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Blottogg
05-17-2006, 01:19 PM
Slightly off-topic because she wasn't commissioned until 1950, though she was an Essex class I think. The story is here (http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20060517/446a9fc0_3421_1334520060517768265971)

She's off the gulf coast of Florida in about 200 feet of water, though I don't know where Escambia County is in the state. It took 500 lb of plastique and about 45 minutes to put her on the bottom.

Corsair_Fanatic
05-17-2006, 02:54 PM
She was a Ticonderoga class ship, actually.

Well darn. Now where am I going to get a used carrier to fly my planes from? Annoying. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ColoradoBBQ
05-17-2006, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Corsair_Fanatic:
She was a Ticonderoga class ship, actually.

Well darn. Now where am I going to get a used carrier to fly my planes from? Annoying. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

We could pump the water out of that area and transport it to the other side of Florida. ITs only a hundred miles.

Bearcat99
05-17-2006, 04:30 PM
Wow.... the O boat's a reef..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

dhorkoff
05-17-2006, 05:34 PM
212 feet is awfully deep for a "tourist" reef. You need special equipment and training to dive that deep.

Also, 24 miles off the beach? Again, not too tourist friendly...

SuperFudd
05-17-2006, 06:04 PM
I served aboard her during Operation Silver Lance back in '64. Details on my site, www.donsafer.com (http://www.donsafer.com) .
May she rest in peace.

Blottogg
05-18-2006, 08:21 AM
Thanks for the correction Corsair_Fanatic. I'm not familiar with the Tico class (other than the later cruiser class with the same name.)

There are still a few carriers in mothballs, as well as museum ships. If you win the lottery, you can buy the Intrepid and have her refitted. She even comes with her own museum's worth of aicraft (some refurbishment required prior to flight.)

Blottogg
05-18-2006, 08:30 AM
Okay, I actually dug out an old copy of Jane's Fighting Ships and looked up the Oriskany. She actually is an Essex class, along with the Lexington and Bon Homme Richard. She wasn't completed until 1950, and was subsequently heavily modified to either the Hancock or Intrepid class standard (it doesn't say which.)

Lex is a museum ship now IIRC, though I don't know the status of the "Bonny ****". She was laid up in Bremerton alongside the Oriskany. Perhaps she's slated for reef duty, too?

P.S. The things the profanity filter hits on are sometimes silly. Pity the guys named Richard trying to truncate their names.

P.P.S. dhorkoff, 212 is pretty deep, but she drew 30 feet while afloat, and there was probably another 100 feet of hull/deck/island/mast above the waterline. The upper portions of the wreck should be more accessable to sport divers, provided she scuttled upright.

Corsair_Fanatic
05-18-2006, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Blottogg:
Thanks for the correction Corsair_Fanatic. I'm not familiar with the Tico class (other than the later cruiser class with the same name.)

There are still a few carriers in mothballs, as well as museum ships. If you win the lottery, you can buy the Intrepid and have her refitted. She even comes with her own museum's worth of aicraft (some refurbishment required prior to flight.)


Hmm. THat would give me a Super Tomcat and a Blackbird. Heh. I think I'd need something bigger. A Midway or Forrestal class, perhaps.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Top_Gun_1_0_1
05-18-2006, 01:05 PM
heres the video:
http://www.navy.mil/view_videos.asp?page=449&sort_type=0&sort_row=1

AVGWarhawk
05-18-2006, 02:06 PM
She is out there awaiting the lost squadron that disappeard in the Bermuda triangle.

WB_Outlaw
05-18-2006, 08:34 PM
Hopefully she sank upright and not very deep in the bottom b/c Pensecola is now right up on the top of my next dive list. The recreational "limit" is 130 feet if you're breathing air so most, if not all, of the island and maybe the deck itself should be in reach. I dove the Spiegel Grove the first weekend she was approved for diving after hurricane Dennis righter her and midway into the hold was at 114 feet (and I was 5 min. away from a decompression dive) so it shouldn't be too difficult. With a quick descent and a close eye on your dive computer it oughta be a snap.

The visibility is probably pretty poor around there so photos will be tough to get but I'll sure as hell try.

--Outlaw.

WB_Outlaw
05-18-2006, 08:39 PM
I just checked it out and she sank upright with the island at 65 feet and the flight deck at around 130 ft. More info here...

http://www.divemightyo.com/?source=google1

It doesn't look like she's open for diving yet but I just put my name of the list. My parents still live in Baton Rouge which is just a few hours from Pensacola so my wife and I will be doing this dive if we can sell our old house quick enough (hopefully within the next 3 months or so). Anyone want to buy a 2400 sq. ft. house in NW Houston?

--Outlaw.

Corsair_Fanatic
05-19-2006, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by AVGWarhawk:
She is out there awaiting the lost squadron that disappeard in the Bermuda triangle.

From what I can tell, that group of planes apparently went down in VERY deep water. I doubt any trace of 'em will ever be found.


Oh well, with the Oriskany on the bottom, I guess I'll have to see if I can get my hands on Forrestal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

zeno303
05-22-2006, 01:02 PM
The BBC has some good video too. A great opportunity to watch a big CV go down for a good cause with no loss of life.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4992158.stm

WB_Outlaw
05-23-2006, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Corsair_Fanatic:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AVGWarhawk:
She is out there awaiting the lost squadron that disappeard in the Bermuda triangle.

From what I can tell, that group of planes apparently went down in VERY deep water. I doubt any trace of 'em will ever be found.


Oh well, with the Oriskany on the bottom, I guess I'll have to see if I can get my hands on Forrestal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

An old roommate of mine who served on the Carl Vinson (power plant water treatment IIRC) said they called the Forrestal the "Forest Fire" due to her propensity to catch fire in all sorts of places including (obviously) the flight deck.

--Outlaw.

Top_Gun_1_0_1
05-24-2006, 11:55 AM
they need to open that wreck for diving http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Corsair_Fanatic
05-24-2006, 12:40 PM
Thats the plan. Check it out here (http://www.divemightyo.com/?source=google1)

WB_Outlaw
05-24-2006, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Top_Gun_1_0_1:
they need to open that wreck for diving http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

My wife and I are already on the list to dive her. Hopefully they will get back with us soon but it might be a while before they declare her safe for diving.

--Outlaw.