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F16_Neo
03-02-2006, 11:52 AM
Background:
In IL2FB-series there is a function called devicelink. The purpose is to serve as an interface to transfer instrument data between the sim and other software (or hardware drivers), for example for use in "real" instruments.

Problem:
Because of the risk of people using it as a way to cheat, the current devicelink-interface only work offline.

Solution:
Why not make it up to the server-host to decide whether this interface should be active, and to define which functions that would be available.

If its not feasible for IL2FB/PF at this stage I wish it atleast could be implemented in BoB!

Pitbuilding seems like a growing hobby these days.

Any thoughts?

/F16_Neo

F16_Petter
03-02-2006, 12:05 PM
Yes, this is a must!
If they dont fix this i will feel so frustrated..

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For me, Online flying is 90% of the fun!
And why even put time and energy in building a simpit if you cannot use it online?

If there is a serverside option it shouldnt be any trouble..

Like today there is a server side option for external view...

Imagine if external views was not allowed in multiplayer flying???

(interesting thought)

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Basically I say hooray for any options you can get to be server side assignable.

The more the merrier!

WWSensei
03-02-2006, 12:16 PM
Server side option wouldn't work in the current config. Devicelink would talk to the local client, not the server. Devicelink needs to be re-done to address many aspects but allowing for an online ability should be done at some point.

F16_Petter
03-02-2006, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by WWSensei:
Server side option wouldn't work in the current config. Devicelink would talk to the local client, not the server. Devicelink needs to be re-done to address many aspects but allowing for an online ability should be done at some point.

I agree, but if the server set rights for local client, usedevicelink=true or usedevicelink=false the devicelink could not communicate with local client...

Or even more detailed, what functions/channels/instruments that was set to usedevicelink=true.

In that way, you could perhaps allow certain data from a selected number of instruments to be activated, or allowed or disallowed...

usedevicelink_airspeed=true
usedevicelink_fuel=true
usedevicelink_xpos=false
usedevicelink_ypos=false

etc etc...

Im not an expert, but I wish we could get some answers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TheGozr
03-02-2006, 01:28 PM
Good thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AKA_TAGERT
03-02-2006, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by F16_Neo:
Background:
In IL2FB-series there is a function called devicelink. The purpose is to serve as an interface to transfer instrument data between the sim and other software (or hardware drivers), for example for use in "real" instruments.

Problem:
Because of the risk of people using it as a way to cheat, the current devicelink-interface only work offline.

Solution:
Why not make it up to the server-host to decide whether this interface should be active, and to define which functions that would be available.

If its not feasible for IL2FB/PF at this stage I wish it atleast could be implemented in BoB!

Pitbuilding seems like a growing hobby these days.

Any thoughts?

/F16_Neo Agreed 100%

MrQBerrt
03-02-2006, 02:30 PM
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AndyJoyhill
03-06-2006, 06:38 AM
I support this wholeheartedly. ALL that is required is a single line in conf.ini for example "onlinedevicelinkexport = true" that when set on the host machine would allow the clients to utilize their devicelink exports. This is a BIG DEAL for some of us. I would also suggest that whenever a player joins an export-enabled server he gets a message "export allowed" so that there would be no question of when someone could possibly be cheating.

If you want to take the idea a bit further you could have an option such as "onlinedevicelinkexport = restricted", which would only allow specific exports per plane type so that for example those that lack artificial horizon wouldn't have pitch information available.

There are relatively few pit builders around, but I don't think implementing this feature would be any trouble at all. It's just a matter of allowing it, all the functionality is already there. I would at least like to hear some kind of an explanation for not allowing the host to set the feature, since I can't think of any good reasons. Many hosts already offer things like external views in good faith, one more host controlled feature shouldn't make that much of an issue.

F19_Orheim
03-06-2006, 07:22 AM
A must! I do not plan to build a pit.. ever(!!!)

However using devicelink to be able to view the gauges on another computer is something I have wanted to do for a long time. So a few days ago I tried it out with my laptop next to my gaming rig. Wow, this worked excellently. At last I could decipher those hard to read Soviet and Japanese instruments by using 109 gauges.. Metrics yeaa!

little did I know that this doesn't work online and beeing a 100% online simmer, I deleted devicelink.... regretfully.


Would love to be able to use this feature online...

AndyJoyhill
03-07-2006, 06:08 AM
Orheim, having the gauges displayed on a separate screen is as much a first step towards pit building as is the denial you're in right now. There's no need to hide in the closet, really. Some relatively respected individuals have publicly admitted to being pit builders and they're not taking too much flak for it. Well, actually they are, but at least they're surrounded by plywood or aluminum and are relatively safe from the outside world once they wear their earphones.

OLEG WE WANT ONLINE DEVICELINK AS A SERVERSIDE OPTION!

F16_Petter
03-07-2006, 12:48 PM
How do you say please in russian?
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F19_Orheim
03-07-2006, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by AndyJoyhill:
Orheim, having the gauges displayed on a separate screen is as much a first step towards pit building as is the denial you're in right now. There's no need to hide in the closet, really. Some relatively respected individuals have publicly admitted to being pit builders and they're not taking too much flak for it. Well, actually they are, but at least they're surrounded by plywood or aluminum and are relatively safe from the outside world once they wear their earphones.

OLEG WE WANT ONLINE DEVICELINK AS A SERVERSIDE OPTION!

I am not living in denial, I am living in a small apartment with a wife LOL..

Cred to pit builders, just not for me

BaldieJr
03-07-2006, 01:12 PM
add one more vote.

F19_Orheim
03-07-2006, 06:57 PM
Baldie mate, Earl has just started to air in sweden.... most fun in a looooong timehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

F16_Petter
03-14-2006, 02:12 PM
B-U-M-P

rnzoli
03-14-2006, 03:37 PM
Agreed as well.

Oleg, budite tak dobri! (or something like that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

TC_Stele
03-14-2006, 06:27 PM
Online action is where it's at. It would definately give the great oppurtunity for this guy to use it online.

http://www.taffe.de/downloads/il2videowmf9.avi