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gkll
04-22-2005, 12:16 AM
I almost think I might prefer the IX... was it nearly as good IRL? Climb? Top speed? My books have nothing on this.

And is it true that there were canny brits in g suits flying XIVs in mid 44? That has to have been the top combo for the war...

Looking forward to the patch.

gkll
04-22-2005, 12:16 AM
I almost think I might prefer the IX... was it nearly as good IRL? Climb? Top speed? My books have nothing on this.

And is it true that there were canny brits in g suits flying XIVs in mid 44? That has to have been the top combo for the war...

Looking forward to the patch.

Hristos
04-22-2005, 12:54 AM
Top combo of the war was JV 44 in Me 262s.

Be sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WOLFMondo
04-22-2005, 01:05 AM
The XIV had a better ROC than the IX even with the boost at 25lbs. Remember, it diminishes with altitude.

Dolemite-
04-22-2005, 01:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hristos:
Top combo of the war was JV 44 in Me 262s.

Be sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For attacking slow 4 engined bombers.

Monty_Thrud
04-22-2005, 01:34 AM
Heres a link on the 25lb Mk IX (http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/jl165.html)...i would definately prefer the increased boost on the IX, didnt the XIV have 21 lb with 150 fuel?

Hristos
04-22-2005, 02:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dolemite-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hristos:
Top combo of the war was JV 44 in Me 262s.

Be sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For attacking slow 4 engined bombers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, that's why 262 is banned from most servers. Nah, you are not that naive.

Can you say - dominance ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dolemite-
04-22-2005, 02:10 AM
Well, considering B-17s are not flyable... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hristos
04-22-2005, 02:41 AM
But of course. Today's jets are also good only for hunting heavy bombers.

For air to air combat, they still use Spitfire replicas :-P

Dolemite-
04-22-2005, 02:55 AM
Even 262 pilots were taught to "run away" from enemy fighter planes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Art-J
04-22-2005, 03:16 AM
I'd prefer XIV because of its (warning! girlish argument!) LOOK http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I don't know how many mph it is faster/slower at what altitude and I don't care so much. It just has this brutal, mean, bad-a$$ look, which I like more than clean, soft, dull line of Merlin-powered variants. My opinion, of course, no flames intended!

Regards.

Hristos
04-22-2005, 03:54 AM
262 vs XIV (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=262&word2=XIV)

Goering's on the phone from Freiburg
Says Willie's done quite a job
Hitler's on the phone from Berlin
Says I'm gonna make you a star
My Captain Von Ondine is your next patrol
A flight of English bombers across the canal
After twelve they'll all be here
I think you know the job
They hung there dependant from the sky
Like some heavy metal fruit
These bombers are ripe and ready to tilt
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Must they live that I might die
In a G-load disaster from the rate of climb
Sometimes I'd faint and be lost to our side
But there's no reward for failure - but death
So watch me in mirrors keep in the glidepath
Get me through these radars, no, I cannot fail
While my great silver slugs are eager to feed
I can't fail - No, not now
When twenty five bombers wait ripe
They hung there dependant from the sky
Like some heavy metal fruit
These bombers are ripe and ready to tilt
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Must they live that I might die
Me-262 prince of turbojet
Junker's Jumo 004
Blasts from clustered R4M quartets in my snout
And see these English planes go burn
Well, you be my witness, how red were the skies
When the fortresses flew for the very last time
It was dark over Westphalia
In April of '45
They hung there dependant from the sky
Like some heavy metal fruit
These bombers are ripe and ready to tilt
Must these Englishmen live that I might die
Must they live that I might die
Must these Englishmen live that I might die...Junker's jommo 004
Bombers at 12 o'clock high

http://www.christymarx.com/ledger/262.jpg

gkll
04-22-2005, 04:00 AM
"And is it true that there were canny brits in g suits flying XIVs in mid 44? That has to have been the top combo for the war..."

top &lt;prop&gt; combo... otherwise we're haggling over p80s in Italy.

They were using g suits in mid 40?

SlickStick
04-22-2005, 07:00 AM
No prop plane in this game can hang with a well-flown Me-262. It's too fast, dives to 1000km/h and has 2 or 4 30mm cannons.

Thankfully, it only takes one or two random .303s or .50s to set their engines on fire. To counter a jet, who will almost always use B and Z tactics (as any 262 pilot that turns is usually a dead pilot) you just have to be patient.

Keep darting away from the incoming jet, who will be going to fast to turn, like fish do when darting away from an incoming spear. Try to keep your speed up and try to lure him into thinking he can get you on this pass, if he makes one more turn.

Then, it's a quick wingover and every now and then you'll get an opportunity for a snap shot as he goes by. A couple of engine pepperings and he'll be RTB with engines on fire. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

As for the IX vs the XIV, I am going to be one high-flying XIV driver. With a speed of 712km/h @ 5,000m and still having the maneuverability to out turn 109s and FWs, she will be a great counter to the LW pilots who fly up in the "Fraidy Catmosphere". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I'll still use the Mk. VIII CW for low to medium altitude sorties, but ya never know...since the Mk. XIV is faster and turns almost as good as a VIII or IX, maybe I'll just make up the difference down low by applying a little grey matter to the situation and use the XIV exclusively.

Slickun
04-22-2005, 07:21 AM
Blue Oyster Cult's "ME-262", hey ?

G suits were a feature on many allied types in 1944.

VW-IceFire
04-22-2005, 07:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gkll:
I almost think I might prefer the IX... was it nearly as good IRL? Climb? Top speed? My books have nothing on this.

And is it true that there were canny brits in g suits flying XIVs in mid 44? That has to have been the top combo for the war...

Looking forward to the patch. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
XIV would still out perform the 24lb IX/XVI models. In pretty much all areas but at higher altitudes and in climb rate especially.

p1ngu666
04-22-2005, 09:34 AM
25lb VIII would tempt me, dont really get on well with IX.

NEED gladiatory with 25lb boost tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Monty_Thrud
04-22-2005, 10:37 AM
AH!...now i get the question, thought you meant 25lb boost in the IX or the XIV..ooookkk!...i'll have both...Ta! vedy much like, i've got a soft spot for the IX but if push comes to shove, i'll have the XIV because its new...however...we dont even know if its flyable sooo...i'll have da Tempest http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif