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general_kalle
08-12-2006, 04:31 AM
which plane is bost for killing heavy bombers Like B17, B24 and B29?

personally i think the Me262 is splendid
1. great speed(fast in, fast out.)
2. 24 air to air rockets
3. 4 heavy cannons

the only two disadvantages is
1. lack of ammo
2. easy flamable engines

still one of the best as the slower ones easyly are shot down then theyre hanging behind the bombers.

the seafire/spitfire is also great!

what do u think


another thing.

could anyone please explaine me the difference between all the bomb types

german: AB, SC with more
russian: Fab, Vab also with more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

general_kalle
08-12-2006, 04:31 AM
which plane is bost for killing heavy bombers Like B17, B24 and B29?

personally i think the Me262 is splendid
1. great speed(fast in, fast out.)
2. 24 air to air rockets
3. 4 heavy cannons

the only two disadvantages is
1. lack of ammo
2. easy flamable engines

still one of the best as the slower ones easyly are shot down then theyre hanging behind the bombers.

the seafire/spitfire is also great!

what do u think


another thing.

could anyone please explaine me the difference between all the bomb types

german: AB, SC with more
russian: Fab, Vab also with more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BlakJakOfSpades
08-12-2006, 04:40 AM
I like the tempest for its speed and especially high speed maneuverability it lets you weave in and out of the bombers with snap precision I just like how it feels. The 4 hispanos don't hurt either.

Of course my first bomber hunter love was the 190 A-9 with MK108 gunpods, can't beat it for sheer firepower.

For me basically anything with big ol' cannons I can make snapshots with, the MK108 is a favorite and the MK103 to a lesser extent. The MG 151/20's are good for me, probably because they usually come in big banks. They require a slight track of the target or a headon shot, but they put up a nice wall o' lead.

Cajun76
08-12-2006, 04:51 AM
The Me-210 is very good with the Mk 108 and extra 151/20 package. Rather tight box of fire so that your shells aren't spread out.

bienenbaer
08-12-2006, 05:01 AM
(in the game) best bomber killer is the Komet, as it does not suffer from bomber fire, either because of its small size or its DM.

If you're accustomed to it you can take out 2-3 heavies with one ammo load.

F19_Olli72
08-12-2006, 05:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by general_kalle:
could anyone please explaine me the difference between all the bomb types

german: AB, SC with more
russian: Fab, Vab also with more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From Hardballs Aircraft viewer:

AB:
Type: Munition dispenser carrying SD-2 antipersonnel fragmentation bombs or SD-4 hollow-charge antitank munition.

SC:
Type: General purpose bomb.

SD:
Type: Fragmentation bomb.

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FAB:
Type: General purpose bomb.

PTAB-2.5:
Type: Multiple anti-tank bomblet.

VAP-250:
Type: Phosphorus dispenser.

AJ-2 Ampoules:
Type: Napalm dispenser.

Aaron_GT
08-12-2006, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The Me-210 is very good with the Mk 108 and extra 151/20 package. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sadly only AI, though.

JG52Karaya-X
08-12-2006, 05:14 AM
Just a sidenote on German bombs:

AB = Abwurfbeh√¬§lter (Bomben Transport/Abwurfbeh√¬§lter)
PC = Panzersprengbombe Cylindrisch
PD = Panzersprengbombe Dickwandig
SC = Sprengbombe Cylindrisch
SD = Splitterbombe Dickwandig
BL C = Brandbombe Leuchtmittel Cylindrisch
B = Brandbombe
BC = Brandbombe Cylindrisch
SBe = Sprengbombe Beton
NC = Nebelbombe Cylindrisch
SD4HL = Splitterbombe Dickwandig 4Kg Hohlladung

HotelBushranger
08-12-2006, 05:16 AM
Excluding jets, the best for me is the Me-110 with 108s and 20mms. Can't manouver very well, but you get those babies on target and BLAM! Reminds me of a time I blew up a Sturmo online with a sweet snapshot, man that baby went down http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">SD = Splitterbombe ****wandig </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

*Giggles*

leitmotiv
08-12-2006, 07:16 AM
Thick fog over the UK right after a tough mission. A bad storm in Texas nearly wiped out the entire USAF B-36 force on the ground in 1952!

VW-IceFire
08-12-2006, 08:19 AM
I think the Me-262 wins for best bomber destroyer. The FW190A-8 or A-9 with MK108 cannons on the wings or even the MK103 cannons could be a good solution and the Bf110 with MK108 or BK3.7 are good options.

All of those will snap even the largest bombers in half.

CUJO_1970
08-12-2006, 08:33 AM
The best bomber killer that is actually allowed online is the FW190A-9 with the twin MK-108 BFC's.

Of course, if the Me-262 was allowed to fly on online servers it would be the best.

TgD Thunderbolt56
08-12-2006, 09:17 AM
Pretty much anything with Mk108's is a potent bomber destroyer. Whether it's a FW 190, Me-110, Me-262, Me-163 or even a K4 with gunpods.

My favorite has to be the 190 (A8 or A9) with the 110 a close second.


TB

thefruitbat
08-12-2006, 12:32 PM
me2621a for sure, set the guns on two different triggers, 2 banks of two, its the only plane where i can easily shoot down 5 b17's. as long as you keep your spped well up, over 600 the ai gunners are pretty ineffectual, even on ace.

fruitbat

Jaws2002
08-12-2006, 12:52 PM
Best is 262

--Ghota flying wing is good. Very fast and has a pair of Mk 103's. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
--Me-163
--109Z
--BF-110 with 2xMk108+4xMg151/20
--Next would be the A8/9 with 2x mk103+2x mg151/20+2x mg131.
--I think the next one would be the Ki-84C. This one is better then A8/9 with Mk108's. Way better fighter if has to deal with escorts too.

--Tempest is great too it has four hispanos, fast like hell, great handling at high speed and something unic. The best gunsight for deflection shooting.
--F4U-1C would be next. Also outstanding for deflection shooting. Great for those high angle attacks.

cawimmer430
08-12-2006, 01:14 PM
My personal favorites (in order of preference)

1) Me-163B - untouchable - until the fuel runs out. You can zoom by bombers at 700-800 km/h and Mustangs and P-47's won't be able to do anything - again, until you run out of gas.

2) BF-110 G-2 with MK-108 - simply badass. Awesome firepower, decent speed, but if the bombers have fighter escorts, you're in trouble.

3) BF-109 / Focke-Wulf FW-190 & the Ki-84lc equipped with the MK-108 or various gun / wingpods (German planes).

4) Me-262 - fast and packs a punch, but runs out of ammo quickly. Engines easily damaged.

5) Heinkel He-162 - fast, maneuvrable, but "weakly armed" compared to the ones mentioned ^above^

WOLFMondo
08-12-2006, 01:41 PM
Easily the 262 followed by the 190A6/8/9 and the Tempest. BF110 is pretty good too. P38's with gun pods do a good job as well.

Snuffy Smith
08-12-2006, 01:58 PM
The heavy cannon in the P-39 and P-63 will pretty much kill anything with one hit--no matter where you hit it. But, one does have to get that one hit.

thefruitbat
08-12-2006, 02:59 PM
i dont get why people say the 262 doesn't have enough ammo? U r taking the 1a version with 4 cannons, and u are only firing them 2 at a time? 2 108's is all you need to bring down bombers in 1 pass, u dont need to fire all 4 at once.

fruitbat

MEGILE
08-12-2006, 03:21 PM
FW-190

slipBall
08-12-2006, 03:30 PM
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p1ngu666
08-12-2006, 04:07 PM
beaufighter is pretty nice. a later spec mossie would be pretty damn good too.

Badsight-
08-12-2006, 04:31 PM
you can get over 10,000 points in one sortie using the Me-262

seen it done 6 times now , not me tho . im jinxed to stay in 9xxx for life i swear

Aguila_Azteca
08-12-2006, 04:41 PM
i made a bomber intercep mission with 18 bombers in an tight historical formation, i brought 11 b17 with the me262, and i have get max like 8 with the bf110.... it is important to take into acount that i disable parachutes of the bombers, so they fight to the end... very very hard, i did se 3 wingmen for the mission but they die very quickly even tough they are set to ace... i dotn know why ai wont do head on atacks on bombers, but yes on fighters.....

SithSpeeder
08-12-2006, 04:43 PM
10000/400 (per bomber) = 25 bombers?

You're kidding, right?

* _54th_Speeder *

FritzGryphon
08-12-2006, 04:44 PM
For bomber killing and actually surviving?

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Not a big target. Well armored. Engine not insta-flame.

You can always expect lots of kills, and at worst, a dead-stick glide back to base.

Me-110 is too big, and Me-262 too flammable. Komet too impractical to work in all situations. Ki-84C is nice too, but I don't like how the wing fuel tanks can be hit from the front.

Jaws2002
08-12-2006, 04:57 PM
The Dornier is a Heck of a bomber killer with that Mk103, good gunsight and great high speed handling.

p1ngu666
08-12-2006, 05:09 PM
ive done 16 bombers with a 262..
most fun might be yak9k, 45mm cannon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Daiichidoku
08-12-2006, 05:11 PM
for moronic rear quarter attacks, Fw190

too bad we dont have sturmbock/wildsau A8s with extra armour


the intelligent bomber killer takes a P 47 with extra ammo loadout, separates 2 banks of 4 .50cals each, and works the pilots from headon/front oblique attacks only http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

fordfan25
08-12-2006, 08:06 PM
I-185 for the win you n00bs.

LEXX_Luthor
08-12-2006, 08:30 PM
Bf-109 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Z

Badsight-
08-13-2006, 12:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SithSpeeder:
10000/400 (per bomber) = 25 bombers?

You're kidding, right?

* _54th_Speeder * </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
no
i have a 262 training mission , all the 4 engine bombers in the game (+ some of the 2 engine ones)

ive gone over 20 myself , & ive seen 25/26 done 6 times

for a long time i was jinxed at not being able to get past 8000/20 , ive gotten 23 once

Badsight-
08-13-2006, 12:56 AM
the H8K , Pe-8 & the Me-323 go down eaisest

the best ammo eaters are the B-17s & especially : B-25

LEBillfish
08-13-2006, 01:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Badsight-:
the H8K , Pe-8 & the Me-323 go down eaisest

the best ammo eaters are the B-17s & especially : B-25 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I assume you're talking unlimited ammo......With limited ammo I like killing B25's with Ki-61 Ko's, or Ki-43-1c's.....For heavies like B17's tough to beat a Mk-103 sparingly shot, though my best work in a Me163 being very patient and picking your shots.....

25 bombers on limited ammo......hmmm.....I'd run out half way through easily.

Badsight-
08-13-2006, 02:00 AM
back you heathen

you hex the thread with your totally uncalled for unlimited ammo comments *spits*

it requires one trigger pull = one kill

& using one set of guns , not all 4 , on each plane . each pass has to be bang on & not just hitting (i.e. shooting B-17s & B-25s in the fueselarge is a waste of time) but plucking wings off or chopping them in half



all the time avoiding the gunners

Fighterduck
08-13-2006, 04:09 AM
pretty all FW are good bomber killers...but i found that also the Mitsubishi J2M3 'Raiden' will do pretty good the job.

karost
08-13-2006, 05:04 AM
Fw190A8/A9s (R-2,R-8) in Luftwaffe's Elite Sturm Units
without MK108 30mm, it very hard to be a "Best bomber killer"

S!

Haigotron
08-13-2006, 08:30 PM
ppl ppl, please, the question can be rephrased to:

which plane is best suited to ram a bomber...

pretty much anyone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif...maybe not the biplanes tho...unless u ram a TB3

ned7777
08-14-2006, 07:40 AM
this may seem stupid but the best is the a20 havoc. i waqs playing with it and a you have to do is rise up under the bomber and fire at the engines with the two fifty cals on top it will flame out quick.

Heavy_Metal1982
08-14-2006, 09:41 AM
Personally I think the KI-84 IC is the best, well for me anyway.

Rood-Zwart
08-14-2006, 10:15 AM
For me its the 110 with the bk 3,7... a snipergun if you get used to it, plenty of ammo and a one shot- one kill if you shoot for the wings... I also have a tendency to shoot the props off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif