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Rodni7373
12-20-2006, 07:20 PM
I have been playing GWX since it came out. I have a great problem with escorts! THEY HAVE EXTRA EARS! I GO SLIENT, I SHUT THE ENGINES OFF I DIVE TO GREAT DEPTH...and they always find me inside the Convoy and depth charge the living hell out of my sub! It seem they sense my presence before the attack even if I am riged for silent running.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh gone are the good days when you can penetrate a convoy and torch ships left and right! In gwx and escort is right up your *** the moment you hit a ship! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

mastergas
12-20-2006, 08:04 PM
well i like its lot more of challenge no getting into a convoy and going nuts going nuts on the merchants and one thing bring your speed down to 2 knots thta always works most of the time and try to keep a small profile like keep s your stern or bow pointed to the escorts ither then that not much you can do

Rodni7373
12-20-2006, 08:17 PM
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

FRIGEN THE THIRD TIME TONIGHT!!!!!!!!

Interecepted a convoy right smak center. Dived to 50 feets engine off! waited for the merchant to get in range. rig for silent running and Periscope depth. Got to scope level peeked out for 2 second. Launched 2 eels on a whale ship.
scope down! boom boom she is going down! Took another peek 4 seconds pyro ship 2 eels at 1000 feet TII torpedoes. Up scope 5 seconds another pyro parallel. E 2eels! dived to 100 feet silent running.

Boom Boom! pyro ship down.
Dud http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif then Boom pyro ship down

Waited 5 minutes and I mean those merchants are blaring their engines...Black F************** swan right on top of me... depth charges in the water, again and again and again and again and again! sub lost! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !

I love GWX I hate GWX escort..................! THOSE Escorts are impossible! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Kaleun1961
12-20-2006, 08:22 PM
After you fired your torpedoes, did you lurk near the surface reloading, or did you go deep and quiet? What was the month and year of this encounter?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Rodni7373
12-20-2006, 08:25 PM
Hi!

No dived deep 100 meters and silent! no reload! jan 1940!

Man this is the third time tonight I get killed.
ocean depth 400 meters!

Kaleun1961
12-20-2006, 08:29 PM
Hmm. Don't know what to say. When I use the scope in daylight, I try to minimize the amount of the scope head above water and my speed when scoping, in order not to leave a visible wake. If your scope sticks up too far and for too long, it may be spotted. If you stay too long near your last spotted position, you're asking for trouble. Of course, this is all academic for me as I haven't been able to play GWX yet. I've had no luck getting it to go on my laptop, so my next step is to put it on my higher spec desktop.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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AVGWarhawk
12-21-2006, 01:02 PM
You have to remember that if you are stopped at scope depth, your sub will breach the surface, this was naturally occuring in the u-boats. You have to keep at least a 1-2 kts. Also, I believe some movement was added for sending out torpedos the bow will breach. Once that happens they can see you and run you down. Keep moving, send out all your torpedos and dive like hell. Go silent and exit at the back of the convoy.

Tactics you used before are totally useless with GWX. You now must run like the real u-boat did. I have had to change everything I did to something totally new. It is awesome!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

The last thing I heard as the British boarded my boat, "Boot hoch halten sonst wird keiner gerettet!"....Keep the boat afloat or no one will be rescued! My war was over....

Rodni7373
12-21-2006, 04:57 PM
You are right!

In GWX if you discharge 4 torpedoes from the forward compartment and you are stopped the bow will breach the surface!!!!!!!!!!!! I ran a few experiments..... Frigen most frightening....those GWX mod developers! This is why they spoted me!hmmmmmmmmmm gone are the days when you can torch ships in a convoy and reloads! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Rodni7373
12-21-2006, 06:59 PM
Third night in a row!

Intercepted a convoy. Only shot 4 torpedoes from silent running and sunk two ships. Right after launching the torpedoes there were no reloading. Dived to 160 meters. and exited from the back of the convoy.

A black swan circled around my sub for 65 nerve racking minutes. The circle was 600 meters around my ship alway keeping my sub centered. Engine on off at 2 knots and riged silent running did not shake him! tried every maneuver in the book he is just on top of me depth charging. After 65 minutes of taking this abuse
I stoped silent rinning and reloaded 3 t1 torpedoes. once readY went up to scope depth to put him out of his misery. eel one, two, three launched....! all misses him..... UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Surface the boat and dueled with him at 400 meters with deck gun.
hit him twice he hit me 8 times and it was over!

I do not know what it is, this is the same career loaded three times after I am dead! the same thing happen. Super escort that does not give up......
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FongFongFong
12-21-2006, 10:59 PM
(here) learning to watch their movements as they close in and try (just try) to sneak out.

Have noticed that they hear you better the deeper you are too.

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Michiel_88
12-22-2006, 05:22 AM
Escorts are indeed much stronger, even in sep '39 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

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stabiz
12-22-2006, 06:53 AM
Here is something to try out, its taken from the GWX Beta forum, and written by one of the devs:


In GWX it is not overly hard to fool an ASW ship. What most seem to forget is that you can install the Bold decoy launcher. Its there for a very good reason, saving your butt. Before anything else install the Bold decoy, dont worry about all the other fruit thats on offer, if you have the renown, get BOLD.

Next thing is all about how you approuch a convoy, you cant just lay in wait a let the convoy run over you an hope you wont be detected. Find the gap, watch the escorts and watch their sweeps. After a lil bit of observation you know how the escorts will sweep and you will see a gap, NOW go for it, get inside the escort screen. As soon as your in, select the BEST target thats on the FAR side of the convoy away from YOU. Take bearing, get fix, Shoot. Select the next furtherst best target from You, repeat. As soon as you have fired 2 torpedos per target - DIVE DEEP on the same heading as the convoy. Just before the torpedos impact - Deploy a BOLD. You now have around 2-5 seconds to do an All Ahead Standard speed burts. When the 5 seconds is reached helm over about 10? to the side you just hit of the convoy and go ahead slow rig for silent running. In that time period you should have reloaded 1 to 2 torpedos possibly. Dont Autoload any more.

Now the Escorts on the FAR side (where you aimed and hopefully hit the targets) will sweep OUT away from the convoy. The 1's on your side will have homed in on the BOLD. Your now sneaking over to the far side (the side you aimed at) and you should now slowly come back up to scope depth. You should now be clear. All the escorts should be distracted. Now do it all in reverse. Aim at the ships on the side you just left and do as above.

At the days end you should have sunk at least 4-5 ships and not been busted (usually).

Now IF on the other hand you do get detected, Go all ahead FLANK straight at the Escort at Scope depth. As the ship gets within 200-100m, Crashdive and as he passes over head Deploy BOLD, Helm Hard over (away from any other escorts) for around 4-5 seconds. Then return the helm to 0? and go silent. Maintain at least 2Knots. You should be in his baffles. As he turns to do a ASDIC sweep, KILL the engine and drift . You should be roughly 100m down, so your fine. Now with any luck the escort will HEAR the Decoy and think its you, if it fools him, believe it or not, he wont go with his ASDIC but rely on his hydrophones and attack the Decoy. As soon as he speeds up to attack the decoy go all ahead slow and slowly melt away.

madsarmy
12-23-2006, 12:32 AM
If it?s any consolation I?ve been stuck at 128metres(damaged) for over 10 hours now (real time) & they are still cr*pping all over me.
I hope they leave soon as I've nearly finished Iron Coffins.

edit:
Day has turned into night & back into day again. They have run out of depth charges but will they go away? No!
If I still had any periscopes intact & torpedos left I'd go & teach um a lesson.
So if anyone is around AM53 come & give me some support. I wanna go home.

edit2:
16th AUGUST 1941. ALL IS LOST. ATTACKED BY DESTROYERS. SINKING. U-524

Rodni7373
12-23-2006, 07:03 PM
Thank you so much for the advice!

Stabiz, you were correct! I changed my tactics and I am surviving!

Now instead of firing torp at 400 meters range on ships around me, I now intercept a convoy at
an angle. and shoot at a range of 1000 to 1200 meters across the convoy on the stern oposite side using t-2 torps only!

I scout the convoy first from scope level right before interception. On a piece of paper I draw the layout of the convoy and circle the tankers and big ships in it. I take bearing and heading and then scope down, silent running and I plot a course at 2 knots parallel to the doomed ships and launched my torps then dive to 150 meters, no reloads and exit from the side of the convoy. For example: - = ships; X = target; U= my sub! The ecort first charges the target hit by my stern torpedoes then react and charge in the other direction when the other two targets are hit by my forward torpedoes. Any ships hit twice and does not sink usualy loose speed and lag behind. I then wait untill the escort & the rest of the convoy are gone and come back like a great white shark to finish off the injured pray! Your tactics works and last patrol I was able to sink 72 thousand tons 48 to 50 tons of the sinking came from convoy attack!

Convoy direction ---------->

- x - - -
- - x - -
- - - - X <--- this target hit by stern torpedoes while the above targets hit by forward torp.
- - - - -
- - - u -
- - - - -

<---------Direction of my U boat

Thank you!
Respectful Bow
-U 105 Captain and crew!