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jeffmorgan_947
09-11-2010, 02:40 AM
For all the time and dedication spent during the long development of "Storm of War",I wonder what the financial rewards will be for the Maddox group.

Does anyone know what the total number of registed members there are in the IL-2 forums,?.
If we consider that, plus all the other fringe air combat related forums,plus a curious general public, it may be possible that SOW would be one of the top grossing computer games of all time?

What sales figures were there for Sturmovik/Pacific fighters/1946 ? I would like to think that our combat flight fraternity represents the game thats top of the hill ! JM.

ROXunreal
09-11-2010, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by jeffmorgan_947:
Does anyone know what the total number of registed members there are in the IL-2 forums,?.
If we consider that, plus all the other fringe air combat related forums,plus a curious general public, it may be possible that SOW would be one of the top grossing computer games of all time?


Given that most people who are not into air simulations have never heard of SOW:BOB, I find it next to impossible that it will gross out nearly as much as some long anticipated "hit" games have...

K_Freddie
09-11-2010, 05:33 AM
I think Oleg and 1C are very much aware of this, and I'm sure they've planned the 'sim engine' for a much wider market.
1C are also developing Red Orchestra - 2, and I have heard titbits of combining the grunts with the flyboys in a massively big war game.

This of course will be of great interest to the military

I think they've widened their market appeal, resulting in a lot more $$$
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Insuber
09-11-2010, 05:34 AM
Five million copies of the different Il2 incarnations was the figure circulating 4 or 5 years ago. I cannot tell anything about the reliability of this information, unfortunately (it was told by an Ubi forum moderator), but it makes sense if we think to the following renewed interested around this genre (Blakhawk, RoF, LockOn, BoP).

Cheers,
Insuber

p-11.cAce
09-11-2010, 07:53 AM
This of course will be of great interest to the military

As much as I wish you were right, I think if the mil is going after any sim it will be a DCS product.
http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/img/technology/A10C/Cockpit.jpg

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/img/technology/A10C/HUD-2.jpg

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/img/technology/A10C/Weapons.jpg

jensenpark
09-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Man, those are nice screenshots.

I tell ya', if Chuck Norris flew, he'd be in a A-10.

Chivas
09-11-2010, 12:16 PM
SOW series will probably be the highest grossing WW2 combat flight sim ever, but it will never come close to "one of the top grossing computer games of all time"

Chivas
09-11-2010, 12:24 PM
SimHq seems like it has a good crosssection of simmers and if you look at the forum archives it appears WW2 combat flight sims draws more interest than Jet combat sims.

Romanator21
09-11-2010, 12:26 PM
I tell ya', if Chuck Norris flew, he'd be in a A-10.

You know there is a Chuck quote that is something along the lines of, "Chuck Norris invented spoons, because using knifes was too easy", or " in an average living room are 732 objects that Chuck Norris can use to kill you, including the room itself."

Considering his resourcefulness, I think he'd bust open tanks with a Ba.65. The four Breda .50 cals would be practically useless, so he would have to spit at the enemy, with much greater success. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But that's just my opinion...

ElAurens
09-11-2010, 12:27 PM
Indeed Chivas.

I wonder how many copies of The Sims has been sold?

Far far more than any flight simulator, military or civilian.

Not to mention all the FPS shooters on consoles that are the real industry cash cows.

K_Freddie
09-11-2010, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by p-11.cAce:
As much as I wish you were right, I think if the mil is going after any sim it will be a DCS product.
Nice pics, I'm thinking of the whole air/ground (maybe navy) game in one sim engine package.
This will enable all 3 forces to operate on a single, good cheap platform.

Maybe I'm wrong cos 'Russian products are inferior' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Daiichidoku
09-11-2010, 02:08 PM
IIRC, 1C has had income flow from SoW for a number of years now....making it longer to get finished, but also insuring more cash to put back into a better end product

jeffmorgan_947
09-11-2010, 08:49 PM
Those A10 sceenshots are they from " Lockon " ? I dont remember that desert landscape quality in the original. JM

Tooz_69GIAP
09-11-2010, 09:37 PM
They're from the forthcoming DCS series A-10C release.

Sillius_Sodus
09-12-2010, 11:11 AM
If you have Chuck Noris, you don't need A-10's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Choctaw111
09-12-2010, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
Man, those are nice screenshots.

I tell ya', if Chuck Norris flew, he'd be in a A-10.

He didn't fly, but he was in the Air Force http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

WTE_Galway
09-12-2010, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Indeed Chivas.

I wonder how many copies of The Sims has been sold?

...

Not to mention all the FPS shooters on consoles that are the real industry cash cows.


Sims II passed the 100 million mark back in 2008. Even at $50 a game that $5 billion in retail turnover. Plus the Sims franchise is renowned for being able to sell dozens of smallish add-ons of furniture or clothing at $30 a go.

In 2009, out of the top 7 PC games sold, 3 of the 7 where Sims games or addons.

The reason is quite simple. PC game programmers, software executives and game reviewers are all drawn from the same "young guy FPS/action/war" market niche and that is what they cater for. They see FPS as "cool" and look on games like the Sims with disdain. That leaves 80% of the market wide open for games like Sims.

Same with consoles. While Xbox and Playstation fight over the "young guy FPS/action/war" niche market and struggle to turn a good profit the biggest selling console World wide is the Nintendo DS with the Wii close second and Mario Kart must be close to taking the record for oldest game still selling a version in large quantities.

Whilst my daughters teenage unemployed stoner friends argue the benefits of xbox versus playstation I know many middle aged executives that would never consider playing Halo of Farcry that don't mind ten bowling or golf on the Wii.

staticline1
09-12-2010, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
IIRC, 1C has had income flow from SoW for a number of years now....making it longer to get finished, but also insuring more cash to put back into a better end product

How are they receiving income from SOW? Who's using the engine, and is the engine finished?

jarink
09-13-2010, 03:41 PM
I'm sure SoW's sales will pale besides heavy hitters like the upcoming (Sep 21st release date) Civilization 5 (http://www.civilization5.com/). All previous versions of Civ together have "over 9 million units sold worldwide". I can't see a niche product like a flight sim (even a great flight sim) coming close to it.

rfxcasey
09-13-2010, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
Indeed Chivas.

I wonder how many copies of The Sims has been sold?

...

Not to mention all the FPS shooters on consoles that are the real industry cash cows.


Sims II passed the 100 million mark back in 2008. Even at $50 a game that $5 billion in retail turnover. Plus the Sims franchise is renowned for being able to sell dozens of smallish add-ons of furniture or clothing at $30 a go.

In 2009, out of the top 7 PC games sold, 3 of the 7 where Sims games or addons.

The reason is quite simple. PC game programmers, software executives and game reviewers are all drawn from the same "young guy FPS/action/war" market niche and that is what they cater for. They see FPS as "cool" and look on games like the Sims with disdain. That leaves 80% of the market wide open for games like Sims.

Same with consoles. While Xbox and Playstation fight over the "young guy FPS/action/war" niche market and struggle to turn a good profit the biggest selling console World wide is the Nintendo DS with the Wii close second and Mario Kart must be close to taking the record for oldest game still selling a version in large quantities.

Whilst my daughters teenage unemployed stoner friends argue the benefits of xbox versus playstation I know many middle aged executives that would never consider playing Halo of Farcry that don't mind ten bowling or golf on the Wii. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like someone knows how to Google. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I bet SOW isn't even going to come close to say, Halo Reach but then again it's a new generation of gamers out there so who knows, even Halo might be dying.

Still have to agree with the whole Sims thing. But that being said, what about WOW or Final Fantasy Online. Those have to rank up there with the top dogs as far as PC titles are concerned.

M_Gunz
09-14-2010, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by staticline1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
IIRC, 1C has had income flow from SoW for a number of years now....making it longer to get finished, but also insuring more cash to put back into a better end product

How are they receiving income from SOW? Who's using the engine, and is the engine finished? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

IL2 4.x FM changes are a direct result of work on SOW. Not saying it counts but...

Treetop64
09-14-2010, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jensenpark:
Man, those are nice screenshots.

I tell ya', if Chuck Norris flew, he'd be in a A-10.

He didn't fly, but he was in the Air Force http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Chuck Norris built the Air Force and everything in it.

Chuck Norris's roundhouse kick defeated the former Soviet Union.

There is no such thing as evolution; all living things exist because Chuck Norris allows them to live.

Also, Chuck Norris can divide by zero.