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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:35 AM
I can't get it anywhere near its top speed of 515km/hr unless I dive. Also, it takes forever to get at that speed if flying level.and by that time, the engine is overheating. This FM needs to be looked at. Some VVS planes Ive been testing, on the other hand do not have these drawbacks especially in overheating and acceleration.

Thank You

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:35 AM
I can't get it anywhere near its top speed of 515km/hr unless I dive. Also, it takes forever to get at that speed if flying level.and by that time, the engine is overheating. This FM needs to be looked at. Some VVS planes Ive been testing, on the other hand do not have these drawbacks especially in overheating and acceleration.

Thank You

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 04:49 AM
Sure you can, take a look at my tests (Bf-109 F-2 @ 5100 m):

Throttle: 110%
Propeller Pitch: Auto
Radiator: Auto
Top speed: 545 km/h TAS (True Air Speed)

Throttle: 110%
Propeller Pitch: Auto
Radiator: Closed
Top speed: 601 km/h TAS

Throttle: 110%
Propeller Pitch: Man (2700 RPM)
Radiator: Closed
Top speed: 620 km/h TAS


Just a good note:

Throttle: 95% -> No overheat!
Propeller Pitch: Auto
Radiator: Closed
Top speed: 564 km/h TAS

Message Edited on 10/17/0303:51AM by BVG_Erick

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 06:48 PM
The point is:
One should be able to reach the real-life speeds and specs without making use of "tricks".

For example the 109F should reach it's max speed WITH automatic prop pitch or do you think the Luftwaffe pilots ever flew with manual pitch (risking an overrew of the engine which leads to a sudden engine-kill or at least a serious damage to it)!?!?
The Overheating of the Friedrich in 1.11 is also a joke... After about 2-3 min at 110% and automatic radiator the overheat warning comes up and shortly afterwards your engine is toast!
Now just pick a contemporary russian bird (LaGG3-41 is a good comparison for it is so greatly porked)... You'll see that they probably never overheat with full power and open rad...(LaGG3-41 again)

At least Oleg promised to review the overheating characteristics of the Bf109 and the prop pitch system to give us the REAL specs...........well I really hope so

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Buzz_25th
10-17-2003, 07:56 PM
Gen.Firehawk161

Did you even read his tests? Only one of them is with manual pitch. What tricks did he use?

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 09:20 PM
It's pretty obvious he didn't read the test at all, either that or he doesn't get it.

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 11:10 PM
mike_espo wrote:
- I can't get it anywhere near its top speed of
- 515km/hr unless I dive. Also, it takes forever to
- get at that speed if flying level.and by that time,
- the engine is overheating. This FM needs to be
- looked at. Some VVS planes Ive been testing, on the
- other hand do not have these drawbacks especially in
- overheating and acceleration.
-
- Thank You
-

All the speeds you see on the speedbar or, your airspeed indicator, are Indicated airspeed only. It is merely an indication of how fast the air travels around your plane. If you want to know the true airspeed (TAS) just get the no-cockpit view and read the speed at that gauge.

Or, if the speeds are likely to NOT exceed 400 km/h, you can use this EXCEL formula: =C3+((C3/100)*2)*(($B4*3,2808)/1000)

Here C3= the Indicated airspeed (IAS) and B4 is the altitude in meters. (great for making bomb-aiming table's /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 11:11 PM
And, you might wanna read this topic /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 11:40 PM
I just forget to add...

The Bf-109 F-2 top speed object viewer is 615 km/h TAS (not 515 km/h), and you only can reach that speed with maximum engine settings: radiator closed, propeller pitch manual, throttle 110% and... Overheat.

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 11:45 PM
Don't worry,the 109 FM is being corrected in patch 1.2....

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Buzz_25th
10-18-2003, 12:02 AM
BVG_Erick

The speed is 515 km/h at SL. What altitude did you do your tests at?

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 12:13 AM
Hello Buzz,

Object Viewer:
Altitude: 5100 m
Top Speed: 615 km/h

My test:
Altitude: 5100 m
Top Speed: 620 km/h TAS
Throttle: 110%
Propeller Pitch: Manual (2700 RPM)
Radiator: Closed

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Buzz_25th
10-18-2003, 12:22 AM
Close enough for me../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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