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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:08 AM
I saw in some post that there is a converter cable to convert gameport devices to USB plugs. Where do I get one and would I also need software too?? I can't find that post anymore. I want to do it because I'm convinced that my Audigy ( first generation Audigy ) sound card will work better with sound and not cause as much sound stutter if it has less to do. I want it to only have to work with the sound from now on. I'll let the joystick signals go through something else!! I may be wrong about getting fewer stutters but it would be worth it for me to find out. It may even improve overall frame rate, but I'm not getting my hope up too high. But it's worth a try ain't it??

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:08 AM
I saw in some post that there is a converter cable to convert gameport devices to USB plugs. Where do I get one and would I also need software too?? I can't find that post anymore. I want to do it because I'm convinced that my Audigy ( first generation Audigy ) sound card will work better with sound and not cause as much sound stutter if it has less to do. I want it to only have to work with the sound from now on. I'll let the joystick signals go through something else!! I may be wrong about getting fewer stutters but it would be worth it for me to find out. It may even improve overall frame rate, but I'm not getting my hope up too high. But it's worth a try ain't it??

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin - 1755

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:46 AM
just do a google search for USB joystick converter and you will find lots of sites with items like this.

http://www.usbcable.com/47-1932.htm






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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:44 AM
I notice sneakypete's USB page mentions Windows98 compatibility.

Be careful if you're a computor newbie because Windows is notorious for being difficult to set up if you have anything not 'standard'. These convertors (analog to USB) may not work in WindowsXp. Find one that is or forget it would be my advice.

I have a buddy who knows this stuff. Right now he is back running Windows98 because his Brand New Microsoft Joystick won't run on his Brand New Microsoft Operating SSystem (sic he he), and Monolithic Microsoft won't write software to fix it. The Microsoft boys don't care about their own new hardware, so can you imagine what they think of your old stuff.....

Luck buddy

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:59 AM
Hey Mort,
Try RadioShack and their 'Game Port USB Adapter'
part #26-164 or #260-0164.

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F004%5F002%5F012%5F000&product%5Fid=26%2D164

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:03 PM
What kind of joystick do you have, and what operating system are you using? I've bought some USB converters from

http://www.cableguyusa.com

and they have a four mode converter available, that should increase your chances of making this work. Just remember, that anytime you're trying to do any kind of "USB to X" conversion, a) Windows has to support it and b) the program has to support it.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:11 PM
you can buy USB adapters at just about any computer store or Radio Shack.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:20 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have Windows 98SE so I should have no trouble. I will probaby try for the Radio Shack item the one guy suggested. Do any of you agree with my theory that all the extra "joystick signal handling" going on in my sound card too much extra burden?? and adds too much to the communication going through it's PCI port?? And that leaving it to do only sound duties will/might improve sound stutter issues??

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin - 1755

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 07:16 AM
Let us know how it goes

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 07:48 AM
mortoma wrote:
- Do any
- of you agree with my theory that all the extra
- "joystick signal handling" going on in my sound card
- too much extra burden?? and adds too much to the
- communication going through it's PCI port?? And that
- leaving it to do only sound duties will/might
- improve sound stutter issues??


I would say that switching to USB from the Audigy gameport will have little to no effect on your stuttering problems or framerates.

In the case of the old analog gameports, such as the ones on most ISA soundcards, switching to a dedicated gamecard, especially a digital one, could and would do a lot to boost framerates and provide much better joystick tracking and accuracy.

However, with the advent of the PCI soundcard and the built-in digital gameports that came with them, those days have long since passed. Hooking a gameport joystick up to one of these cards will have no measurable impact on performance either way, assuming the card is properly configured to begin with.

If it's not properly configured to begin with, removing a gameport joystick isn't likely to help matters at all, as the main problem (an improperly configured sound card) will still exist.

You can try it if you want, but I can basically guarantee you that it's not going to help one bit, and is most likely a (small) waste of money to buy the adapter and try.

In other words, your stuttering and sound problems are most likely caused by something other than your joystick hookup, so changing that isn't going to do a thing to solve whatever problem exists in your system that's messing up the sound. My advice would be to try and track down that issue and solve it before throwing any money at an adapter.

And if you do find that you must switch to a USB interface, I'd suggest simply taking the money you'd spend on the adapter and putting it toward a "real" USB joystick instead.

Message Edited on 10/29/0306:59AM by BinaryFalcon

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 11:50 AM
mortoma wrote:
- I saw in some post that there is a converter cable
- to convert gameport devices to USB plugs. Where do I
- get one and would I also need software too?? I can't
- find that post anymore. I want to do it because I'm
- convinced that my Audigy ( first generation Audigy )
- sound card will work better with sound and not cause
- as much sound stutter if it has less to do. I want
- it to only have to work with the sound from now on.
- I'll let the joystick signals go through something
- else!! I may be wrong about getting fewer stutters
- but it would be worth it for me to find out. It may
- even improve overall frame rate, but I'm not getting
- my hope up too high. But it's worth a try ain't it??


If your goal by switching to USB is to get better performance for your joystick: you are probobly going about it the right way. This is partially opinion: but USB blows compared.

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 12:20 PM
Wonder if it would work for me, I have CH F16 combat Stick and CH Pro throttle game port versions.. if they could be converted to usb versions../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 02:00 PM
If it's an FFB joystick then you will lose the feedback through the adapter w2hich may also include centering tensions.


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