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MrQBerrt
12-16-2005, 01:33 PM
I consider purchasing the CH rudder pedals now and then (looks like it wont be this year, the gaming budget has already been exhauted) and I'm curious how they work.

Are the 2 pedals linked, so that when you push one forward, the other one comes backwards?

Do the pedals automatically center? If so, is this done with springs? If not how do you find center (e.g. an indent)?

zoinksu52
12-16-2005, 01:46 PM
Are the 2 pedals linked, so that when you push one forward, the other one comes backwards?

Do the pedals automatically center? (e.g. an indent)?

yes. yes.

pics of the pedals opened up
http://www.gennadich.com/posts/134/index.html

they also pivot like gas and brake pedals. and its just like their joysticks - incredibly durable for plastic.

MrQBerrt
12-16-2005, 02:00 PM
Thanks,

and great link.

Stigler_9_JG52
12-16-2005, 03:29 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

CH PRO Pedals work that way. But the "regular" CH Pedals are just two lever pedals that rotate up and down as you trod on them, independent of each other. The input can cancel itself out...but it's not the same as having two pedals that rotate about a point between them, or the action that has one moving forward and pushing the other backward.

Wilburnator
12-16-2005, 03:58 PM
Any "CH pedals" you're ever likely to come across are going to be the Pro pedals. I bought mine 4 years ago and they were the only kind offered by CH then, and it seems now.

slo123
12-17-2005, 12:08 AM
are there any cheap pedals that work ok and if not what the price range of an "ok" set?

FoolTrottel
12-17-2005, 05:23 AM
are there any cheap pedals that work ok
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/Rudder1a.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

zoinksu52
12-17-2005, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by slo123:
are there any cheap pedals that work ok and if not what the price range of an "ok" set?

homemade or these
http://www.provantage.com/buy-22043985-ch-pro-pedals-usb-shopping.htm

Bearcat99
12-17-2005, 12:38 PM
Provantage is great. The prices are good and the service is excellent. CH pedals are the best out there for the price.

notamuppet
12-18-2005, 12:53 PM
here is another! http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/notmuppet/rudder4.jpg
As there is a LOT of interest in rudder pedals, can we have a sticky with all the options, benefits and other info? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MrQBerrt
12-19-2005, 09:51 AM
Nice homemade rudders there. Now if only I still had my erector set.

Lolsav
12-19-2005, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by notamuppet:
here is another! http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/notmuppet/rudder4.jpg
As there is a LOT of interest in rudder pedals, can we have a sticky with all the options, benefits and other info? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

This is brilliant. Can you show more details of this home made artwork? Like some more angles and details of the "tricky" parts?

Thx a lot in advance.

blakduk
12-19-2005, 04:15 PM
I agree that a sticky for this would be a good idea- I made a set of pedals based on FoolTrottel's design and they work great (i did find however that i didnt need to worry about the rubber bands to help keep it centred).
I also suggest you check out Tully's guide to make them work with your joystick http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/sticks.htm
The joystick i used was an old Microsoft Sidewinder stick which became the default stick for the game- if it hadnt been for Tully's guide i wouldnt have been able to figure out how to correct it. Its important to note that the only way to set your joystick parameters in the game if they are not recognised as the default stick is via the config file.
The other thing to consider with FoolTrottel's design is that it can be a bit difficult to fit under the desk. My rig looks made to measure as it JUST fits under a bar running at the back of my computer desk- a happy accident that looks like capable design http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
BTW- i refuse to post pictures as my carpentry skills are cr*p and my effort looks really dodgy. It works okay but my flying skills still suck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

VF51_Flatspin
12-19-2005, 08:29 PM
I've got a set of CH Pro USB pedals and love them. I've noticed on occasion they "stick" though. Not mechanically - they're completely sound in the category, but I'll have my feet off them and there will still be some rudder in. But a swift "kick" either left or right rudder will make it re-center again.

Philipscdrw
12-20-2005, 08:41 AM
I have the CHProducts Pro Rudder Pedals, secondhand from Ebay, gameport version (unfortunately).

The pedals are connected by a beam, so pushing the left pedal forward brings the right one back. They have springs to return them to centre and notch when in the centre position (which I don't like too much. Real aircraft don't notch like that!)

notamuppet
12-20-2005, 03:11 PM
[/QUOTE]

This is brilliant. Can you show more details of this home made artwork? Like some more angles and details of the "tricky" parts?

Thx a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! I will take some more detailed photos and put some notes on them over Christmas.
Bye for now

Corsair-D
12-20-2005, 05:39 PM
Before you rip apart a perfectly fine joy stick, check this out.
http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/howto/rudtoe.htm
If you do not have a game port, look at this.http://www.trianglecables.com/usbtojoydbad.html

notamuppet
12-26-2005, 09:46 AM
Hello. As promised here are some more pix. All the metal is from steel shelving and parts from a DIY store. I had to take the TV pivot apart to allow the front bar to be bolted to it. The bolts that connect the connecting angles to the front and rear bars have washers between the angles and bars to allow the parts to slide smoothly. The bolts have friction nuts on them as the movement of the parts could allow them to become loose. The boltA that connects the clip to the back bar is slightly loose to allow the clip to rotate, and bolt B is tight. It was fun working out how to do it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif As for destroying a good stick it cost me 10! http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/notmuppet/PEDAL5.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/notmuppet/PEDAL4.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/notmuppet/PEDAL2.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/notmuppet/PEDAL1.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/notmuppet/PEDAL3.jpg [/IMG]