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ndelurey
06-25-2006, 10:46 PM
I'm not allowed to play M rated games, but The Two Thrones looks SOOOO Awesome! I would like to see idf anyone else thinks that ubisoft should do some editing/removing of nudity and blood and gore to make a T rated Version.

FireEmpress
06-25-2006, 11:02 PM
*snicker

The only naked thing in there are the stone statues.
And you can't even properly kill creatures.
When you do slash them tho, a cookie dough starts falling out.

If there is one game that is most kiddy friendly, it's this one.

The game might look awesome (in some ways), but when you start playing you'll feel like cutting your neck in misery http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


Welcome to the forums btw ^_^

Yolkboy
06-25-2006, 11:12 PM
As the Empress said, no nudity except of the stone statues, I don't even think they are "detailed" either but it's been so long that I don't really remember. You can turn off blood and gore for the "sand effect" and no dismemberment. Rather tame compared to some of the other games out there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif And welcome to the forums. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

likeitsme
06-25-2006, 11:12 PM
If you're in Europe, Australia or NZ, you'll get the watered down version of the game, where there is no blood, no decapitations and no proper Farah.

<sub>Seriously, if you're not going to have BLOOD with the sand creatures, make 'em DISAPPEAR like they did in SoT! FREAKIN' A! That annoys me!</sub>

Sorry, I'm complaining http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

But yeah, if you're a lucky American, then you can probably turn the blood off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Badar_Basim
06-25-2006, 11:13 PM
Eck save yourself the disapointment and dont get TT. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Yolkboy
06-25-2006, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by likeitsme:
If you're in Europe, Australia or NZ, you'll get the watered down version of the game, where there is no blood, no decapitations and no proper Farah.

<sub>Seriously, if you're not going to have BLOOD with the sand creatures, make 'em DISAPPEAR like they did in SoT! FREAKIN' A! That annoys me!</sub>

Sorry, I'm complaining http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

But yeah, if you're a lucky American, then you can probably turn the blood off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Wow, it's usually the other way around where we get the watered down version. I guess the only other way is to Import then. But every version has an half-baked Farah http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

yavanna_1986
06-25-2006, 11:57 PM
The game doesn't even have nudity... except for some ugly statues. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Get the game... at least you will see how the POP trilogy ends. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Welcome to the forum. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Black_Smoke2006
06-26-2006, 01:39 AM
It's not M-rated because of the nudity....



You gotta get the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Welcome to the forums http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Tarles7
06-26-2006, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by Badar_Basim:
Eck save yourself the disapointment and dont get TT. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
If you didnt like it,then it dosent mean that he`s not gonna like it too... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Welcome to the forum homes... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Dont ignore the stickies,or you``ll get banned soon! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And check out the chat thread,if you wanna be known... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-26-2006, 04:03 AM
the only nudity is 2 statues
u won't even notice they're nude unless ur a perv(like me for eghttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif)

Illuminate1992
06-26-2006, 01:08 PM
I didnt even notice it.

yenoh
06-26-2006, 01:22 PM
Let's just say I have NO idea why this game got an M rating http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It's less nudity in this game then in Cinderella, and Cinderella is kid friendly...right?
Just get the game, maybe you won't like it, but at least you'll see how the trilogy ends.

Prince.Reza
06-26-2006, 02:20 PM
People, didn't you download the mod that unlocks the hidden p0rn scenes of the sandmonsters with Kaileena?

Now that is why it got an M-rating... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Sandwarrior1990
06-26-2006, 02:30 PM
Maybe they stupidly made all the game covers before they changed the topless enemies to being non-nekkid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

So they were all rated M whilst being almost perfectly clean http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

ndelurey
06-26-2006, 06:42 PM
Thanks for the info everyone!
Now for the hard part-convincing my parents...
Hopefully they won't make me wait until I'm 18.
They probably will though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Yolkboy
06-26-2006, 09:09 PM
What happened to the youth that spent their own money to buy games so their parents won't know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

likeitsme
06-26-2006, 09:21 PM
@Emi: Cinderella is evil. Evil I tell you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Tell your parents that this game is so much more better rated and it focuses on the story more than the combat.
This game is literally educational and improves your reflexes through the speed kills.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

zgubilici
06-26-2006, 09:25 PM
You two are corrupting this young innocent soul http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

likeitsme
06-26-2006, 09:27 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Yolkboy
06-26-2006, 09:35 PM
Who me? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

FireEmpress
06-26-2006, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by ndelurey:
Thanks for the info everyone!
Now for the hard part-convincing my parents...
Hopefully they won't make me wait until I'm 18.
They probably will though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Even if you were 15, you can play this game legally.

How old r u now? 9-13? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

And for the 'convincing parents' part...

Threaten their lives...that's what I did when I was younger and wanted lots of money for games. Worked every time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yolkboy
06-26-2006, 10:56 PM
Just go and buy it, then open it really fast so they can't return it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

ndelurey
06-27-2006, 10:08 AM
Yolkboy-My parents would find some way around that, and I would be in BIG trouble. Probably the only way to get it for me would be for me to do the following steps:
1. Ask my dad go to GameCrazy W/ me. Convince him to say yes if needed
2. Ask the staff if is is a very bad M game. Hopefully, they say the same stuff you guys have just said. See what of the parts of the game, such as blood+gore can be turned off.
Ask the staff if it is much worse than a T-rated game.
3. If everything goes right, my dad will let me buy it.
4. Only my dad plays it for a while (Few days). I say nothing.
5. If he sees nothing too bad, he lets me play a little under supervision.
6. If everything goes perfect, I get the game.

FireEmpress-I am nearly thirteen. I will be after August.

likeitsme-Yeah, I've tried the reflexes and educatonal thing, but they tell me to read.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-27-2006, 10:23 AM
ndelurey,just show ur parents our postshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

yenoh
06-27-2006, 12:06 PM
@Ib: No no, Sleeping beatury is evil. Cinderella is justa crazy lunatic - couldn't hurt a fly. Honestly..

@Ndelurey: Like others have said, I think they removed all the "bad stuff" (if there even was any), from the game after it got rated M. I don't even think I saw blood ONCE in that game, and no nudity apart from those statues (which I also didn't notice). And I think that the staff in a videogamestore will say the same thing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Yolkboy
06-27-2006, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by ndelurey:
Yolkboy-My parents would find some way around that, and I would be in BIG trouble. Probably the only way to get it for me would be for me to do the following steps:
1. Ask my dad go to GameCrazy W/ me. Convince him to say yes if needed
2. Ask the staff if is is a very bad M game. Hopefully, they say the same stuff you guys have just said. See what of the parts of the game, such as blood+gore can be turned off.
Ask the staff if it is much worse than a T-rated game.
3. If everything goes right, my dad will let me buy it.
4. Only my dad plays it for a while (Few days). I say nothing.
5. If he sees nothing too bad, he lets me play a little under supervision.
6. If everything goes perfect, I get the game.

FireEmpress-I am nearly thirteen. I will be after August.

likeitsme-Yeah, I've tried the reflexes and educatonal thing, but they tell me to read.
Then play it at a friends house. You are 13, you can't tell your parents everything http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
And like Keitan (Dark Phoenix) said, just show you parents this thread. It will save you the trouble and speed of the process on getting your hands on the game. You have to play under supervision? That's no way to enjoy a game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Use the puzzle argument too. Observation and logic based puzzles are also apart of the game as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FableB
06-27-2006, 05:35 PM
One thing I dont understand.....is blood really affects personality?...how?...I have seen its affect on anyone till now...or maybe it has affected me in a way i havent noticed it....seeing blood makes you more violent?....

Yolkboy
06-27-2006, 07:23 PM
Violence effects people in different ways... PTS anyone? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

FireEmpress
06-28-2006, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by ndelurey:
1. Ask my dad go to GameCrazy W/ me. Convince him to say yes if needed
3. If everything goes right, my dad will let me buy it.
4. Only my dad plays it for a while (Few days). I say nothing.
5. If he sees nothing too bad, he lets me play a little under supervision.
6. If everything goes perfect, I get the game.

Wow...that's sad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

You are 13 and have no control over your life whatsoever?


likeitsme-Yeah, I've tried the reflexes and educatonal thing, but they tell me to read

Let me guess, coloring books? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

***
<span class="ev_code_RED">Killing pixels is bad, mmkay!
</span>
Tell your parents that shooting graphics in games will not necessarily make you into an antisocially homicidal psychopath.

I played GTA when I was underage, and I turned out just fine...
*smells the stench coming from the basement
Hmmm, gotta clean that thing one of these days.....

Yolkboy
06-28-2006, 04:45 AM
I liked the days when parents didn't really care as long as the child understood that games aren't real and don't necessarily relect real life http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Now parents are blowing the whole thing out of the water. If their "arguments" held true, the whole world would be messed up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Angelina_22
06-28-2006, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by FableB:
One thing I dont understand.....is blood really affects personality?...how?...I have seen its affect on anyone till now...or maybe it has affected me in a way i havent noticed it....seeing blood makes you more violent?....

Blood in itself won't make you a violent person, I mean gosh, during all the months I worked at an animals hospital I was exposed to blood on a daily basis...often LOTS of it during surgery and such. And then there was of course the year I spent in nurse education, I mean we even took blood samples from people there.
Seeing alot of blood does however make you get very used to it, after a while you don't react towards it at all.

And I guess this is what people are concerned about when it comes to violent games, that kids will get so used to seeing violence that they don't think twice or react when seeing it.

I do think that there are some games who are quite over the top, POP is not one of them though, at least I don't think so.

I think that when kids have reached a certain age, where they can see a difference between games and reality, the parents should trust their kids enough to believe that they won't turn into criminals just by playing a certain game. It's important that parents can keep the right balance, I think there's a difference between being a responsible parent and keeping your kids in a too short leesh.
What is it they say, if you don't let your kids out the front door, they will sneak out the backdoor...

What I don't agree with though is when you see really small kids sitting there playing M rated and 18+ games...like I said, they should have reached an age when they should be able to separate fiction from reality.

Phreaky_McGeek
06-28-2006, 09:29 AM
^Agreeing with Angelina... My cousin bought Warrior Within at the age of six and is no different from any other small kid I know, only he might even be more mature than others.

likeitsme
06-28-2006, 07:48 PM
Well, to be honest *puts on armour* if I had a 13 year old son, I would DEFINATELY not want him to play GTA or Warrior Within... Those games ARE violent... and because they're so long, you can't play them in moderation, so yeah, I'd rather have my 13 year old reading a book or playing basketball outside...

But as for this game... Two Thrones is simple and NOT violent at all... Just like Sands of Time... And Warrior Within CAN be an acception since you can turn off the blood in it.

But Two Thrones... Seriously... Just tell your dad to read this... It's barely any more violent that Barbie Princess Horse Adventures...

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Not... that I've... played that...</pre>http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

And besides, games in moderation DO improve your reflexes and exercise your periphial vision. If you want to efficiently drive a car in the future, a book isn't going to do that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

kew414
06-28-2006, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by likeitsme:
If you're in Europe, Australia or NZ, you'll get the watered down version of the game, where there is no blood, no decapitations and no proper Farah.


I swear I saw blood come out when I decapitated sand monsters.

Angelina_22
06-28-2006, 08:19 PM
*Takes out her slingshot and some nuts - the armor working out for you?http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif Oh speaking of game influence...I must have been playing way too much Zelda...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif*

Well as for GTA, I never played it so can't really say anything on that matter. About WW however, since the blood can be turned off I think it's not that big of a deal, even if yeah some of the kills do look kind of...violent. And I didn't think it was necessary at all, I play games for the story and the gameplay, not the gore. But everyones taste are different of course.
Well I agree, 13 year olds should read books and be outside playing basketball and what not, but I don't think playing video games have to rule out these things, as a parent you just have to put your foot down and make sure your kid does not spend an insane amount of hours with videogames causing him/her to miss out on other things life has to offer.

I mean I've been playing videogames since I was like 8 or something, when I was around that age I played alot of Castlevania, but I did not turn into a violent person with a whip because of it...ahem...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

He he, well seriously, during my early teens I also played for instance Mortal Kombat alot, which are 18+ games, and the finishing scenes are not exactly nice...however I was always able of telling fiction from reality and I would not say that it had any bad impact on me. I mean these days, meanwhile I can be vicious while playing videogames, in real life I can't even kill a fly...seriously I can't!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
*Mosquitos however...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif*

My twin cousins are right now 14, and they do play 18+ games sometimes, and they did play WW when they were 13. From what I can tell it has not affected them in a bad way though, they're perfectly normal teenagers, actually very nice and well mannered ones.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I say that if the parents do their best to teach the kids values and all that, they should be able to play certain games without turning into criminals. Also movies these days which are rated 11+ can be quite gory and violent...

Sarah_J_F
07-03-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by ndelurey:
Yolkboy-My parents would find some way around that, and I would be in BIG trouble. Probably the only way to get it for me would be for me to do the following steps:
1. Ask my dad go to GameCrazy W/ me. Convince him to say yes if needed
2. Ask the staff if is is a very bad M game. Hopefully, they say the same stuff you guys have just said. See what of the parts of the game, such as blood+gore can be turned off.
Ask the staff if it is much worse than a T-rated game.
3. If everything goes right, my dad will let me buy it.
4. Only my dad plays it for a while (Few days). I say nothing.
5. If he sees nothing too bad, he lets me play a little under supervision.
6. If everything goes perfect, I get the game.


Ndelurey, I know this kid from church €" 12 almost 13, just like you €" who plays any video games he wants without his parents checking on them. Sure, it€s nice that he has that freedom, but when he starts punching at my brothers€ (and his other friends€) privates and threatening their lives with moves from the computer games he plays, something tells me that either this kid isn€t the type who can watch or play games with violence without getting violent himself, or he plays the wrong type of games! Either way, if his parents were checking and/or restricting his games (as they should be), he would not be getting this aggressive!

What I am trying to say is this: your parents might seem a little too strict, but they are only protective for your own good. In fact, I think more parents should show as much concern as yours do€¦
And I wish people on this board wouldn€t try to get Ndelurey to disobey his parents!! I hate to be harsh, but it truly isn€t your place to encourage someone to contradict their parents (as long as the parents aren€t doing anything to harm the child, as is the case). I have not played The Two Thrones yet, (as I€m waiting to get a better computer), but, if as you say, there is nothing objectionable in it, I have no doubt that Ndelurey€s parents will let him buy and play it. Even if they will not, however, he still has to obey his parents, and it is very wrong of someone to encourage him to disobey them (no matter how unreasonably strict you believe them to be).


My mother, also, restricts some of my brothers' games: for instance, she will not let them play The Warrior Within, though I am allowed to do so. Whether they believe she is wrong or not, they will obey her just because she said so.

anita_nagu
07-03-2006, 06:51 PM
Angelina, I remember those Mortal Kombat finishing scenes... And they were much worse than any Warrior Within scene! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif The first PoP (1990) was a bit "gore" too, with those traps and battles. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

You´re right. Violence in video games is funny because they´re just games, not reality. And I like it. But you must make the difference between videogames and reality.

Greetings from Spain!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif