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stugumby
05-04-2006, 08:56 AM
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thats what i call my pathetic attempts to master the bubble in the bombsight. as of now i cant hit minsk but im working on it, dont have any problems setting the sight, just overcompensationg with the bubble and inducing a spin etc trying to level the ever moving bubble. usually hit the town, not quite on target, and i tried shifting at the last minute about 1 square from target so i thelps. dammed thing is so simple im messing it up. So heres some pics of the pe-2.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/stugumby/oh.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/stugumby/sw.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/stugumby/ssliz.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/stugumby/pe2.jpg

actionhank1786
05-04-2006, 09:41 AM
I have the same problem.
But thank god for dive brakes!
My windscreen becomes my bombsite.
When the target is in front of me, i drop!
Gotta love Dive-bombing.

Tooz_69GIAP
05-04-2006, 10:06 AM
I'll tell ye a wee trick - find your target, i.e. a town, or something, a good distance away, line up on it, and then hit the level stabiliser!!! No more will you struggle to keep her straight and level! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

ElAurens
05-04-2006, 10:57 AM
Listen to Tooz, Level Stabilizer is your friend.

Be sure.


Did Pe2s ever carry torpedos?

Heavy_Metal1982
05-04-2006, 11:10 AM
What happens if you want to fly that online? The Level Stabilizer won't help you there... unless I've been missing something since I bought this game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Crash_Moses
05-04-2006, 11:16 AM
I use the level stabilizer online all the time in the PBJ. Don't confuse it with the auto-pilot...it's not.

S!

Tooz_69GIAP
05-04-2006, 01:22 PM
Go into your controls in game, and find Level Stabiliser (it's in the first section under Aircraft Controls). I don't remember if there is a default key, or if you have to assign it, but I use the "L" key for mine.

It can be a little confusing as there is Toggle Autopilot and Toggle Level Autopilot.

Firstly, what Toggle Autopilot does is when you jump from station to station (i.e. pilot to rear gunner) when you leave a station, the AI takes over that position. If you toggle this function, this means that when you jump to a station, the AI does NOT take over that station. So if playing offline, and you jump from the pilot position to a gunner, the you will still be in control of the aircraft, rather than the AI taking over for you as you man the guns.

Toggle Level Autopilot is similar but instead means that when you leave the pilot's station, and this function is active, the AI will fly straight and level, rather than what the AI thinks is the best flight path. At least, I think that's what it does.

Now, Level Stabiliser is used in either offline or online mode. Hit the Level Stab, and your aircraft will fly straight and level, assuming you have enough speed to keep it in the air. However, not all aircraft have this function available. The G4M1, B-25, He-111, Ju-88, TB-3 and the Pe-2 all have this function available. Also, for whatever reason, the Do-335 also has this function (although I haven't checked this in 4.05m).

A couple of pointers on using the level stab though. I don't know if the bugs have all been fixed for all the aircraft, but using level stab doesn't alays work great. You need to have your airspeed 300+kph(IAS), and trim up a little so your aircraft is a little nose high before engaging the level stab. Also, make sure to trim your rudder to keep you flying straight. You may have to trim periodically to maintain your course, so you will have to disengage the level stab for a couple of seconds to trim the rudder as it wont work with the level stab on.

Well, other than that, you should do fine using level stab on your bomb runs online with a little practice. And as I said, there may or may not be bugs still associated with the level stab. It is a little different for each aircraft, so just use a bit of practice.

Crash_Moses
05-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Great advice, Tooz! But I use rudder trim all the time with the LS active. I use it to stay on course (for those really long flights) and to line up on the target just before I drop 'em!

S!

Tooz_69GIAP
05-04-2006, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
Great advice, Tooz! But I use rudder trim all the time with the LS active. I use it to stay on course (for those really long flights) and to line up on the target just before I drop 'em!

S!

Yup, some aircraft allow you to trim while using the Level Stab, but some may not, like the TB-3 for example (actually, I'm not sure the TB-3 has rudder trim? It used to, but I haven't used it for a while). I forget exactly which ones work (possibly all of em) but just do some trial and erroring.

stugumby
05-05-2006, 07:35 AM
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yes yes the level stabilizer is indeed handy, but I do say I still have a terrible time transitioning from looking under my feet, and aligning on the part of town i need to find. Finding vehicles is whats bubblemaniang me. i see the city, spin/**** the sight up to max forward and drop to sight. then way overdue my alignment attempts, then engage level stabilizer and adjust with rudder trim. My problem is I induce these self wobbulating overcorrections before I think Im ready for level stabilizer. Kind of like a monkey with a football... But on a static target like an airfield etc I dont have too many errors. Once i acquire/line up then adjust keyhole over triangle im good enough for stabilizer.

Tooz_69GIAP
05-05-2006, 08:12 AM
You'll get it with practice. Try trimming your aircraft so that it is flying as straight and level as you can get it BEFORE engagin the level stab. Practice doing that, and then you will find it easier to make small course corrections using trim when on your bomb run.

Also, I would recommend to fly at 80% prop pitch and 80% power on your bomb run. This will slow you down a little, and so give you more time to line up, and keep your aircraft a little steadier. If you have all your power settings gunned this can make life a little more difficult when thinking about adjusting your site, and adjusting trim, and so on and so forth.

But again, just takes practice.

Maraz_5SA
05-05-2006, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:

Yup, some aircraft allow you to trim while using the Level Stab, but some may not, like the TB-3 for example (actually, I'm not sure the TB-3 has rudder trim? It used to, but I haven't used it for a while). I forget exactly which ones work (possibly all of em) but just do some trial and erroring.

For all aircraft that have rudder trim, it works also when Level Stabilizer is engaged

TB-3 has no rudder trim, you can use differential power on right and left engines to achieve the same results, though it's a bit trickier of course

The TB-3 used to have a rudder trim, but it got deleted with a patch

Maraz

Platypus_1.JaVA
05-06-2006, 12:22 AM
Having trim set to a slider on my X52 and Level stabilizer works wonders http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Ow, don't bother with the 'ball' too much. It is not the most important thing in the bombsight.