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VV_Holdenb
02-19-2006, 10:07 AM
Hi

Following on from Jutocsa' UK buildings thread in ORR

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/1901092014

Here is my wish list of landmarks that
would like to see:

Landmarks on Isle of Wight:

Ventor radar station.
St Catherines and Needles lighthouses
The pepperpot and Hoys monument.
The white cliffs of Culver between Sandown and Bembridge point
Osbourne House (Cowes)
Nab Tower off Bembrige point.
Bembridge fort on Culver downs.
Shanklin, Ventor, Sandown and Ryde piers.
Old Railway line and stations including running
from Ryde to Ventor, Sandown to freshwater via Newport
and Newport to Cowes line. (can provide accurate references for)


Your turn: http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

SnapdLikeAMutha
02-19-2006, 10:13 AM
My old school. It would make for great target practice

major_setback
02-19-2006, 10:40 AM
Read this thread (above!):

Oleg needs help with modelling:

Posted by Jutosca:

"Thanks As a matter of fact, I have a list of buildings I have to model, well at least tghe first batch. These are mostly landmark buildings, no general buildings right now.

Edit: Indeed it would make it easier if I posted the list. So..this is what I need now. Mind you, this is not a complete list of all buildings that going to be modeled, this is only what i have now.

LONDON -
Westminster Abbey
Buckingham Palace
National Gallery
British Museum
Tower Bridge
Tower of London
Senate House (would have been Hitler's HQ after invasion)
St. Paul's Cathedral
Hampton Court (like Petrodvorets next to London)

OUTSIDE LONDON -
Canterbury Cathedral
Dover Castle
Dover Docks
Solent forts (like small castles in sea next to Kronstadt - AA in
wartime)
Pier (make 1 type and use for Brighton, Portsmouth, Eastbourne etc).
Two areas of white cliffs - Dover and Seven Sisters/Beachy Head"

WOLFMondo
02-19-2006, 10:42 AM
Those white cliffs go all the way along the coast to Brightonhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

jasonbirder
02-19-2006, 11:55 AM
Maunsell Towers in the Thames Estuary
(Like Oil Rigs with AAA on!!!)

SnapdLikeAMutha
02-19-2006, 11:59 AM
http://www.historyoftheuniverse.com/images/millenium_dome.gif

I'd buy the game just for the opportunity to blast it into rubble

beefy1966
02-19-2006, 02:47 PM
clydebank , the germans were doing it a favour , ps its still a dump http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

danjama
02-19-2006, 03:02 PM
I just hope for accurate coastal modelling, and a well modelled/detailed City

plumps_
02-19-2006, 04:01 PM
Battersea Power Station (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battersea_Power_Station)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Battersea_Powerstation_-_Across_Thames_-_London_-_020504.jpg/350px-Battersea_Powerstation_-_Across_Thames_-_London_-_020504.jpg

Dunkelgrun
02-19-2006, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by plumps_:
Battersea Power Station (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battersea_Power_Station)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Battersea_Powerstation_-_Across_Thames_-_London_-_020504.jpg/350px-Battersea_Powerstation_-_Across_Thames_-_London_-_020504.jpg


Gotta be careful there plumps; I believe that it only had two chimneys during the 1940s.

Jasonbirder: the first Maunsell fort wasn't positioned until 1942. They definitely should NOT be on a BoB map.

Cheers!

Freelancer-1
02-19-2006, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by plumps_:
Battersea Power Station (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battersea_Power_Station)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Battersea_Powerstation_-_Across_Thames_-_London_-_020504.jpg/350px-Battersea_Powerstation_-_Across_Thames_-_London_-_020504.jpg


Gotta be careful there plumps; I believe that it only had two chimneys during the 1940s.

Jasonbirder: the first Maunsell fort wasn't positioned until 1942. They definitely should NOT be on a BoB map.

Cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You is wrong.

Here is a rare picture showing this structure with an observation balloon from just before the Blitz.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/Freelancer1/PinkFloydAnimals.jpg

VV_Holdenb
02-20-2006, 02:36 AM
A small bump for thread: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@danjama Agreed coast should be well modelled.
I am a little concerned that idea of "generic piers and
trains stations" may be used for south coast. Althrough
I wouldn't want "stuff" on the ground to interfere with the flying, I wouldn't
want land marks for the "ground pounders and navigatiors" to be compromised.
For example, most if not all, the piers on south coast of UK were unique structures.


@ Dunkelgrun
Battersea power station had two chimneys in 1930's
but by 1944 four (IMHO). Heres a links with a pic comparison:

http://www.vauxhallsociety.org.uk/BatterseaPowerStation.html


ps @ Freelancer-1: Good Pink Floyd album cover - that!

WOLFMondo
02-20-2006, 02:54 AM
Holdenb, I've already been in contact with Jutocsa about the Brighton Piers, as I live down that way.

Unfortunately, the West Pier is now a charred mess of Iron and the Palace (now the Brighton Pier) looks nothing like it did in the 1940's apart from the basic iron work and the clock. Everthing else is different.

There are good sources for what it looked like in the 40's as none of it changed until the 80's. If you want to see what it looked like watch Quadrophenia, thats the state it was left in, in 1940.

IMHO the West Pier always looked nicer and both them them are 3 times the size of either eastbourne or that bit of wood in the sea at Worthing.

There are more important buildings and landmarks though, like the Pavilion (hitler wanted this as a summer residence), the Viaduct (only rail link between Brighton and the east coast, dive bombed a number of times), St Bartholomews (in the centre of Brighton and the tallest church in Britain) etc.

I hope Cuckmere haven also gets modelled with the old WW1 sea plane base there.

plumps_
02-20-2006, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by VV_Holdenb:

@ Dunkelgrun
Battersea power station had two chimneys in 1930's
but by 1944 four (IMHO). Heres a links with a pic comparison:

http://www.vauxhallsociety.org.uk/BatterseaPowerStation.html


The statements I found are contradictory. According to this chronology (http://www.batterseapowerstation.org.uk/chron.html) the fourth chimney was only built in 1955. So is this what the building should look like during BOB?

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8074/batterseaa1930s9ju.jpg

KestrelOne
02-20-2006, 11:11 AM
I think the Shipyards up Newcastle-upon-Tyne way should be modelled. After all the stories my dad told me about the workers throwing spanners and stuff at low flying ME-109s..it would be fun indeed to be able to replicate that.

SnapdLikeAMutha
02-20-2006, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by KestrelOne:
I think the Shipyards up Newcastle-upon-Tyne way should be modelled. After all the stories my dad told me about the workers throwing spanners and stuff at low flying ME-109s..it would be fun indeed to be able to replicate that.

Oh joy, 50 page threads about overmodelled torque wrenches

Saunders1953
02-20-2006, 12:01 PM
Snapdlikamutha, what the hell is that monstrosity?? (I've never been to England, and am sadly underinformed about whatever that upside-down giantic tic thingy is.)

Dunkelgrun
02-20-2006, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by plumps_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VV_Holdenb:

@ Dunkelgrun
Battersea power station had two chimneys in 1930's
but by 1944 four (IMHO). Heres a links with a pic comparison:

http://www.vauxhallsociety.org.uk/BatterseaPowerStation.html


The statements I found are contradictory. According to this chronology (http://www.batterseapowerstation.org.uk/chron.html) the fourth chimney was only built in 1955. So is this what the building should look like during BOB?

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8074/batterseaa1930s9ju.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here you are chaps this (http://www.thepowerstation.co.uk/sales%5Fand%5Fleasing/) is where I got my info from.

'The Power Station building was designed by Sir Giles Gilbert Scott who also designed the Tate Power Station building, Waterloo Bridge , Liverpool Cathedral and red telephone box. It was built in two phases. Battersea A comprising one turbine hall and two chimneys was completed in 1933. The second turbine hall and two chimneys were added in 1953.'

I don't know why we're bothering though; I don't suppose that we'll see either that or the Beckton Gas Works, Dagenham Ford works, Crossness Pumping Station chimney etc etc, which were all targeted or used as navigational markers by the Luftwaffe.

German map of Beckton: http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//beckton.jpg

If Oleg wants info on piers then he could do worse than starting here. (http://www.piers.co.uk/piers.htm) (I sent him the URL in 2004.) Deal pier is a good one: a coaster drifted through it on 29th January 1940, saving everybody the job of removing the centre section.

I also sent Oleg a load of info a couple of years ago, along with an offer of help, but seeing as he's now asking for some of what I sent I suppose he lost it. It took ages simply to get a reply from him, even with CrazyIvan's help.

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Dunkelgrun
02-20-2006, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Saunders1953:
Snapdlikamutha, what the hell is that monstrosity?? (I've never been to England, and am sadly underinformed about whatever that upside-down giantic tic thingy is.)

LOL. That is the Millennium Dome, built to house the nation's celebration of the year 2000. It was supposed to be another 'Festival of Britain' but was mostly filled with unmentionable tat and was not a success. It closed, as intended, after a year and has been empty ever since. One idea was to turn it into a car park.

I surveyed it for Ordnance Survey's special Millennium map; it really is a great building IMHO. However, some illiterate drongo in our drawing office spelled it 'Millenium', thus not helping the marketing problems.

Cheers!

Low_Flyer_MkVb
02-20-2006, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Saunders1953:
Snapdlikamutha, what the hell is that monstrosity?? (I've never been to England, and am sadly underinformed about whatever that upside-down giantic tic thingy is.)

That sir, is the Millenium dome - our proud nation's greatest architectural acheivement of the last century. We speak of it in affectionate, respectful and hushed tones. It post-dates BoB by 60 years, but such is its place in the hearts of the British nation we feel it should be included - with a complete damage model, of course. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Saunders1953
02-20-2006, 12:36 PM
Simon, thanks for the info. I suppose it wouldn't be so bad if they took all the masts and sail rigging off the top, but as is, looks pretty bad. Not th at we don't have any over here in the States, mind you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Dunkelgrun
02-20-2006, 12:39 PM
Mark, who's Simon? Unless it's lowflyer. I'm a bit suspicious though, as you called me Simon once before http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Cheers, Geoff.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
02-20-2006, 12:40 PM
It's not me,

Cheers, Andy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Saunders1953
02-20-2006, 02:58 PM
Sorry Geoff, Simon is my other English friend from these boards. With no face to put to the name.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

VV_Holdenb
02-20-2006, 03:52 PM
@ Dunkelgrun and plumps_:
Looks like first pic in the link I posted for Battersea power station the date is wrong, not 1944 for sure! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif
Sorry too hasty to post, will try and find more than one references next time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Another link saying 1953:
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/industrial/battersea.htm

"So is this what the building should look like during BOB?"
Yes I agree the 2 chimney version in BOB.

@ Dunkelgrun

"I also sent Oleg a load of info a couple of years ago, along with an offer of help, but seeing as he's now asking for some of what I sent I suppose he lost it. It took ages simply to get a reply from him, even with CrazyIvan's help."
But now some models are in progress and Jutocsa is on the case, now is a good time to send IMHO!

I will collect all these links together when this thread has ran its course with provider names.
and email Oleg & co, probably with CrazyIvan's help also.


@ WOLFMondo: West Pier must have been splendid in its day: http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
another pier link
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section...b859ea0dea112eb673e6 (http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section.php/48/0/1cf8dc622b5fb859ea0dea112eb673e6)

@Freelancer-1: another link for you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.batterseapowerstation.org.uk/floyd/floyd.html

More for the landmark wish list:

"The pepper pot" at St Catherines Isle of Wight
http://www.invectis.co.uk/iow/orat.htm

Castles: example : Caisbrooke on Isle of Wight / other
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section...39ae99b2cc4786bdf418 (http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section.php/39/0/25eb9384b83339ae99b2cc4786bdf418)
Cathedrals
example Canturbury
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section...39ae99b2cc4786bdf418 (http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section.php/40/0/25eb9384b83339ae99b2cc4786bdf418)
Parish Churchs
example Godshill, Isle of Wight
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section...39ae99b2cc4786bdf418 (http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section.php/1335/0/25eb9384b83339ae99b2cc4786bdf418)
Royal residences, Osbourne house, Isle of Wight
http://www.invectis.co.uk/iow/osborne.htm
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section...a6138b3e8c234ca8ea50 (http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/Image_Library/section.php/50/0/486f1605eeb1a6138b3e8c234ca8ea50)