View Full Version : Like riddles? Try one-armed man uses two joysticks....

10-06-2006, 07:47 AM
...at the same time!?

He he! I've been busy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Flying one-handed is certainly a tad on the tricky side http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif - but doing it without taking the hand away from the stick was well nigh impossible - and must've killed me dozens of times.
I changed to the past tense because I've changed things in my favour - and here is my new rig.

<span class="ev_code_RED"> A Singular HOTAS </span>


I owe the inspiration to left-hand stick-maker Homeboy, and my excellent buddy/wingman Pedro. I really liked Homeboy's southpaw adaptions from the moment he started writing about them and Pedro was kind enough to buy me the new handle as a present. H_B added a throttle pot inside the head of the stick and, after a lesson on hot metal, my wife helped me with the necessary soldering! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

I still wanted more - and with the stick opened up and a healthy supply of spare parts, I set about cutting up my Fighterstick. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
It took ten days and another couple of soldering sessions, plus those 'fingers crossed' moments as I plugged in the twin USB cables and opened up the Control Manager.....but I needn't have worried http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Loads of buttons now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif - 147 commands'worth altogether - and six axes, not including the rudder's three.


I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't proud of this strange creation! It's just what I've always wanted. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks again to Homeboy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif and Pedro http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif and Valda http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif <--just in case she's reading this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The story of the build is here. (http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3500)

See you 'up there', cheers!


10-06-2006, 08:27 AM

WOW! such determination and workmanship! You have done alot more than what this 2 armed man can do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif!

I would love to see you flying online, prefereably on my six http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Awesome! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif You should patent one!

10-06-2006, 10:03 AM
Excellent job with the 'assistive device', i'm truly impressed - I do have a fair amount of soldering experience myself, but i'm not sure i'd be quite so brave as to take it to the level that you did, much less dealing with the frustration of doing it one-handed.

10-06-2006, 10:20 AM
much less dealing with the frustration of doing it one-handed.

Yeah! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif That's probably why I filed this photo under the title "Aargh!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Even before all the buttons were wired.....


10-06-2006, 10:30 AM
It looks like prop from Doctor Who!

10-06-2006, 01:09 PM
awsome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

10-06-2006, 02:51 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

10-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Thats a nice piece of work there B. I especially like the little throttle lever on the side of the stick, very cool.

10-06-2006, 03:35 PM

Thank you m8s

I was equally impressed by Bandit's pit (in his sig). That is what I expect of a side-hack pilot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I bet it holds the road really well, too!


10-07-2006, 01:54 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Wow Brando that is a monster stick you got yourself there congrats!

Always impresses me how this sim seems to inspire (and some times forces) creativity and ingenuity in the real world as well as the virtual. Your own particular situation doubley so

RESPECT, to coin a phrase from popular beat culture http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

10-07-2006, 02:53 AM
Thats excellent! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I like the idea anyway of having everything in one place.... all that soldering.. blimey, well done.

10-07-2006, 04:51 AM
Nice!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

My money's on you in the next ***-kicking contest!

(Or was that a one-legged man?)

10-07-2006, 06:30 AM
Well, I'm sitting here - and working my way through the intricacies of programming what is basically two joysticks! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

It seemed typical that of the two logic boards, it would be the second that got picked up as the lead. D'oh! All the trimming wheels were recognised as the principal axes, while pulling the stick back increased prop pitch! LOL

I went off in search of FoolTrottel's handy little IL2-Sticks app , but came up with the improved version from Oleg_BS - IL2 JoyControl.
That really did it! Now all the axes are in the right order - with my favoured stick settings in place and even a force gradient on the brake pedal. Talk about taking a good thing and making it better - well done indeed, the pair of you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I also took a while to work out the constant conflict error I was getting from the CH software - until I realised that the CM detects the X & Y axes on both machines, irrespective of the manual designation I made. Then I twigged that I can't do the combined controllers trick with two Fightersticks, but fortunately I didn't have to, thanks to the game's abilty to handle up to 4 controllers.
Now I have three separate IDs and no conflicts - and thanks to the aforementioned app, I didn't need to do all that manual editing in conf.ini

I've flown my Hurri IIb around in a few QMs so far. The flight control is good, subject to my having to re-learn various control positions, and the trimming rotaries and pitch control are spot on! There's less need for frantic mode switching too with seventeen commands instantly available on the stick, and a further twelve on the second panel.

The big red push-button - the 'jump' button - is an old purchase I made for another project. I rejected it at the time because a big spring inside makes it need a firm press to work - but that's an advantage here. That and having to take my hand off the stick makes it a little less than instant. So too with the trimming wheels - I don't feel like it's a 'trim-on-a-slider' unfair advantage when I have to relinquish my grip on the stick to make the adjustments. But the smoothness compared to button adjustment is beautiful http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I think that a patenting attempt might upset my friends over at CH http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif but I could recommend it as an aid to two-handed people with very little desk-space! I reversed the stick to the base 180 degrees, to put the mode lights in view and to bring the coarse trimming wheels in range of my left hand - but reversing it would bring the standard throttle back into play. Hmmmmm. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif