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rick_475
12-20-2003, 11:17 AM
You're alone, and you need to get to your next waypoint in a russian plane. How do you determinate the vector for your next waypoint?

Thanks

rick_475
12-20-2003, 11:17 AM
You're alone, and you need to get to your next waypoint in a russian plane. How do you determinate the vector for your next waypoint?

Thanks

Tully__
12-20-2003, 11:19 AM
As the compass is hidden by the gunsight in most Russian planes, you're pretty much dependant on the speedbar (red numbers in the bottom left corner of the screen). You can assign a key to toggle it on/off as required if you don't like having it up all the time.

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Aardvark892
12-20-2003, 11:32 AM
I'd also like to know how the waypoint indicator in some aircraft (like the BF109 series, He111, and the IL2)work. How does it know to start pointing at the next one when you've just crossed over one? What kind of transmitter/receiver is it? Can you change waypoints forward or back without having to give the "next waypoint" command to your wingmen?

rick_475
12-20-2003, 11:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
As the compass is hidden by the gunsight in most Russian planes, you're pretty much dependant on the speedbar (red numbers in the bottom left corner of the screen). You can assign a key to toggle it on/off as required if you don't like having it up all the time.
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Thanks for your comment Tully, but it doesn't help me! I understand that if you ask the home base vector (tab 8-2) you can navigate easily to your home base with HDG. But how to determinate your next waypoint to the bombing area when you're alone?

Kneenibbler
12-20-2003, 11:51 AM
I believe the waypoint indicator on the Russian planes looks like a top 3rd of a circle with a 0 (zero) at the top. It's the only number on the guage which should make it easy to pickup when you look at the pannel. When you facing the waypoint the indicator should point directly at the "0". As you move away it needle veers left or right eventually burying itslef on either side as you fly more then 45 degrees off course.

Of course I could be wrong on the actual degree measurement. Also it won't read correctly unless you're flying level (at least my experience).

Tully__
12-20-2003, 11:55 AM
If you have map waypoints on in difficulty, just point your plane icon on the map at the next waypoint and go.

If you don't have the map icons on, you need to keep track of where you are at all times, navigating by comparing the details on the map to roads, rivers and towns you can see from your aircraft. Then in the event that you do get disoriented in a fight, you have some idea where to start map reading once you're clear.

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rick_475
12-20-2003, 12:00 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kneenibbler:
I believe the waypoint indicator on the Russian planes looks like a top 3rd of a circle with a 0 at the top. When you facing the waypoint the indicator should point directly at the "0" as you move away it needle vers left or right eventually burying itslef on either side as you move greater then 45 degrees off course.
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That gauge is hidden on most plane of the Russian planes, so you have to rely on HDG and I started this post to find out how to use it properly to navigate to the next waypoint. As I said, it's easy to use HDG and find out where is your home base. But when you're lost after a dogfight and you still want to drop your bombs on the target with your Il2, you need to know on what vector is the target area ... Is it possible to determinate the target's vector on the briefing map? How do you find your way to the next waypoint with HDG?

rick_475
12-20-2003, 12:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
If you don't have the map icons on, you need to keep track of where you are at all times, navigating by comparing the details on the map to roads, rivers and towns you can see from your aircraft. Then in the event that you do get disoriented in a fight, you have some idea where to start map reading once you're clear.
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Ok, so in order to get to your next waypoint you have to rely on cities, rivers, roads etc... and HDG is pretty much useless!? What's HDG anyway? (0 = East? 90 = North? ...)

JZG_Winter
12-20-2003, 02:09 PM
0 is north, 90 east...etc etc.

top of the map is always north (vector 0)

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ZG77_Lignite
12-20-2003, 02:54 PM
Rick, also note that radio messages giving vectoring information (heading 180 for example) may be for different aircraft (not for you), may be incorrect (for you) and you may not recieve them in a timely manner.

So be careful on trusting them (though they are slightly better than useless, imho) and do as Tully said, dead reckon your location using landmarks, flight times/speeds, and alwayse keep in mind your destination/target/objective.

rick_475
12-20-2003, 04:40 PM
Thanks for your help guys! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif