PDA

View Full Version : How do you sharpen your FB skills?



Kuna_
02-10-2006, 07:23 PM
Me personally I like QMB, helps me a lot in gunnery dept. particularly.

My preffered matchup since v403 is
- F6F-3 (f50%) vs. ACE Ai 4xA6M5 (f50%)
- Okinawa, no advantage, 1000m.
- 'realistic' settings

Really ToUGH deal. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Hellcat stability is now better, and not to mention benefits of unsynchronised .50cal. I am really enjoying myself...

danjama
02-10-2006, 07:33 PM
making pictures like this gives me a steadier hand and a better shot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/danjama/SpitfireSummerfinal4.jpg

Gold_Monkey
02-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Cool Pic Danjama, Nice.

danjama
02-10-2006, 10:01 PM
thanks guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

bump for real thread

p1ngu666
02-10-2006, 10:10 PM
for bomber gunner practise id used to join 334th, afj style games, and fly me bomber. u simply get so much trade, and often none to smart too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

if im practacing, or trying to figure out gunnery then ill do a quick mission with 4 big bombers, then 4 meduim sized aircraft, then 4 small.

i made simple missions for learning howto bomb with various aircraft, just straight to the action, with just bombin in the mission

TC_Stele
02-10-2006, 10:11 PM
Practice practice practice. Not much I can add, and maybe someone can further explain, but thats how I got it. Mostly online in the "arcade" (cockpit off) servers help me out first before going into the realistic servers.

Nice picture there!

Prop_Strike
02-10-2006, 10:13 PM
I find drinking a few glasses of vodka or bourbon really helps before going on-line.
I seem to do better, and of course it helps to dull the pain of a firey crash from 10000 ft.
Of course my wingman has a hard time understanding my calls...."brake le(Burrrrrp)....no ri(burrrrrp).....is you taht....on fire....(burrrrrp)..sooorry"

P.S.. I do not condone the drinking of alchohol before flying, especially to kids under 12....but I'm old and lonely, and it's the only way I get through the day...OK?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

VW-IceFire
02-10-2006, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Prop_Strike:
I find drinking a few glasses of vodka or bourbon really helps before going on-line.
I seem to do better, and of course it helps to dull the pain of a firey crash from 10000 ft.
Of course my wingman has a hard time understanding my calls...."brake le(Burrrrrp)....no ri(burrrrrp).....is you taht....on fire....(burrrrrp)..sooorry"

P.S.. I do not condone the drinking of alchohol before flying, especially to kids under 12....but I'm old and lonely, and it's the only way I get through the day...OK?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Although I've never tried it myself...this seems to work quite well actually. Sometimes the guys I'm flying with are fairly well off for the night with their beer or whatever...and they seem to do just fine if not better than fine.

Air combat and simulated air combat is a odd sort of thing.

Badsight.
02-10-2006, 10:33 PM
time in the game

but . . . .

not just flying around , but time spent being engaged by an opponent

FB is a slow game , the action isnt fast paced - well not fast like different video games can get , the slow speed that fights happen at give you time to plot & think

i know Kuna is a player that can defend himself , & generally the more experienced you get the eaiser it is to see how an encounter is going

you can "see" where your gaining or losing to your opponent

the fast & furious action of close base arcade setting servers give a higher amount of "quality" time than the dot hunting locked pit servers

but knowing your plane & how to manouver at the edge is only a part of winning DF's

kills are made by direct hits alone , & nothing else . people who are good shots get more success , more quickly

Jetbuff
02-10-2006, 11:19 PM
I usually set up a 16 vs 16 furball and pick off easy prey. It helps with the gunnery without teaching me bad target-fixation/AI-gaming habits.

p-11.cAce
02-10-2006, 11:59 PM
step 1. Go to difficulty
step 2. turn every switch on
step 3. commit to an a/c type and fly the **** out of it.
step 4. go online and get shot down a lot
step 5. When you figure out the next step let me know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WTE_Ibis
02-11-2006, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by p-11.cAce:
step 1. Go to difficulty
step 2. turn every switch on
step 3. commit to an a/c type and fly the **** out of it.
step 4. go online and get shot down a lot
step 5. When you figure out the next step let me know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
-----------------------------------------------

Thats easy, next step is: repeat over and over and over. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

.

carguy_
02-11-2006, 05:01 AM
QMB
Spit vs FW190 then switch
Me109 vs Spit then switch
P51 vs Spit then switch
P47 vs Me109 then switch

Brain32
02-11-2006, 05:06 AM
QMB
Spit vs FW190 then switch
Me109 vs Spit then switch
P51 vs Spit then switch
P47 vs Me109 then switch
Same here, with adition of:
Tempest vs 190
Tempest vs 109

SeaFireLIV
02-11-2006, 06:17 AM
Offline flying in long campaigns.

Tooz_69GIAP
02-11-2006, 06:28 AM
If I'm trying to learn a particular aircraft, I'll set up a QMB against a bunch of it's more likely opponents, and do that in various combinations (low alt, high alt, different opponents, different AI settings) until I'm confident I can fly it with screwing up.

For ground pounding, I'll go online and find a target heavy server, or jump into one of the online wars, and pound away, trying to not get shot in the process.

T_O_A_D
02-11-2006, 06:41 AM
I fire up my Target practice coops (http://toad.war-clouds.net/il2missions/Coop/T_O_A_Ds_Target_Practice.exe) They are resource intensive. I play them by myself, occasionaly I'll let in one online pilot. They reall work your machine out hard. But all the AI are set to enemy veteran, no ammo.

I usually fly it with Icons off.

Only problem is I need to adjust them again. This last patch has made some of the enemy flyable again.

jds1978
02-11-2006, 08:31 AM
fly full switch/no externals/no icons

give the opponent the advantage

try to survive

go online and forget everything you just learned

rnzoli
02-11-2006, 08:31 AM
What's skills? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So far I haven't found any trace of 'skills' in my flying. So there's nothing to sharpen, and that makes me quite happy online & offline too.

Oh, yes, I forgot. I do practice something. Hitting Ctrl-E.

But it does not always work, looks like my virtual pilot is unable to leave the aircraft sometimes, like fast rolls, dive, etc. If anyone knows a sure way to bail, let me know! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

jds1978
02-11-2006, 08:33 AM
Me personally I like QMB, helps me a lot in gunnery dept. particularly.

My preffered matchup since v403 is
- F6F-3 (f50%) vs. ACE Ai 4xA6M5 (f50%)
- Okinawa, no advantage, 1000m.
- 'realistic' settings

Really ToUGH deal.



Hellcat stability is now better, and not to mention benefits of unsynchronised .50cal. I am really enjoying myself...

great maychup...F6F is tough and nimble

chertio
02-11-2006, 09:03 AM
Sign up with a group for regular training and combat missions with dedicated fliers... =JFC= at http://www.jfcmil.com/news.php f'rinstance.

SweetMonkeyLuv
02-11-2006, 10:50 AM
I've mostly only ever flown offline campaigns in full switch, and usually do quite well. Just recently, tho, I've started to try my hand on some of the online servers (mainly War Clouds). So far, I seem to be holding my own once I'm actually engaged in a fight. My biggest problem is that I've learned I really suck badly at "dot hunting". In the offline campaigns, you pretty much always get help from wingmates with radio calls on sighting bandits, and I guess I'm just not used to spotting the specks out there from long range.

Any suggestions on how I can work on this? I haven't really tried it, but QMB doesn't sound like it would be much help in this regard.

jds1978
02-11-2006, 11:25 AM
Any suggestions on how I can work on this? I haven't really tried it, but QMB doesn't sound like it would be much help in this regard.

It won't...and i'm in your shoes in regards to the "new to the online experience"

it all comes down to set and setting...if you are stuck on TS with nimrods who are more interested in telling bad jokes than helping you spot bandits than it sux big time. however, the full real (or near full real) servers seem to only have a handfull of these peeps. consider it "survival of the fittest". chances are that they will get bored and go fly arcade servers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Treetop64
02-11-2006, 11:49 AM
How to sharpen FB skills?

QM practice, QM practice, and more QM practice...

jds1978
02-11-2006, 02:25 PM
Chasing dots is relatively easy (if by that we consider identifying). Usually all players try to get alt and climb toward enemy so chances are that you will met head on in most cases. Enemy will rarely chase you if you are on your territory on decent alt and heading for enemy. But these are not strict rules of course. Always aware...

As per usual, Kuna makes sense while i blather (LOL)

Dot ID: 1) observe their flight characteristics...what is their heading? are they over your turf and changing course repeatedly? Is there any shooting going on?

2) Get on Comms and ask (or type) "Are there any friendlies over map grid X/Y?"

3) In any case report suspicious behavior to your side (Bogey=unknown contact, Bandit=Positively ID'd Enemy)

4) When in doubt, check him out (but don't give up too much altitude in the process). Don't rush down to the deck from 15,000 ft to chase one Unknown Contact....report the contact and someone closer will take care of the rest. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kuna_
02-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Oh no jds, your remark of the "bad joke dudes" is IMO correct. In my experience I have flew few times with TS and I gave up. My english is ok, I would sure make sense but with heavy foreign accent. TBH I never really spoke over TS I only listen.
At least 70-80% chatter has nothing to do with flying at all. Either hardware, women, soccer (among ‚"ö¨uro guys or football among U$ guys)... well you know usual pub drill. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But if we disregard blah blah on TS it actually can be put to a excellent tactical use.

SweetMonkeyLuv
02-11-2006, 03:24 PM
Once I actually SEE the dot, I'm ok. The problem is actually finding the buggers in the sky.

ATLAS_DEATH
02-11-2006, 04:09 PM
I noticed the 'dots' seems to be easier to see Online than offline... it seems I can stare in the enemies direction and not see anything.. then suddenly they are 4km away... the dots also seem smaller... Online I can scan around quickly and see a dot across the map... does this have something to do with resource available to control AI aircraft? Or is it to make online easier... is this even happening or am I seeing things..

Bearcat99
02-11-2006, 06:15 PM
For air to air I use the QMB.. I usually fly the same planes.. I prefer allied vs axis matchups.... Lately I have been trying to sharpen my full immersive sklills... which are a little lacking.. I usually fly with externals though. For air to ground I just go into a solo df server and attack the enemy bases.

Willey
02-11-2006, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p-11.cAce:
step 1. Go to difficulty
step 2. turn every switch on
step 3. commit to an a/c type and fly the **** out of it.
step 4. go online and get shot down a lot
step 5. When you figure out the next step let me know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
-----------------------------------------------

Thats easy, next step is: repeat over and over and over. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. I think it's "go to ORR and whine about the planes" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif