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raaaid
10-11-2007, 06:46 AM
the fia found out that in the last clasiification where alonso was 0.6 seconds behind hamilton he had 6 times mor pressure in the tyres than normal

i wonder if in japan where alonso crashed they had used sabotage as well

very nice they dont mind if you crash and die as long as they use fair game, sabotaging the best

whiteladder
10-11-2007, 06:52 AM
Alonso has whined all season about not getting preferential treatment at mclaren.

He`s just sore at getting outshone by the rookie.

raaaid
10-11-2007, 07:05 AM
i bet the issue of having 6 times more pressure in last clasification didnt even make it to saxon press

if hamilton wins it will be a victory of cheaters

all this championship is about is good vs bad

Airmail109
10-11-2007, 07:16 AM
Alonso's a nobhead who deserved everything he got

Victory of cheaters my arse, remember what Alonso did in the pits http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Oh and remember all the times hes tried to force Hamilton off the track.

The guys an arrogant idiot, hes probably pissed off most of his team. When you do that, stuff like this happens. Max Biaggi learned that in the GP

x6BL_Brando
10-11-2007, 07:24 AM
if hamilton wins it will be a victory of cheaters
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saxon press
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" very nice they dont mind if you crash and die as long as they use fair game, sabotaging the best "
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No nationalistic bias on your part then?
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raaaid
10-11-2007, 07:25 AM
right so lets put 6 times more pressure and get him killed

you are manipulated by the press

you are so manipulated by media you havent even been taught how hitler burnt the parliament and blame the jewish

it doesnt remind me of anything at all because tv wouldnt say it

luftluuver
10-11-2007, 07:26 AM
6 times normal pressure. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Those tyres must have been like rocks. Not much of a driver if he couldn't tell his tyres were that over inflated.

Anyways, doubt very much that the tyre could be over inflated by that much without exploding.

Sounds like a crybaby tactic.

Airmail109
10-11-2007, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
right so lets put 6 times more pressure and get him killed

you are manipulated by the press

you are so manipulated by media you havent even been taught how hitler burnt the parliament and blame the jewish

it doesnt remind me of anything at all because tv wouldnt say it

LMFAO, I know far more about the Rise of Nazi Germany due to my education than you ever will. In fact the Germans complain frequently about how much work we do covering it.

We're not manipulated by the press anymore than you guys are.

Alonso should learn you don't bite the hand feeding you.

x6BL_Brando
10-11-2007, 07:32 AM
you are manipulated by the press

yeah yeah, and I also tend to forget where I left my medication sometimes, too. But I don't blame it on Hitler, Zionism or the little green men - it's just the drugs that make me forgetful.

Your man lost, get over it. Accusing the mechanics of sabotaging the car is a very, very serious accusation that could land you in a law court...

raaaid
10-11-2007, 07:44 AM
thats proved by the fia

the fia checked it

the fia measured it

the paper here said so and i knew yours wouldnt say it

raaaid
10-11-2007, 07:46 AM
http://insider.speedtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=158793&postd...529955d37418409307f1 (http://insider.speedtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=158793&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=b54f3bb5ca2f529955d37418409307f1)

Airmail109
10-11-2007, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
thats proved by the fia

the fia checked it

the fia measured it

the paper here said so and i knew yours wouldnt say it

oh well, sucks to be Alonso.

Remember the same happened at the start of the season with Hamilton. Seem to remember the FIA saying Mclaren were discriminating against Hamilton.

Anyway Alonso got what he deserved for being an arrogant cheating whiner.

raaaid
10-11-2007, 07:50 AM
so im insane

i blame hitler and green men for alonsos

i can end in courtyard for my freedom of speech

no wonder i had stopped posting here i dont know why i keep

and from a person i thought my friend

i say a truth and look...

raaaid
10-11-2007, 07:56 AM
in japan the pressures of the rear tyres were also altered and he had an accident

and there are suspicious of sabotage in hungary as well

raaaid
10-11-2007, 07:58 AM
Max Mosley reacted quickly to the complaints of Fernando Alonso after the qualification.
The president of the FIA is a staunch enemy of Rum Dennis and he is not going to him to pass nor one. In fact, to last hour of afternoon of Saturday it made him arrive his preoccupation through an emissary at the own bichampion. It does not want traps around the car number one nor that is harmed to him in its fight by the title. For that reason it has decided to open a discreet investigation that will maintain the tension on the headquarters of McLaren until Brazil.
The data in writing of the pressures of all the games of tires used by the Spanish have been successfully obtained during the GP of China. And the numbers contribute still more to the increase of the suspicions. Of the ten games that the Spanish used, only two had the altered pressures. They were those that put to him in third and decisive part of the qualification.

Instead of being to 0.2 pounds of pressure, they were to more than 1,5. Something that diminishes its adhesion drastically. This time the cause could be the overheat of compounds.
The heaters were to a greater temperature of habitual, the superior thing to 90 degrees, and this generated the alteration of the pressures. Of there the final collapse and the loss of time. In Fuji the pressures also were bad, but only in the back wheels and perhaps by badly swollen.
The heaters of the last race have sent them to England to analyze them, but, peculiarly, these things never happen to him in qualification to Lewis Hamilton. It is, with Hungary and Japan, the third suspicion of sabotage of the year.

Airmail109
10-11-2007, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
in japan the pressures of the rear tyres were also altered and he had an accident

and there are suspicious of sabotage in hungary as well

LOL okay then, Hamilton's car was sabotaged when his tyres failed.

Dude, Ferrari forgot to refill Masas car. Stuff like this happens all the time. Alonso's just a paranoid drama queen. He thought mechanics were conspiring against him in Ferrari as well.

bigbossmalone
10-11-2007, 08:16 AM
To hell with it,both Maclaren drivers have lost any good impressions I might have had of them, to my mind.
I've been a prancing horse fan since around 1980, and will happily support them.
My ideal result? Alonso and Hamilton take each other out in the last race, Kimi wins!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

p1ngu666
10-11-2007, 08:24 AM
http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=...isplay=&pagenumber=3 (http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97377&perpage=40&display=&pagenumber=3)

apon closer inspection, it doesnt seem true, and highly unlikely...

Airmail109
10-11-2007, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by bigbossmalone:
To hell with it,both Maclaren drivers have lost any good impressions I might have had of them, to my mind.
I've been a prancing horse fan since around 1980, and will happily support them.
My ideal result? Alonso and Hamilton take each other out in the last race, Kimi wins!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

LOL Hamiltons well on the way to becoming F1s "Rossi" you guys are just jelous, Masas cool though. About Kimi though, heres what some Finnish friends had to say "annoying brat" "Whining bast***" and "loser with a ridiculous voice"

Kimis popular in every country but his own.

Alonso should marry Danni Pedrosa and run off to canada before angry motorsport fans lynch them

Airmail109
10-11-2007, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=...isplay=&pagenumber=3 (http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97377&perpage=40&display=&pagenumber=3)

apon closer inspection, it doesnt seem true, and highly unlikely...

omgf p1ngu

Manu-6S
10-11-2007, 09:08 AM
Raaid, leave this discussion http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Many english posters here (not all of course) don't care to listen the truth. They don't care if somebody screams for justice.

I always hated Alonso, an arrogant ***hole (some spanish friend of mine say the same) and I was really supporting Hamilton.. he did great things in Gp2 and is a real talent.

But... this year he demostrated to be arrogant (less than Alonso) but overall childish and fake.

No I really wish they both lose the champs, not because I'm a Ferrari fan (not so much at least..), but because of spy scandal and the FIA astonishing decisions in favour of Lewis.

Krt_Bong
10-11-2007, 09:12 AM
So do any of these guys fly IL-2?

KRISTORF
10-11-2007, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by Krt_Bong:
So do any of these guys fly IL-2?

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Airmail109
10-11-2007, 09:21 AM
LOL hows Hamilton been childish and arrogant? Hes probably one of the nicer guys on the track.

KRISTORF
10-11-2007, 09:34 AM
Alonso thought he had a clear run to the championship this year with a new boy in the team.

Hamilton found his feet and the did what he has done all his life, he won.

Result, Alonso's teddy went out of the pram.

Funny thing though, I never remembered the FIA taking an interest when (in Martin Brundle's worbs) Golden ******/Schumacher was at (never broke the rules) Ferrari and Irvine or Barrichello were threatening to win.

Airmail109
10-11-2007, 09:37 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/24/breaking-alonso-to-ferrari-for-40-mil/

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I cant wait to see the catfight between Kimi and Alonso

x6BL_Brando
10-11-2007, 10:02 AM
very nice they dont mind if you crash and die as long as they use fair game, sabotaging the best

Just to be clear Raaaid, it's the tone of the title and the above statement that I find both offensive and laughable.
Your following comparison between Hitlerian propaganda and the British Press is ill-considered and faintly offensive too. You seem to have a strange vision of the British mindset.

I'm not your enemy, nor yet your friend - I'm just expressing my frustration with your talent for making absurd connections, and accusing professional sports-people of attempted murder, whether they are British or any other nationality.

Btw, I'm not an F1 fan particularly. To me it's a sport mostly populated by prima donnas who think their achievements are of world importance.

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x6BL_Brando
10-11-2007, 10:05 AM
And @ P1ngu

Hello Bro! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We've missed you - and the 6BL TS server is still up 24/7. Drop in and say Hello sometime http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Divine-Wind
10-11-2007, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
the fia found out that in the last clasiification where alonso was 0.6 seconds behind hamilton he had 6 times mor pressure in the tyres than normal

i wonder if in japan where alonso crashed they had used sabotage as well

very nice they dont mind if you crash and die as long as they use fair game, sabotaging the best
WHO THE FUDGE ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH RAAAID!!?

raaaid posted a topic that makes sense! It doesn't seem feasible!

Hoenire
10-11-2007, 10:50 AM
What an idiot thread.

All F1 drivers have to be bloody-minded, hard-hearted, egotistical and driven to ensure that they succeed - its the same in any sport. If Hamilton wins it'll be because he was the better driver in a good car. If Alonso or Raikonnen win it'll be exactly the same.

briyeo
10-11-2007, 10:55 AM
Well whatever the outcome of this championship it sure is nice to see a real race driver again. Hamilton is a breath of fresh air, it must have been a real eye opener for him this season, just wait until he learns the ropes.

Viper2005_
10-11-2007, 10:58 AM
Obviously the Whaambulance driver isn't up to F1 standards...

MEGILE
10-11-2007, 11:02 AM
Really who cares.

These people get paid lots of money to drive expensive cars.

F1 is just advertising, only really fast round a track.

Whirlin_merlin
10-11-2007, 11:06 AM
Come on Raaid you came out of the box in aggressive mode throwing around insults, then wonder why you got bitten.
Bit of advice when you are so dismissive of a nation as to not even give them a CAPITAL letter don't be surprised if they get upish.
Also while we are at 'freedom of speech' is a little more important than just to preserve you right to bandy about accusations and snide comments at an entire nation (alright at a historical tribal group 'Saxons' you what?) based on someting that may or may not have happened in a motor race.
As to story behind it, it should be investigated by the proper authorities not by the 'peoples tinternet court'.

p1ngu666
10-11-2007, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
Really who cares.

These people get paid lots of money to drive expensive cars.

F1 is just advertising, only really fast round a track.

they would be fast on the road too, but painful http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Taylortony
10-11-2007, 12:47 PM
It does not say what pressure they are store or transported at, one wonders if a they were simply missed when setting up or if the tyre gauge used was innacurate, they are renowned for going off cal...

the poster that hints at Hamilton being involved, well he does not check his own tyres.... I cannot see why they cannot have pressure gauges in the car for the tyres, we have had that for years in the airline industry where it tells you the tyre pressure and temp.. on such a critical part of the equation and allowing for weight any idea of how far off the desired settings they are would make sense, even though you can feel them.. after all they do every other type of telemetry, one more would not make a significant difference.