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VMF-214_Pappy
09-10-2007, 09:05 PM
What I think of x52 after 3 i bought and they all died in total of 9 months, horrible tech support, horrible hardware.

I just plugged in my brand new CH fighter stick and throttle let me tell you its night and day dont end up with this nightmare from saitek.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YA-dwEjosoM

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-10-2007, 09:08 PM
They got pills for that.

R_Target
09-10-2007, 09:09 PM
I grabbed an X-52 just for the throttle. I never liked their sticks. Too spongy.

Monterey13
09-10-2007, 09:37 PM
Too bad. I love mine.

VMF-214_Pappy
09-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Oh I love mine alright right down to the last smash.

skarden
09-11-2007, 05:18 AM
well i gotta admit that up until about a month ago my x-52 worked perfectly but then suddenly my thumb rotary( evevator trim) decided to just randomly punch its value up to max up then down to min then if it's feel friskier then normal up again whenever i go past the middle point (normally when i'm on someones 6 or,which is even better,when I'm landing) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

but!as their damm tricky to get my hands on in OZ i cant give it any attitude back So thank you pappy for satisfying an urge I'v had for about a month now as well as making me laugh my a$$ off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Cheers

Bearcat99
09-11-2007, 06:44 AM
http://www.theempire.com.au/images/2005-09-02/Thor%20Bowen%20Battle%20Armor%20Bust.jpg

Surely thou dost jest usurper!!!!

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-11-2007, 07:08 AM
Another happy CH customer... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TB

Divine-Wind
09-11-2007, 11:21 AM
I love my X52. Lots of buttons and rotaries, and you don't have to spend a quarter of your life's saving to get one. Hasn't fudged up once on me yet. Stick the throttle quad with the Sidewinder and it works like a dream.

If only more games supported more than one controller...

beefy1966
09-11-2007, 11:32 AM
hi pappy do you still have one of the cables that connects the throttle to the flightstick ? one of the ends got pulled out of the cable and i'm waiting on saitek sending me one , if you have a spare it might be a little faster getting it from you mate http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

triad773
09-11-2007, 11:55 AM
OK so is that an EX-X-52 now? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Sturm_Williger
09-11-2007, 11:55 AM
Although I've found Saitek support to be excellent, I still prefer the X45 to the X52.

The X45 is ergonomic to the nth degree, every button or switch is at your fingertip.
The X52 seems to be an effort to fit more buttons on the same stick with the result that almost everything is either fractionally out of reach so you have to move your hand to stretch for it, or it's too close, so you have to bend your finger.

Just my opinion, but I wish they'd kept the X45 available. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

knightflyte
09-11-2007, 11:56 AM
I'd have like to see some video shot from the neighbours window. You know.... that third person view point.

I imagine you looked a bit bonkers to them....LOL

But after three Saiteks and they still break down, I think I'd bust a move on my Saitek too. You showed support for Saitek by purchasing three.

Time to move on..... Helloooooooooooooooo CH.

Good choice I love mine CH.

At least now when I can get shot down on line my flying is smoother.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-11-2007, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by knightflyte:
I'd have like to see some video shot from the neighbours window. You know.... that third person view point.

I imagine you looked a bit bonkers to them....LOL

But after three Saiteks and they still break down, I think I'd bust a move on my Saitek too. You showed support for Saitek by purchasing three.

Time to move on..... Helloooooooooooooooo CH.

Good choice I love mine CH.

At least now when I can get shot down on line my flying is smoother.

Ive met his neighbors and trust me he fits in quite well. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

He got a video he made admiring his new CH hardware too. Once I figured out for him how to program a few buttons on fighterstick he was in love. All night on comms he kept bragging about it and how smooth and accurate it was. I actually had to talk him into buying the thing because he was set on buying yet another X52, lol.

S!

knightflyte
09-11-2007, 01:11 PM
A FOURTH?


Friends don't let friends buy Saitek. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif (at least after three)

faustnik
09-11-2007, 01:48 PM
Don't destroy that stuff!!!!!!!!!!!

You can use it to make custom controllers. Seal the old stuff in a bag and just put it in the shed or something. You might find a use for it down the road.

VMF-214_Pappy
09-11-2007, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Divine-Wind:
I love my X52. Lots of buttons and rotaries, and you don't have to spend a quarter of your life's saving to get one. Hasn't fudged up once on me yet. Stick the throttle quad with the Sidewinder and it works like a dream.

If only more games supported more than one controller...


Yet have you tried a CH after flying for 2 seconds i noticed it was 100 percent more accurate better throw, so many hat switch i got everything on stick and got some left over and its built like a brick #$%@ house.

Divine-Wind
09-11-2007, 02:46 PM
When I have a wallet big enough maybe I'll check out CH. Until then I will stick with the stuff I have. If it works, don't try to fix it.

F19_Orheim
09-11-2007, 02:48 PM
After CH I'll never look back at Saitek... the joysticks anyway... now the pedals is another story.. .

faustnik
09-11-2007, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
After CH I'll never look back at Saitek... the joysticks anyway... now the pedals is another story.. .

I switched from CH to Saitek pedals, and have to say that I like Saitek better. They look like they were made by Fisher-Price, but, they are heavier, wider and easier to for me to control than than the CH Pedals were.

VMF-214_Pappy
09-11-2007, 03:08 PM
It cost me 213 for the combo and free shipping at amazon.com now i will pay the extra to have it last and not deal with there service, hardware failures, i read revies owners using the CH in excess of 7 years and going strong. Now the x52 pro is 200 bucks yes it has twist rudder, but once u go pedals u will never go back.

Its a good investment for me since buying 3 x52's cost me the price of one CH setup or more in a 9 month period.

MrMojok
09-11-2007, 07:24 PM
I don't understand it.

I bought my X-52 in March of 2006. I don't play nearly as much as some of you guys do, but I've had no problems at all. Aside from the joystick spring getting kind of loose after a while, which I fixed with a five-cent rubber washer.

GAU-8
09-11-2007, 07:38 PM
i had a total of 3 X45's go kaput on me *ALL THREE had problems major ones within the first 3-5 months, and all went dead within 9.... as a last ditch effort i bought first gen X52..

been several years now, and still not a hiccup.

wish i could say the say for my CH rudder pedals. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

not knocking CH products of course. many swear by em... but i dont like the "my first sony" feel and operation to them. durable..yes. but it still doesnt mean it works RIGHT.

the saitek feels less durable. but i cant knock the X52..its been flaswless for me. many many hours of constant use. i love em.

VMF-214_Pappy
09-11-2007, 07:38 PM
Its not everyone but if u look at there forums there are tons of complaints and problems users face with hardly any response or timely responses and the flashing x52 syndrome some of us face they dont even address they just tell you to send it in or return it. vista drivers are still in beta form, long service repairs, its too lose and my first one i smashed a button failed in 2 months and went completely died soon after, some have no problems but a vast number do i cant give you a percentage but its more than most Hotas systems i researched on web. some get lucky and some just seem to run into problem after problem i read about cyborgs which i owned 2 of them which didnt last for **** having as many problems.

So if u got money spend it on a CH i suggest if your going budget i can understand the x52 i read is a joke 200 bucks for what a face lift and added spring that is worth 90 bucks more common. For the money u pay i expect more and longer lasting and better support.

Divine-Wind
09-11-2007, 07:53 PM
Where'd you get your X-52's? I found mine for $115 at Circuit City. Still works like a charm. I can't compare Saitek to CH, as I've never tried the latter out, though I do admit I prefer CH's looks to the ripped-from-an-X-Wing style of Saitek's gear.

Well, at least the Spitn00bs will feel like they're in the cockpit when they fly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Widowmaker214
09-11-2007, 08:12 PM
LOL that video was great. Thanks for posting it. And congrats on the upgrade!! Im sure you're going to enjoy your CH gear for a long time to come.
!S

Bearcat99
09-11-2007, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by GAU-8:
i had a total of 3 X45's go kaput on me *ALL THREE had problems major ones within the first 3-5 months, and all went dead within 9.... as a last ditch effort i bought first gen X52..

been several years now, and still not a hiccup.

wish i could say the say for my CH rudder pedals. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

not knocking CH products of course. many swear by em... but i dont like the "my first sony" feel and operation to them. durable..yes. but it still doesnt mean it works RIGHT.

the saitek feels less durable. but i cant knock the X52..its been flaswless for me. many many hours of constant use. I love em.

LMAO... just goes to show you... I have two X-45s... one in the box and my original one... that is 5 years old.. I got it on sale for $49.99 when FB came out... to be honest though I never used the stick as more than a button bay so I can't comment on it.. as far as joysticks go I am a diehard MSFFB2 guy. The best joystick ever made if you ask me... even if you dont use the full FFB gunshake & what not... the solenoids on a MSFFB stick are better than any spring could ever be. But I hear ya Pap... and in the end what really matters is... if you feel that you got the bang for the buck... or if you feel you got ripped off... then thats what counts. I have a set of CH pedals and I have to say.. they were great in the beginning.. but they started to spike on me... the Saitek pedals are just better all around... wider stance much smoother response...

I think if I were not in the position I am in with my modded X-45/MSFFB2 setup.. and a spare of each in the closet.. I would probably go with an X-52 Pro over the X-52... since it seems to me that a lot of the issues associated with the X-52 were addressed in the Pro. Having that twist rudder is not a bad deal... just because it is called a twist rudder doesn't mean you have to use it for twist rudder.

Waldo.Pepper
09-11-2007, 09:07 PM
This is why there is a free market. To accommodate the different opinions and experiences of consumers.

My experience, fwiw - I bought my X-52 new for $60-$70 (can't quite remember). Have had it 9 months now. Trouble free perfection. (knock wood). (I still have a pair of X-45's in their boxes that were perfect throughout the years I used them.)

I do think that the Ch products are a better quality, at the least they have a better reputation. However, no company is immune from making lemons, sometimes truck loads of them.

If Ch could match (or get close) to the Saitek price point I would give them a shot. In fact if I find a decent sale I think I will. I have no brand loyalty - merely a price point that needs to be met. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

All the best with your new Ch gear.

VMF-214_Pappy
09-11-2007, 09:44 PM
Ch website wants some 250 bucks for the setup i have found the combo on amazon for 213 with free shipping, so if u want to go CH go with amazon i am a prime member and got 1 day shipping for a small 10 dollar fee. 2 days in use and it is utterly wonderful, i have owned a sidewinder is was a amazing stick but no seperate throttle and i love having everything and my finger tips, i got so many hats i dont even use keyboard except for chat and engine start so i dont accidentally turn my motor off. The precision is night and day i use to fight the x52 on target, i am still getting use to this but so far my aim is far superior and i can hold it on target, i still aint quit use to using pedals which i owed last few months.

Yes i had a raw deal with saitek not everyone has, I just find too many having a raw deal and have never read one bad review on CH during my research and havoks. This should last me years and years and is reason why i spent the money to buy CH. My only complaint is i miss the sliders on throttle for trim, but u use the throttle wheel on the fighter stick itself now for elevator trim. It dont look as flashy but i dont care for leds and MFD's more to go wrong, its built very strong and dont move on my desk at all with press, its rubber pads are superior IMO to the suction cups on saitek that get dirty and slide around, best the throttle slides forward and back smoothly my saitek with its curved motion tended to feel little sticky and times and the saitek stick it self would feel creeky not with the CH. Right now i am happier than a tornado in a trailer park with CH hotas.

Ken-Ghost-King
09-11-2007, 09:51 PM
To bad you didn't look HERE (http://www.provantage.com/ch%7E110CHPU.htm) Pappy

But, you at least will have a long and happy simming life. Welcome to the CH Family!

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-11-2007, 10:15 PM
If Ch could match (or get close) to the Saitek price point I would give them a shot. In fact if I find a decent sale I think I will. I have no brand loyalty - merely a price point that needs to be met. Smile

Well they do match it very well as the newer X-52Pro is priced around 200 bucks and the CH Hotas is priced around 200 bucks. When we initially got our X-52s they were going for about 150 or so. I still dont understand why Saitek thinks the Pro warrants such a market with its pretty much the same stick. My bud got the Pro and I had a chance to use it for about a month when his PC went down and other then the color and a few tweaks it virtually the same.

S!

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-11-2007, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Ken-Ghost-King:
To bad you didn't look HERE (http://www.provantage.com/ch%7E110CHPU.htm) Pappy

But, you at least will have a long and happy simming life. Welcome to the CH Family!

213 for the combo with shipping. I think he paid that exact price from Amazon with free shipping. I already own the CH pedals and look forward to extending my little family. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

Waldo.Pepper
09-11-2007, 10:30 PM
My only complaint is i miss the sliders on throttle for trim,

Gee Pappy - don't suffer ... you've clearly got a hammer. I presume some other tools as well. Make a trim box with some rotaries and such. Won't be on the throttle though.

http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/

Ken-Ghost-King
09-11-2007, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My only complaint is i miss the sliders on throttle for trim,

Gee Pappy - don't suffer ... you've clearly got a hammer. I presume some other tools as well. Make a trim box with some rotaries and such. Won't be on the throttle though.

http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/531Ghost/FrankenPotato.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TX-Gunslinger
09-11-2007, 11:02 PM
I bought an X-45 to use about 15 months ago as a second stick, to take with me on travel. They are lightweight and have enough hat's and switches to at least replicate 1/2 of my normal flight sticks functions.

I could never get used to it - just was not for me. I eventually gave it to my brother as he was just getting in to Il2.

After about four months of use by him (few hours a week use), the X axis in the joystick went. No matter what we did - it did not work.

Even after that experience I bought a new pair of Saitek rudder pedals about six months ago, thinking to replace my CH pedals which I've had for over 5 years. The Saitek are wider, more like a real rudder pedals - and have adjustments for tension and foot size.

Guess what? After about 30 days of use the mechanism jammed in full left rudder, and would not unstick itself. I opened the case and unjammed it, then put it back together. After about 15 minutes of flying, they jammed again.

Had enough. What a waste of change. My CH pedals are attached to my Cougar again and that's where they will stay. On the other hand - maybe as some have suggested - if I get the time - might go ahead and cannibalize the parts to make a controller.

Good riddance Pappy. I understand.

S~ and Good Luck

Gunny

josephs1959
09-12-2007, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by skarden:
well i gotta admit that up until about a month ago my x-52 worked perfectly but then suddenly my thumb rotary( evevator trim) decided to just randomly punch its value up to max up then down to min then if it's feel friskier then normal up again whenever i go past the middle point (normally when i'm on someones 6 or,which is even better,when I'm landing) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif That's exactly the same thing that happened to mine skarden. Before you throw your's out the window or spend money on another stick.I unassembled my throttle, cleaned the contacts and blasted compressed air into the works she's fine now. I've had my X-52 for over two 2 1/2 years now, no problems. you will need a phillip head screwdriver. One thing though, BE VERY CAREFUL with the screws that you take out,and remember where they came from step by step they may look the same from the top view of the screw themsleves while you're unscrewing them.But there are FOUR different lengths to them. Which means they are to be returned to specific holes.(NO JOKES) 1) The outer casing screws x4 located at the coners looking at the bottom of the throttle bottomplate. 2) Then the 2x screws in the center of the bottomplate.3)the screws x2 that hold the tension knob to the throttle located next to the tension knob itself.4) Remove the bottomplate there are no wires that are attached to the bottomplate 5)Looking inside, Then the screws that hold the entire throttle bearing assembly 6)The throttle bearing screws that actually hold the bearing cups into place. There are two on each end of each bearing.The bearings are WHITE PLASTIC C-CUPS similar to the piston bearings in a car's engine.7)Blast compressed air into everything, Clean as necessary for yours. Replace the screws, Now comes the necessity of seperating and remembering which screws came from which holes.Good luck! My elevator trim knob works fine again hope yours will too.

but!as their damm tricky to get my hands on in OZ i cant give it any attitude back So thank you pappy for satisfying an urge I'v had for about a month now as well as making me laugh my a$$ off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Cheers

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-12-2007, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Ken-Ghost-King:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My only complaint is i miss the sliders on throttle for trim,

Gee Pappy - don't suffer ... you've clearly got a hammer. I presume some other tools as well. Make a trim box with some rotaries and such. Won't be on the throttle though.

http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/531Ghost/FrankenPotato.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can this be purchased already done for you or do you have to mod it yourself? Im extremely interested.

S!

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-12-2007, 03:11 PM
Never mind. You can have them man himself mod one for you if you supply the throttle.

Okay gang, if I were to go into a limited production of the Franken-Potato, let's set some ground rules:

1. You supply the ProThrottle USB (I won't need your Throttle Quadrant)
2. You pay shipping to/from
3. Money Order will accompany the ProThrottle you send to do the mod/s
3. You understand the CHProducts warranty is NULL AND VOID
(However, it'll be all CH under the hood )
4. There isn't anything I can do about the base or handle mould, so the switches will NOT be completely formed to the base/handle.
5. Hat 1 buttons 6 and 8 are reversed. (in Control Manager GUI)
6. Each unit will be tested by me prior to shipment.
7. Each unit, depending on Revision 1,2 or 3 or any variation of them takes time to do.
8. Each Revision or variation will be priced accordingly.

Here's the prices:

Revision 1 (switches in the base only): $140.00
Revision 2 (switches + 1 rotary): $160.00
Revision 3 (switches + 2 rotaries): $180.00

Rotaries Only Both the Pinky and Index: $130.00
Pinky Rotary: $125.00
Index Rotary: $120.00


Shipping instructions:

Ship to:
Me (PM for my address)

http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2488&highlight=potato&page=4


S!

Ken-Ghost-King
09-12-2007, 03:50 PM
Some pretty old pix ya got there Havok http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-12-2007, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Ken-Ghost-King:
Some pretty old pix ya got there Havok http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Oops. I removed them, sorry about that. So the newer release looks cleaner? I got to have this mod when I get CH. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

Ken-Ghost-King
09-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Hat 1 moves left and button 2 moves aft. Rather than moving hat 1 aft. Looking forward to it. Allen, if you're reading this, I'm waiting for FedX to pick your Lefty F-P up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

skarden
09-12-2007, 04:12 PM
Thanks heaps there josephs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I'll grab some compressed air today and give that a crack today when i get home from work. hopefully I'll get a little love from my Ol' x-52 yet

Thanks again josephs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (best forum ever!)

faustnik
09-12-2007, 04:41 PM
Does anybody have this? http://www.chproducts.com/retail/mfp.html

JG52Uther
09-12-2007, 04:52 PM
I love your prices for CH in the States! $213 for the fighterstick & throttle LOL!
In the UK,the cheapest I can find the stick is 99,and 149 for the throttle.
Thats 248,or at the current exchange rate, $500 of your dollars http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
Oh and Saitek just sent me 2 new pots for my X45 for nothing,and its as good as new now.

JadehawkII
09-12-2007, 05:57 PM
Well I'm one of the few who has both products. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif
The CH is in it's box collecting dust at the moment. I'm using my X52 and it's been a complete joy to use with my system.
Now before you get your blood pressure up you CH fellas listen up. I actually like both products and yes the fighterstick is a nicer stick. I'll eventually use the CH stick when my X52 wears out....if it ever does and get the throttle setup then too!
The X52 works just as good as when I first bought it 2 1/2 years ago. So no complaints here.

knightflyte
09-12-2007, 06:18 PM
It's all a matter of personal preference. I wasn't satisfied with the accuracy of small movements on my Saitek (like when I set up shots upon an enemy). The stick would move more erratically than I'd have liked. So I bought a CH Products Fighterstick USB.


Best stick I've ever bought. Now instead of wondering if it's me and I suxxors, now I'm positive I suxxors. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Ken-Ghost-King
09-12-2007, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
Does anybody have this? http://www.chproducts.com/retail/mfp.html

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-12-2007, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Ken-Ghost-King:
...Allen, if you're reading this, I'm waiting for FedX to pick your Lefty F-P up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


WOOT! x 10.

My lefty Franken-Potato!....Muhahahahahaha. <happy-dance>

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-12-2007, 08:22 PM
Little update on my X52. Before I mentioned that the twist axis broke the second week I owned it. Well now the 4way hat on the throttle is going out. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

S!

VMF-214_Pappy
09-12-2007, 09:44 PM
Well i have never had a more smooth accurate stick than this CH setup, the MS sidewinder is a very close 2nd if not tied, but it lacks all the hats buttons and seperate throttle that i must have.

Some are happy with x52 and I am glad for you maybe u got lucky and we got lemons, but i am reading there is alot of lemons out there.

Not one CH guy I have read didnt like his product so it comes down can you afford it and pedals. Well everyone cant, i been flying il2 for almost 7 years and just now got one and stuck with track ir 2 for now and got saitek pedals which i feel are actually superior to the Ch pedals, one thing they have done right so far its been 3 months and they work and wider and adujustable. I just had to add velcron strips to bottom to keep them from sliding on the carpet.

StihlCanuck
09-12-2007, 10:02 PM
LOL,
Standard Drop Test...
"Let's add a little bit of THROWING to that..."

Awesome!!
SC

josephs1959
09-13-2007, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by skarden:
Thanks heaps there josephs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I'll grab some compressed air today and give that a crack today when i get home from work. hopefully I'll get a little love from my Ol' x-52 yet

Thanks again josephs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (best forum ever!) No Problem, anytime just hope it works for you.

GreyFox5
09-13-2007, 11:33 AM
Being a computer tech I'm willing to live with bad hardware. Have had an X52 for what 2 years and it had that whole die then have to unplug then replug it in thing. Built a new PC and that issue disappeared. Now the Joystick seems to lose connectivity so I have to unplug it then replug it in about once a week. Other than that it works fine. But I think the older Microsoft products are tighter. The old Microsoft stick I use gets more motion side to side than the X52. You get used to it just an observation.

Never tried the CH gear. Maybe I should try it.

Great vid man. I suggest a sledgehammer for quicker results http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have the Ergodex DX-1 that is the original to the CH version. Awesome and worth it if you want programmable buttons.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/GreyFox5/DSC00432.jpg

capt_frank
09-13-2007, 04:36 PM
I had a love hate relationship with my X52 almost from day one. I loved the throttle but grew to despise the stick, other than using it as a button bay. In that respect, it functioned ok.

Recently, the X52 met its end. Not as dramatic as the poster, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching it bounce through the air after being flung relentlessly on the floor in my office. The major casualty of this incident was my plastic carpet protector which broke in the process. So did the stick, but that was ok.

Nonetheless, I love my throttle.

VMF-214_Pappy
09-17-2007, 10:41 AM
Bump for those that have not seen it yet.

Friends dont let Friends buy Saitek.

RevvinUK
09-17-2007, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
Does anybody have this? http://www.chproducts.com/retail/mfp.html

Yes I have one. My current setup is this (apologies for the poor quality shots):

http://www.ch-hangar.com/SiteFiles/Images/il-2_controls.jpg

The MFP I have laid out like this:

http://www.ch-hangar.com/SiteFiles/Images/il-2_controls2.jpg

The MFP programmability far exceeds that of the Ergodex, it integrates into my current CH setup so no need for additional drivers or applications. I can program things like a map button that when pressed will open the map, move the mouse cursor to enable panning or zooming in/out and then when pressed again will close the map and move the cursor to the bottom right of the screen out of sight so its not a distraction. I adapted that for another user so as well as the above happening when pressed it also held down the mouse button to enable panning by using his Pro Throttle's ministick which was mapped as his mouse X and Y axis. Simple things but things that make flying just a little more enjoyable.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-17-2007, 07:50 PM
I excited to say that I just ordered my CH Hotas to compliment my CH pedals. So long Saitek! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

TheGozr
09-17-2007, 08:14 PM
Completely idiotic.. sorry man but that suck..

some Member here would of love to have a stick for free ..

Plz next time consult the guys around here ..

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by TheGozr:
Completely idiotic.. sorry man but that suck..

some Member here would of love to have a stick for free ..

Plz next time consult the guys around here ..

Stick was broke. Also its was his hard earned money that bought it. Perhaps spending 16 months in a combat zone makes it easy to have a break down.

S!

TheGozr
09-17-2007, 08:24 PM
yeap I IKnow this and spending time at a combat zone also teach you to keep everything in case of need ..

Sorry man but it suck.. that is only my take on that.
End.

BfHeFwMe
09-17-2007, 09:06 PM
Siatek, that's the Chinese word for ****, isn't it?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

R_Target
09-17-2007, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
Siatek, that's the Chinese word for ****, isn't it?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Sh1te-Tek. Except the throttle.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-17-2007, 10:07 PM
yeap I IKnow this and spending time at a combat zone also teach you to keep everything in case of need ..

Sorry man buts not even a relevant argument to attempt and try to make. Its just a piece of plastic and certainly spending so much time in combat you would learn to appreciate many things but I afraid game controllers is not one of them. I have good notion to smash mine up when my CH gear arrives, but wont be so kind too it.

BAG.LordDante
09-18-2007, 03:29 AM
after 5 years of constant abuse my x45 still works perfekt !
And when it comes to the rudderpedals ...
simpeds rule !

my 2cents

Worf101
09-18-2007, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If Ch could match (or get close) to the Saitek price point I would give them a shot. In fact if I find a decent sale I think I will. I have no brand loyalty - merely a price point that needs to be met. Smile

Well they do match it very well as the newer X-52Pro is priced around 200 bucks and the CH Hotas is priced around 200 bucks. When we initially got our X-52s they were going for about 150 or so. I still dont understand why Saitek thinks the Pro warrants such a market with its pretty much the same stick. My bud got the Pro and I had a chance to use it for about a month when his PC went down and other then the color and a few tweaks it virtually the same.

S! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny you mention this I subscribe to Computer Power User (CPU get it?) Magazine, the same folks that voted 1L2 1946 Game of the month last month. Well this month they gave the X-52 Pro 4.5 stars and the pedals 5 stars. In three years of buying that mag, the Saitek pedals are the first 5 star I've ever seen... But trust me, I'll take the word of you guys over some anonymous wag at a magazine any day.

Da Worfster

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-18-2007, 11:59 AM
I subscribe to CPU as well. Those guys know their pc guts, but they know jack about high-end flight-sim controllers...obviously. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

VMF-214_Pappy
09-18-2007, 01:59 PM
Gozr just like i said to you on youtube, know your facts before u call someone a idiot, that one i destoryed was totally dead my other one that flashes on and off is going to a squadmate,

2nd I reserve the right to destroy anything I own.

TheGozr
09-18-2007, 02:18 PM
Hey pappy I say that the act is idiotic never said YOU were an idiot.

Simple.. I do many idiotic things but i hope i'm not an idiot.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So don't place words in my mouth..

.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-18-2007, 02:21 PM
Well lets change the topic shall we. Gozr I just ordered FSX finally since i got a 2900XT on the way and I know your the FSX Guru around here, do you think you could help us out if we have any questions? I see you have a lot of info in your foums.

S!

TheGozr
09-18-2007, 02:32 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Yes

VMF-214_Pappy
09-18-2007, 06:55 PM
I am a FSX noob and having problems install CH53 properly i bought.

flaming_onion
09-18-2007, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_Pappy:
Gozr just like i said to you on youtube, know your facts before u call someone a idiot, that one i destoryed was totally dead my other one that flashes on and off is going to a squadmate,

2nd I reserve the right to destroy anything I own.


Yes, but you didn't see if it would blend. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif