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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 01:12 AM
Which one is the fastest? I read two different accounts and Once source says the g-10 was faster than the K. I always thought the K was the ultimate 109

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 01:12 AM
Which one is the fastest? I read two different accounts and Once source says the g-10 was faster than the K. I always thought the K was the ultimate 109

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 01:18 AM
The K4 should be faster, but in the game. It doesn't matter to much. The G-10 seems to be a little more nimble.

I always picked the K4 because you can trim the rudder. This is a bug that will probably be fixed in the patch.

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 01:18 AM
K it is the ultimate 109, but from what I heard the G-10 was the gastest 109... or the fastest G... Anyway k Is more Uber but It's not like a n00b plane, It's quite chaleneing to fly it corectly..., but Who knows,it's just my experience, I may be wrong...

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 01:47 AM
K-4 is uber, in that any dork can just point nose down, get down to deck and escape from every mistake he made in the engagement, as long as he's just about smart enough to time his 'extension' right.

If the problematic deck speeds are corrected, then it'd be some more challenge to fly.





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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:01 AM
kweassa wrote:
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- K-4 is uber, in that any dork can just point nose
- down, get down to deck and escape from every mistake
- he made in the engagement, as long as he's just
- about smart enough to time his 'extension' right.
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It should be fast in a dive. What is wrong with that?

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:03 AM
He was talking about the climb Mike. Nothing can stay with it, so it's a no brainer to stay alive.

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:07 AM
Read his post buzz, he says point the nose down.....

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:08 AM
You took it out of context Mike. Read the whole thing again.

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:13 AM
Whatever. It still sounds to me he is talking about vertical extension downward. Im not here to argue with you. Im just sick of everyone knocking the K-4. Nobody complains that VVS aircraft never overheat. I flew the la 5-fn and had it full boost for over 5 minutes. No overheat. A k-4 engine would be a smoking.

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:18 AM
The K-4 is faster, but the G-10 has the Mk-108 ammo counter /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
and the speed of the K-4 is not more than 20kmph faster than the G-10 in a level flight.
Forgot to say that I'm a G-10 fan /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Another question, sorry to hijack ur topic, but this got me curious : I was observing the G-14 chassi, and it looks very much alike the K-4 chassi, but it looks different from the G-10 chassi. The mais diference are those "cushions" in the wings, present in the G-14 and K-4, but not in the G-10

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:23 AM
k4 isnt the noob 109. it cant turn AT all. so any average pilot gets ripped to shreds if they fly it. noobs should fly the G6AS. its much easier to fly. just because a plane has superior climb and dive extension does NOT mean most people can use it that way. you have to know the exact prop pitches and when to change them at what exact speeds to get the most out of the k4s advantages. and what not to do in one.a much safer plane for a noob would be a la7 yak3 hurricane or g6as. the k4 is a precision scalpel that only pros know how to use correctly. stick a noob in a k4 and he wont get any kills and wont be able to outrun anyone. a noob will get the k4 going so fast he cant turn it at all and others will dive in on him and get an easy kill on a non jinking plane. k4 is NOT for noobs. unless they just take it up to 9000 meters and never ever engage. once they do engage their toast.

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:25 AM
Mike,

I can't believe you don't see he was talking about the entending, and climb away as the uber part. Any plane can dive.

As for the La's not overheating. They didn't in RL. You could use boost for 10 minutes. You can do it in the K4 too, if you use 103% throttle. You won't be doin either after the patch though. Your K4 has lost 45 km/h top speed.

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:28 AM
I can't believe you, buzz. Aircraft gain speed at different rates in a dive. Whats your problem tonight? Why you raggin?

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:33 AM
LOL. You think i'm ragging on you? I'm just trying to help you understand what he said. He's the one ragging on you. Why are you so protective of the K4. It's probably the best plane in the game if it's flown right.

If you want some fist class ragging. Come to the new PL where i'm not so careful what I say../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 02:33 AM
FiNaZZi wrote:


Ok FiNaZZi ... I take the bait ... WTH is with that Goat head-dress thingie???

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 04:11 AM
BF 109s are the most n00b planes in the game .... most who fly them BnZ with them & all you have to do is climb & you will live .... its a no brainer plane .... E fighting on the other hand is different nd the BF 109 F4 is the best E fighter in the game

the G-14 is a better turner than the G-10 or K4

K4 climbs the best

G6/AS has a super tuff motor ( for a Bf 109 ) and can stand a lot of overheating ( compared to other BFs )

G6/AS seems to me to be a little more stable for shooting over G 10 , 14 or K4

Dive speed & climb are too good for K4 in FB v1.0

XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 04:35 AM
Sounds to me like kweassa is saying horizontal extension.

kweassa wrote:
- If the problematic deck speeds are corrected, then
- it'd be some more challenge to fly.

Seems to me kwesassa's complaining about the top speed of the K4 (which would be more in line w/ the topic) had kweassa been concerned w/ vertical extension why would she care about the 109's speed on the deck? If you nose down the K4 and gun it you can extend from almost anyone w/o ever having to climb. (Assuming you're @ co-E when you start)




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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 04:55 AM
bad sight it takes an ace in a 109 to make it look like a noob plane. put a noob in a 109 and itll look like the hardest plane in the world to win in. your logic is flawed. an LA7 can match the 109 in b and z battles for the most part but you dont have to touch prop pitch at all. noob in LA7 = half a chance to win. noob in 109 = dead meat. your obviously not happy about b and z tactics and should just say that. its ok to admit it badsight. its ooook. 109s are not easy to fly well badsight.not when compared to all the vvs and hurricanes. the only plane harder to fly than a 109 is the fw190 for godsakes. REALITY CHECK time!

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 05:30 AM
RedDeth wrote:
the only plane harder
- to fly than a 109 is the fw190 for godsakes. REALITY
- CHECK time!

Lets not forget the P39. Anyone who can do well in that or the P47 deserves alot of respect in my book.

XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 05:31 AM
Pfft ..... i find it easy to dive then climb then dive then climb..........

any n00b can do it & eventually he will get hits in

the best climber = K4 = n00b

XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 06:15 AM
Ah there is more to it than that and you know it. Using the word noob is old for god sake are the 109s the NOOB plane of the week. Pretty soon we will be back on the Hurricane.


WUAF_Badsight wrote:
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- Pfft ..... i find it easy to dive then climb then
- dive then climb..........
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- any n00b can do it & eventually he will get hits in
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- the best climber = K4 = n00b
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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 06:18 AM
Hurricane? You mean that noob plane?

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 06:24 AM
Yeah lets start it all over again. Ok since its a new week.. I declare the Hurricane as the Noob plane of the week. Wait patch is out this week so maybe it will be the p40. Those .50 cals sure hit harder it seems and that plane can turn so it may be a contender.

XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 10:59 AM
kweassa wrote:
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- K-4 is uber, in that any dork can just point nose
- down, get down to deck and escape from every mistake
- he made in the engagement, as long as he's just
- about smart enough to time his 'extension' right.
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- If the problematic deck speeds are corrected, then
- it'd be some more challenge to fly.
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