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dchil279
07-19-2011, 10:47 AM
What UbiGabe says in this Q&A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRI6SmUQGss&feature=related) really bothers me. I find the multiplayer to be extremely frustrating and underdeveloped and do not want to waste my time playing it in order to access more story elements in the brilliant story mode. I have never complained about the multiplayer before because I was able to simply avoid it, but this forces me (If I want to 100% sync/get the most out of the SP game) to play it which I don't like.

RzaRecta357
07-19-2011, 10:58 AM
Well, underdeveloped is a strong word. Sounds more like you're just bad at social stealth and complain about the game.

Anyway, besides trophies you have nothing to worry about when it comes to the SP.

What he meant was, in between leveling up rank in the new game online...Viddic will give you little tidbits of information about what Abstergo is doing as well.

So we get to see the other side of the fence.

Now, seeing as these little scenes won't even reach the 2 minute mark I'm thinking....you could easily watch them on youtube....probably by the time you finish the SP game.

Thus avoiding the multiplayer all together.

The multiplayer is VERY well thought out within the universe and game world.

Although, being a HUGE AC nerd...I never got by level 30 just because I started getting bored of it.

They're trying to give people like us more incentive to play the MP and finish it, with the scenes of viddic.

xCr0wnedNorris
07-19-2011, 11:08 AM
Sad to hear that you don't play the multiplayer, it's a unique and fun experience.

GunnarGunderson
07-19-2011, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
Sounds more like you're just bad at social stealth and complain about the game.

That's not it at all, the game is easily broken by people who aren't stealthy, I literally had my target sprint right up to my face, mute me, and then stun me. I'll certainly play the multiplayer if there's a vanilla playlist without abilities or perks

xCr0wnedNorris
07-19-2011, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by BradKinn:

That's not it at all, the game is easily broken by people who aren't stealthy, I literally had my target sprint right up to my face, mute me, and then stun me. I'll certainly play the multiplayer if there's a vanilla playlist without abilities or perks

Don't be obvious and you won't get punched in the face. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

albertwesker22
07-19-2011, 11:31 AM
Plus you are often forced to sprint after your target, who will never stop sprinting around. You are forced to break your cover often just to keep up with your target.

xCr0wnedNorris
07-19-2011, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Plus you are often forced to sprint after your target, who will never stop sprinting around. You are forced to break your cover often just to keep up with your target.
Intercept him, don't follow him. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

AntiChrist7
07-19-2011, 12:04 PM
besides, if you are not gonna play MP (which is your loss), you'll probably will read all the story-related items on the ac wikia

LightRey
07-19-2011, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by AntiChrist7:
besides, if you are not gonna play MP (which is your loss), you'll probably will read all the story-related items on the ac wikia
According to that logic he could just as well not play the game at all and just read everything on the wikia.
'sides, the wikia is filled with errors.
There's also the fact that for instance on the Xbox, you need to pay for Xbox live gold to play MP, and some people simply don't want to pay extra money for that.
tbh, I don't really like this either. I don't really like missing out on stuff just because I don't play MP much.

dchil279
07-19-2011, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by xCr0wnedNorris:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Plus you are often forced to sprint after your target, who will never stop sprinting around. You are forced to break your cover often just to keep up with your target.
Intercept him, don't follow him. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
what about when you get caught in a stun-train? people of the opposing team keep re-stunning you as soon as you wake up from the last one?

xCr0wnedNorris
07-19-2011, 02:19 PM
Again a result of being obvious. If it happens in team games just simply hit the de-synch button that appears over your head. If it happens in Alliance then you'll have to rely on your teammate to help you. If you both get stun-locked then you have to rely on your pursuers to kill you to get you out of it. It takes well organized targets and not-so-well organized pursuers in order to keep a stun-lock going for very long.

kriegerdesgottes
07-19-2011, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Plus you are often forced to sprint after your target, who will never stop sprinting around. You are forced to break your cover often just to keep up with your target.

Yes! exactly. How in the world are you going to be stealthy when someone is constantly running? I can't stand the MP portion and I never play it anymore but I don't like any MP either so it's not just AC.

notafanboy
07-19-2011, 02:44 PM
if someone has already paid for the game and just intend to play singleplayer, they shouldn't miss out on things because they dont have the capability/motivation to play multiplayer

GunnarGunderson
07-19-2011, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by xCr0wnedNorris:
Again a result of being obvious. If it happens in team games just simply hit the de-synch button that appears over your head. If it happens in Alliance then you'll have to rely on your teammate to help you. If you both get stun-locked then you have to rely on your pursuers to kill you to get you out of it. It takes well organized targets and not-so-well organized pursuers in order to keep a stun-lock going for very long. You can be as unobvious as you want, but eventually you'll have to get close to your target if you want to kill him, and usually he doesn't hang around where there are large groups of people. Not to mention his teammate with templar vision pointing out everyone on the other theam

thornebrook
07-19-2011, 02:49 PM
I think Ubisoft's rationale (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that you're paying for the Single Player experience, and the multiplayer is just a "bonus," I think. Regardless of whether or not you actually bought the game for the multiplayer or not.

Anyway, for those who hate the multiplayer, why not just endure leveling up to max MP level for the storyline then ditch it, if you don't want to watch it on youtube? It might not take that long if you stay away from Ranked sessions, even in a string of horrible lobbies.

GunnarGunderson
07-19-2011, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by thornebrook:
I think Ubisoft's rationale (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that you're paying for the Single Player experience, and the multiplayer is just a "bonus," I think. Regardless of whether or not you actually bought the game for the multiplayer or not.

Anyway, for those who hate the multiplayer, why not just endure leveling up to max MP level for the storyline then ditch it, if you don't want to watch it on youtube? It might not take that long if you stay away from Ranked sessions, even in a string of horrible lobbies. Multiplayer would be better if there was atleast one exclusively co-op mode

masterfenix2009
07-19-2011, 03:00 PM
I'm pretty sure its what other people said. Only a few things Viddic tells us. Ubisoft isn't that dumb to combine something, so good with a bad thing right?


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lejezz7BNR1qagqjbo1_400.jpg

Wait,wait! Back from the pits of hell from which you came! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

LightRey
07-19-2011, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by assassino151:
I'm pretty sure its what other people said. Only a few things Viddic tells us. Ubisoft isn't that dumb to combine something, so good with a bad thing right?


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lejezz7BNR1qagqjbo1_400.jpg

Wait,wait! Back from the pits of hell from which you came! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
My eyes! Kill it with fire!

twenty_glyphs
07-19-2011, 03:49 PM
When talking about the Risk-like meta-game of sending your Assassin recruits to different cities across the Mediterranean to fight against Templars, there was an image caption that mentions this:



http://www.gameinformer.com/b/...aspx?PostPageIndex=2 (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/05/27/the-assassin-templar-war-in-ac-revelations.aspx?PostPageIndex=2)
According to Ubisoft, some conquerable cities in single-player will only open up by playing multiplayer

These cities are supposed to reward you with money and different bomb-crafting ingredients. It's possible that the cities unlocked by playing multiplayer will have some unique bomb ingredients that you may miss out on if you don't unlock them. That will be irritating, but hopefully not too big of a deal. It will obviously depend on what you get by having those unlocked cities for the Assassin training side-game.

Even if Ubisoft was just considering multiplayer a "bonus" (which I doubt they are), I don't see how that plays into them trying to entice players to play it to unlock single-player content. I see the rationale of trying to encourage people to try out the multiplayer, I just hope nothing of real consequence gets missed because of that.

RebeccaLH
07-19-2011, 04:09 PM
I like how they are developing the story within multiplayer but i can see how it can be annoying.
if you dont find the multiplayer enjoyable its as if your being forced to play to find out more to the story. I know your not being made to play it and the additions may not be important but yeah i can see how annoying this would be.

LightRey
07-19-2011, 04:17 PM
I just hope I can sort of do it on the side. So I don't have to spend hours on end in MP to reach some high level or something.

thornebrook
07-19-2011, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
Even if Ubisoft was just considering multiplayer a "bonus" (which I doubt they are), I don't see how that plays into them trying to entice players to play it to unlock single-player content. I see the rationale of trying to encourage people to try out the multiplayer, I just hope nothing of real consequence gets missed because of that.

I probably worded that incorrectly. I meant to say that it's the safer route for Ubisoft to say in terms of appeasing SP-only players who don't like the MP side of the recent game(s). I think their actual intent is to get more people to try out and like multiplayer so that it's added incentive for people not to pirate the games.

ace3001
07-20-2011, 06:20 AM
Okay, now this is gonna suck big time. Not everyone in the world has a fast enough connection to play multiplayer! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

sassinscreed
07-20-2011, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by dchil279:
What UbiGabe says in this Q&A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRI6SmUQGss&feature=related) really bothers me. I find the multiplayer to be extremely frustrating and underdeveloped and do not want to waste my time playing it in order to access more story elements in the brilliant story mode. I have never complained about the multiplayer before because I was able to simply avoid it, but this forces me (If I want to 100% sync/get the most out of the SP game) to play it which I don't like.

completing singleplayer to get something in multiplayer would be ok, but if you have to play multiplayer to get singleplayer story that is terrible idea doesn't matter if you play multiplayer or not it shouldn't affect singleplayer

because assassins creed is singleplayer game not multiplayer game, mutliplayer is just bonus added in brotherhood or it is supposed to be like that

and people play games for fun, so if you don't like multiplayer that would mean that you will be forced to play it if you want full singleplayer story, and that is not fun


Originally posted by thornebrook:


I probably worded that incorrectly. I meant to say that it's the safer route for Ubisoft to say in terms of appeasing SP-only players who don't like the MP side of the recent game(s). I think their actual intent is to get more people to try out and like multiplayer so that it's added incentive for people not to pirate the games.

i don't think you will be able get thet story just with entering multiplayer mode

DavisP92
07-20-2011, 11:16 AM
AC was orginally a SP game, and it appears that Ubisoft is trying they're hardest to get gamers into the multiplayer. which is a good thing, however not everyone like they're multiplayer, has a good connection, or even has online. so to limit certain gameplay for the SP (no matter how small is never a good thing).

even though i played and enjoyed the multiplayer for ACB, once i got all the trophies i never touched it again. i was always into story more than multiplayer, and in all honesty i'd rather have a coop story then multiplayer.

but even with the way i feel about it i will play it, and enjoy as much as i can from it. even if it has it's faults (stun chain isn't a fault in the game, i did it a month after the game came out and after taking a break i saw mass ppl doing it and they were so much better then haha. but it's easy to get out of)

i remember some kid was saying me and my friends were cheating because we were doing it :P

Ureh
07-20-2011, 11:23 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed ACB MP... which was unexpected. It had a really high level of polish to it and felt nearly flawless. But this also led me to believe that they were devoting considerable resources/time to MP and thereby allowed the SP to suffer (I felt it had). Whenever a game has SP and MP portions, we're always told that neither experience will fall short. But I feel that they lie to us in that regard.

The SP seems to have more polish this time around (compared to the ACB content they showed last year). With some of the experience and feedback they gained from ACB MP, I hope this time they didn't need to work as hard on ACR MP to impress us.

With that said, my home internet is usually very slow (to the point that I can't even join a game). And because of that it took me nearly a month just to reach lvl 50. I would've preferred to spend that amount time on a highly polished SP instead. Hopefully the SP content that can only be unlocked by playing MP is as trivial as the ones they offered in Project Legacy. This year I may not have time to play the MP.

Mr_Shade
07-20-2011, 11:26 AM
Just remember - I'm sure someone will video the Cutscenes etc shown in Multiplayer..


So if you REALLY hate MP - you can still see what happens http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Stowdace
07-20-2011, 11:10 PM
It has already been stated that in order to unlock certain personas for the multiplayer, Ezio must find and assassinate them(Similar concept to the Templar Agent side missions?)

Don't see how playing Multiplayer would unlock content in the Single Player besides the already said Templar scenes as you rise in ranks. But even that isn't relevant to Ezio's story.

Vey03
07-21-2011, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Just remember - I'm sure someone will video the Cutscenes etc shown in Multiplayer..


So if you REALLY hate MP - you can still see what happens http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So why bother buying the game at all? People record gameplay, so i'll watch it free on the net, know the storyline, have all the info, keep the $80 in my pocket, and not have to worry about endless problems that come with MP, lack of support, lag, bugs etc...?
Great idea. Thanks for saving me $80!
Honestly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

If i'm paying for a game, i want the whole damn thing. I don't want to be forced into playing MP to get the full game! Are you kidding me?

I dunno what Ubi's playing at with ACR, but the more i read about it, the less i like.

LightRey
07-21-2011, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Mouse03:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Just remember - I'm sure someone will video the Cutscenes etc shown in Multiplayer..


So if you REALLY hate MP - you can still see what happens http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So why bother buying the game at all? People record gameplay, so i'll watch it free on the net, know the storyline, have all the info, keep the $80 in my pocket, and not have to worry about endless problems that come with MP, lack of support, lag, bugs etc...?
Great idea. Thanks for saving me $80!
Honestly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

If i'm paying for a game, i want the whole damn thing. I don't want to be forced into playing MP to get the full game! Are you kidding me?

I dunno what Ubi's playing at with ACR, but the more i read about it, the less i like. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
exactly.

Dagio12
07-21-2011, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Mouse03:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Just remember - I'm sure someone will video the Cutscenes etc shown in Multiplayer..


So if you REALLY hate MP - you can still see what happens http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So why bother buying the game at all? People record gameplay, so i'll watch it free on the net, know the storyline, have all the info, keep the $80 in my pocket, and not have to worry about endless problems that come with MP, lack of support, lag, bugs etc...?
Great idea. Thanks for saving me $80!
Honestly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well there ya go buddy, problem solved. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dagio12
07-21-2011, 08:59 AM
in all seriousness though, this will probably just be small scenes within multiplayer that give you a little extra information about abstergo.. maybe some extra background info about certain SP characters.. idk for sure, but i can almost guarantee it wont be something that is trivial and absolutely essential to know for the SP experience. Just something to make the multiplayer aspect of the game seem more indepth and allows them to flesh out some "xtra" details within the assassins creed story arc. but I doubt this info will be life changing in any way, shape, or form.

LightRey
07-21-2011, 09:04 AM
well hopefully it will be about as trivial as the scene with Vidic when you first start up MP.

Dagio12
07-21-2011, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
well hopefully it will be about as trivial as the scene with Vidic when you first start up MP.

haha. yah. I actually really enjoyed MP, so this isnt a big deal to me. but i can understand the people that dont like it, or just cant play it because they dont have live capabilities. Im sure they are really trying to sell this MP extra content stuff to try and encourage more people to give play it.. but i doubt its going to be as big of a deal as people think it is. heres hoping anyways. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LightRey
07-21-2011, 09:19 AM
I just don't really like MP much in general. I must admit I enjoyed the ACB MP much more than any other MP (and that includes Halo, which I'm a big fan of), but I just don't really like playing against other people. I do think I'd really enjoy a sort of coop-ish MP.

Dagio12
07-21-2011, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
I just don't really like MP much in general. I must admit I enjoyed the ACB MP much more than any other MP (and that includes Halo, which I'm a big fan of), but I just don't really like playing against other people. I do think I'd really enjoy a sort of coop-ish MP.

I'm in the same boat. I never really got into competitive multiplayer.. but brotherhood got me really into its multiplayer for some reason. Aside of that, I enjoy freeroaming with friends like red dead redemption, as well as coop stuff.

FiskMunk
07-21-2011, 10:24 AM
No matter what I do, I can't connect to multiplayer matches in AC:B -.- If advancing in MP is required to fully enjoy the SP experience as well, I'll be sad.