14-2011, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Animuses:
No they haven't. CoD has hardly changed since CoD4. I don't know about UC3, but it only looks like it added quick time(I think that's what it's called) melee which is still not better than UC's melee.


Melee in Uncharted 3 is horrible! If you were to play it, you think that UC3 was trying to do the Freeflow combat from Batman, Sqaure, Attack, triangle counter, Cricle grapple('stun') but more messier and...well the combat is like Arhthitis or someting; rigid. It's how I'd describe it

RzaRecta357
11-14-2011, 11:30 PM
Chrono have you actually played it yet or are you basing that on reviews?

If you loved the other ACs which I assume you do since your here every day swapping your sigs and avatars around.

I don't see why people are stressing out. Honestly. It's obvious that they're cashing in while adding to story. Did you guys complain when GTA Vice City and San Andreas came out?

Watch when AC3 comes out and blows minds! Haha. ACR will make us story lovers happy and the game will be fun.

Half the time the true fans are smarter than the reviewers whom just burn through the game and don't see the true magic of it.

LordWolv
11-14-2011, 11:55 PM
Brotherhood and Revelations... Although full games, only really exist for three reasons: To scoop in the money, to keep the fans interested, and to lead up to ACIII in 2012. Personally, I didn't set my hopes high whatsoever that Revelations would be an advance to Brotherhood. Now, I am getting the game today, so I can't judge. But Brotherhood felt like an advance from ACII; For me it was mostly the world that had advanced as well as some surprising, but epic, combat aspects. I was glad there wasn't too much of a change, however, because I've fell in love with AC and a radical change would get on my nerves. To me it all depends whether or not Revelations feels the same as Brotherhood. Whether I get that fresh 'Wow' feeling, and a smile on my face. Lets face it, we know Ubisoft, they're going to come out with a great story, some great characters and great missions. And this is all fine and great. But if I don't get that fresh feeling, I'm afraid, Revelations might just disappoint me. (That said, though, if Revelations is horrible our expectations of ACIII will be shooting through the roof)

roostersrule2
11-14-2011, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
Chrono have you actually played it yet or are you basing that on reviews?

If you loved the other ACs which I assume you do since your here every day swapping your sigs and avatars around.

I don't see why people are stressing out.
Honestly. It's obvious that they're cashing in while adding to story. Did you guys complain when GTA Vice City and San Andreas came out?

Watch when AC3 comes out and blows minds! Haha. ACR will make us story lovers happy and the game will be fun.

Half the time the true fans are smarter than the reviewers whom just burn through the game and don't see the true magic of it. He/she has got it but I agree with you and it's a brilliant game anyway it's just do different.

Chronomancy
11-15-2011, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
Chrono have you actually played it yet or are you basing that on reviews?

If you loved the other ACs which I assume you do since your here every day swapping your sigs and avatars around.

I don't see why people are stressing out. Honestly. It's obvious that they're cashing in while adding to story. Did you guys complain when GTA Vice City and San Andreas came out?

Watch when AC3 comes out and blows minds! Haha. ACR will make us story lovers happy and the game will be fun.

Half the time the true fans are smarter than the reviewers whom just burn through the game and don't see the true magic of it.

Yes, I have played the game.

I never base anything on a review either.

De Filosoof
11-15-2011, 03:27 AM
Chrono come on...a 6?!

What kinda AC fan would give revelations a 6.
What kinda changes were you expecting, that Ezio can fly in a jetfighter this time around? or that he had a purple ***** to slap peoples faces with?

Chronomancy
11-15-2011, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by thijs_bijlsma:
Chrono come on...a 6?!

What kinda AC fan would give revelations a 6.
What kinda changes were you expecting, that Ezio can fly in a jetfighter this time around? or that he had a purple ***** to slap peoples faces with?

A true AC fan gives Ubisoft praise when it's needed and negative feedback when it's called for.

De Filosoof
11-15-2011, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Chronomancy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thijs_bijlsma:
Chrono come on...a 6?!

What kinda AC fan would give revelations a 6.
What kinda changes were you expecting, that Ezio can fly in a jetfighter this time around? or that he had a purple ***** to slap peoples faces with?

A true AC fan gives Ubisoft praise when it's needed and negative feedback when it's called for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A 6 is kinda harsh...What was your rating for AC:B when it came out?

woowu
11-15-2011, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Chronomancy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thijs_bijlsma:
Chrono come on...a 6?!

What kinda AC fan would give revelations a 6.
What kinda changes were you expecting, that Ezio can fly in a jetfighter this time around? or that he had a purple ***** to slap peoples faces with?

A true AC fan gives Ubisoft praise when it's needed and negative feedback when it's called for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I love this attitude. Some here just blindly praise a game they haven't even played just because it's their next game in their fav. franchise. It doesn't work that way. Learn to have an objective judgement of a product or a service!

All of you know Ubisoft was cashing in with ACB and ACR. Both stories are not needed and we could have continued with a new character in a 2-3 year developed AC3 to get our back-info. The continous milking this franchise is suffering will bring it down to it's knees.

Unlike most of you, I couldn't care less about numbers thrown in a review but the actual wording inside that review. Of course I judge the game for myself but when some of my opinions are the same as most reviewers'opinions, then we have a problem.

I don't have the game yet, but from what I've seen, they upped the graphics and mechanics but it's still more of the same and that's not a good thing at all. Sure Constantinople will be great and all that but enhance the mechanics while you're at it:

Stealth is useless in these games and IMO it's a loss for them because they should be improving it in every way possible, hence the name: Assassin's creed. Instead they are losing focus on other minor gimmicks that are useless in the core game itself, because the game lacks any challenge at all.
In Batman AC you're forced to THINK what gadget is best for a stealthy situation, or what is most appropriate for a combat one, because otherwise, everything is reckless.
In here you have layers upon layers of things to use but could very well end the game with only one weapon. The game is not rewarding the player at all.

I'm not a hater of the franchise, since I still own ALL the AC games, but I do what I must in voicing my opinion when I see no progress at all regarding this series.

We should not be pleased with more of the same, and we should ask for a longer development time for the upcoming games to be stellar.

Comparisons between this game and MW3 or other yearly releases aren't doing it justice either and are dragging it further down. Instead we should compare it to great games and their mechanics to see what can be done. RDR, Batman AC and Skyrim come to mind...

shobhit7777777
11-15-2011, 03:48 AM
@Animuses

No they haven't. CoD has hardly changed since CoD4 and the only thing UC2 added from UC were a few stealth moves and a crap load of action. UC2 even took out UC's combos in melee. I don't know about UC3, but it only looks like it added quick time(I think that's what it's called) melee which is still not better than UC's melee.

I said "evolution" not change. The games retain the core mechanics, add more it them and design the game around. They address the issues in previous games and add in a logical progression.

Whereas AC has been stuffed with mechanics not even remotely related to the core fantasy of being a Master Assassin.

There is no development in the pillars of the gameplay...just fluff added to make the game look "cool"


@thijs_bijlsma

Chrono come on...a 6?!

What kinda AC fan would give revelations a 6.

Eh..?

That's flawed logic don't you think? Being a fan doesn't mean you will accept everything the devs put out. You give valid feedback on what's working and what isn't.

Chronomancy
11-15-2011, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by thijs_bijlsma:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chronomancy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thijs_bijlsma:
Chrono come on...a 6?!

What kinda AC fan would give revelations a 6.
What kinda changes were you expecting, that Ezio can fly in a jetfighter this time around? or that he had a purple ***** to slap peoples faces with?

A true AC fan gives Ubisoft praise when it's needed and negative feedback when it's called for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A 6 is kinda harsh...What was your rating for AC:B when it came out? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I gave ACB a 9.

woowu
11-15-2011, 03:58 AM
Agree with shobhit7777777.

All the games have been adding since the first was just fluff instead of modifying the core pillars.

If AC3 doesn't come up with some seriously revamped combat and stealth (and CHALLENGING) I will have my doubts in giving Ubi my hard earned cash.

Also, being a fan does not equal being a blind sheep.

Unlike some "fans" here, I can bad-mouth this game and still have tons of fun with it when it will arrive. It's just that after being spoiled with great gameplay systems in other games, this will just feel like the annual AC release with more of the same, and I'm kinda dissapointed in that.

YuurHeen
11-15-2011, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by woowu:


Also, being a fan does not equal being a blind sheep.

.

i kinda disagree with you there. or at least a almost blind sheep. a true fan or fanatic is blind and follows like a flock. thats why i am not a fan of any thing or anyone.

Animuses
11-15-2011, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by Chronomancy:
I gave ACB a 9.
That's one of the few problems along with annual releases. Brotherhood was given too much positive feedback while it should've been criticized a lot more.

DeSabellis
11-15-2011, 06:28 AM
I still do not get what previous games, AC 1 through Brotherhood, have to do with Revelations score.

If you were to take out all of those other games, and pretend they didn't exist, I feel confident that the score would have risen.

All in all, do games really change that much? Skyrim plays a lot like Oblivion did- the joy however is having a completely new game that reminds you of one of your favorite games. None of these reviews seem too... original anymore. Gametrailers is a perfect example of that. According to them, a campaign can last 5 hours (MW3), or well over 100 hours (Like Skyrim), but they both receive the same score. Did any of the mechanics really change that much in both games? Did waiting five years make Skyrim better, but having annual releases come out for COD also make the experience much better? It really does not make sense.

I personally think yearly releases are good- after all, it doesn't take two years to beat a game- you are done in a month. Harry potter movies came out yearly, but everyone loved that.

Nightmare8767
11-15-2011, 06:37 AM
My humble opinion? This game is all right. Completely well done. The history starts being somehwta boring, and then, bam, escalates. I can't complain much on History elements, they were all done nicely. Maybe a few more missions per sequence would have been better, though.

I'm someone who'll play Multiplayer a lot. And by a lot, I mean the coming 3 months.

However, I'm disappointed on one single aspect: Secondary stuff. A few characters don't have Database entries, Ishak Pasha memories are just collectible -- the Romulus Scrolls had actual information, I loved them because of that. I'd seriously consider patching (yes, you've read right) a good amount of text to be unlocked once all ten pages are collected, seriously; and missions, well... Bomb missions could have been better/longer. Tutorials already exists, so having those super easy missions is not a good step. Master Assassin missions are alright, those are a step in the right direction, Ubisoft. However, there's not much more to do as Ezio. Guys, a free DLC should be created when time/ACIII developement allows so, adding a fe more single player side missions, because that's what the game is lacking. This and the incapacity to go back to Cappadocia and MAsyaf (unless I'm missing something else besides DNA memory).

I have mixed feelings. I would give the game a 7, can'0t give something like 9.5 because of what I've listed. Damn, I'd have given a 10 if everything I've put in was present.

Animuses
11-15-2011, 06:57 AM
IGN doesn't know how to review games. They made it seem the only reason they gave the game an 8.5 was because of the Den Defense. That really isn't a reason to drop the score 1.5 points. The score isn't the problem, they just need to elaborate on why they are giving the game this score. People want a good review and they hardly deliver in that department.

luckyto
11-15-2011, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Animuses:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shobhit7777777:
Please do not make the comparisons between ACR and other franchises like UC and COD. The latter franchises have seen a steady and evolutionary development with each successive game. No they haven't. CoD has hardly changed since CoD4 and the only thing UC2 added from UC were a few stealth moves and a crap load of action. UC2 even took out UC's combos in melee. I don't know about UC3, but it only looks like it added quick time(I think that's what it's called) melee which is still not better than UC's melee.

I do completely agree with what you said about AC though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to agree with Animuses. COD releases have been nothing more than adding a new skin. The critics have given it a pass, and like many have pointed out, it's not fair that it gets a pass when AC doesn't.

But in the end, the free pass doesn't help the COD franchise. Just go to MetaCritic and look at the user reviews. They are dismal. Consumers aren't being fooled, and in the end, Activision will destroy their franchise if they don't pay attention.



Originally posted by Chronomancy:


A true AC fan gives Ubisoft praise when it's needed and negative feedback when it's called for.

Amen and Hallelujah!


Originally posted by woowu:

I'm not a hater of the franchise, since I still own ALL the AC games, but I do what I must in voicing my opinion when I see no progress at all regarding this series.

We should not be pleased with more of the same, and we should ask for a longer development time for the upcoming games to be stellar.

Comparisons between this game and MW3 or other yearly releases aren't doing it justice either and are dragging it further down. Instead we should compare it to great games and their mechanics to see what can be done. RDR, Batman AC and Skyrim come to mind...

Very well said.


Originally posted by shobhit777777:

I said "evolution" not change. The games retain the core mechanics, add more it them and design the game around. They address the issues in previous games and add in a logical progression.

Whereas AC has been stuffed with mechanics not even remotely related to the core fantasy of being a Master Assassin.

There is no development in the pillars of the gameplay...just fluff added to make the game look "cool"

See. That's why I think AC2 was such an improvement. They really focused on fixing their deficiencies, expanding the gameplay and fine-tuning the mechanics.

For example, they added notoriety. A useful and intelligent complement to an Assassin game. They kept combo attacks but tweaked timing between weapons and added visual cues to let you know when you did it right. They improved the populace and added bigger and wider variety of maps. In Brotherhood, chain-killing seems like a natural extension of the existing combat system.

On the whole, the new mechanics complemented the existing ones and added more layers of complexity. They improved presentation of the story through better cinematics and voice-acting. That's why AC2 is such a great leap.

But with ACB, we started getting little things like leveling up Assassins through a point-click-wait game, and much more linear sequences, and war machine mini-games. And now, we have a tower defense game and bombs. Not only that, you are loaded to the hilt with offensive power --- you are so powerful that they could probably throw every single guard in the entire map at you at once and you'd not even blink.

We are moving farther and farther away from the art of an Assassin. A lone man in a strange place with single target... outnumbered and outgunned with only his blades, wits, the environment and skills to help him meet his challenge.

And as gamers, we are getting smaller and smaller areas to roam. (Or a single big map) Less and less story. And more and more controlled gameplay.


Originally posted by Animuses:

That's one of the few problems along with annual releases. Brotherhood was given too much positive feedback while it should've been criticized a lot more.

After reading these, my impression is that critics gave a Brotherhood a free pass and giving Revelations the benefit of the doubt, but this is the last chance they intend to give. If AC3 doesn't deliver, they will knock it hard. That's just me reading between the lines.


Originally posted by woowu:

Unlike some "fans" here, I can bad-mouth this game and still have tons of fun with it when it will arrive. It's just that after being spoiled with great gameplay systems in other games, this will just feel like the annual AC release with more of the same, and I'm kinda dissapointed in that.

Me too. I'll still love it, but I'll hope for better. I can't wait to play... today is the day. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jexx21
11-15-2011, 08:49 AM
I don't get why a lot of reviews are calling it the best Assassin's Creed, but then continue to go and rate it lower.

Meh, the only thing that really matters is what the player thinks about the game. And I have a slight feeling that the game will be praised more by the PC reviewers since the KB+M works better with something like Den Defense and the Bombs, since in those instances there will probably be less clunky controls.

But I do hope that AC3 has a better experience that will result in better reviews. Hopefully AC3 is the Batman: Arkham City of Assassin's Creed.

Still, I have a feeling that I'll enjoy ACR the most out of the Assassin's Creeds. I can't wait to be all stealthy and diversionary using the bombs. Just 14 more days.