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TX Rahman
05-08-2006, 08:59 AM
For those of you who may have an Akers Barnes cockpit... I finally have found a very comfortable seat for it. It actually feels alot like the seat in my Mazda RX-8!! I'm posting a stock photo of it and a link to the info.. ONce you install the seat you will need to slide the seat section back a bit and you do sit a little higher. All in all it's great! No more cockpit fatigue.

http://www.txsquadron.com/uploaded/tx-rahman/ratchet.jpg


They're available at BestBuy for $44.99. Well worth the money...beats the heck out of the lawnmower seat I had in there!!
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?categoryid=pcmc...roduct&ref=06&loc=01 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?categoryid=pcmcat57700050030&id=1122654460689&skuid=7384957&type=product&ref=06&loc=01)

I'll take some pics of the pit with it in there and will post them as well. Very comfortable though!

TgD Thunderbolt56
05-08-2006, 10:16 AM
I saw this the other day at Best Buy and had the same thought. Currently (and since I built it) I've been using one of those massage cushions that has some mild padding, but still leaves a bit to be desired.

I'll have to look into this a bit closer.


TB

TX Rahman
05-08-2006, 12:43 PM
It's a night and day difference. You won't be sorry... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I thought it was a very well spent $50 w/taxes. I'll post some pics tonight of it in the pit.

P.S. Best Buy has a good return policy...15 days... Hell, I knew that I would either keep it or not as soon as I unboxed it and tried to fit it in the cockpit. It's a snug fit but it does...fit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HelSqnProtos
05-08-2006, 12:56 PM
S~!

Good Find, thanks.

I am building one of these pits as well (rather slowly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) I have also been giving a lot of thought to the seat. Thanks for the tip. I was thinking to do away with the 'pit' seat altogether and put in an adjustable car seat of my choosing from a scrap yard. I had my eye on a nice black recarro.

Troll2k
05-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Would not a seat from an auto salvage yard be cheaper.Maybe get one and hook it up to 12 volts so all the adjustments work.

TX Rahman
05-08-2006, 09:34 PM
Gents,
I thought about using a car seat as well but I like the way the original seat has the side pieces to place the throttle and all on. I was using a hard foam lawnmower seat for quite some time. I also used pillows and anything else I could get to soften the seat. All the additional padding on the seat and on my arse didn't help. heh..

A problem I found looking for a seat was the width of the available recaro and replacement seats from like a mitsu eclipse for example. They were all too wide to fit within the confines of the existing seat. I had seen similar recaro looking seats with the large plastic rocking legs on them at Best Buy in the past but looked into it and the legs were an integral part of its construction. When I saw this seat in BB I immediately walked over to the home theatre guys and asked for a tape measure. The Ratchet was just a little over the mark...and the part over the mark is the cushion to each edge, not the seat itself.

I would highly suggest a test ride in one... If you don't like the seat you can always return it. Will save you the time and headache of hacking up a carseat. As I said in the original post...You will have to slide it back a bit more than you currently have it, and you will be sitting slightly higher depending on what you're using for cushion now. I adjusted really quick.

I've taken some pics but I will be posting them tomorrow morning sometime. I've also taken pics of my Buttkicker Gamer installation on the pit and will be posting them seperately...another suggested buy...well worth the $99.

S~~

TC_Stele
05-08-2006, 09:47 PM
Awesome find! I've tried nearly 3 seats hoping to find the right seat for my ABC. I'll check it out. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HelSqnProtos
05-09-2006, 02:29 AM
S~!

Looking forward to the pics. I want to modify the original design a bit so looking for ideas. Great thread!

Diablo310th
05-09-2006, 05:54 AM
awsome find...I'm on my way over right after school today to get mine. Thanks

TX Rahman
05-09-2006, 06:37 AM
As promised, here are the pics guys.... I swear I'm gonna sand and stain/paint the pit one day...lol.

Front Shot
http://www.txsquadron.com/uploaded/tx-rahman/ratchet1.jpg

Side Shot
http://www.txsquadron.com/uploaded/tx-rahman/ratchet2.jpg

Shot from a back angle.
http://www.txsquadron.com/uploaded/tx-rahman/ratchet3.jpg

Closer front shot.
http://www.txsquadron.com/uploaded/tx-rahman/ratchet4.jpg

Also look sometime today for my Buttkicker Gamer thread for the pit... Will be posting a few pics of the installation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HelSqnProtos
05-09-2006, 11:20 AM
S~!

Owwwwwwwww my eyes! You blow all this money on seats, butkickers ect............ Get some paint!!!!!!

J/K nice pit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

timholt
05-09-2006, 09:11 PM
Can one of you guys supply the plans for one of these, I take it they are home built?

HelSqnProtos
05-09-2006, 09:36 PM
S~!

Scroll to the bottom and you will find a link to the plans.

http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.asn.au/62ndff/projects/cockpit/cockpit.htm

GAU-8
05-09-2006, 11:32 PM
thx RAH!

gonna git one t-marra then

good find!

x6BL_Brando
05-10-2006, 04:03 AM
That looks very nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I have two questions Rahman;

Is it comfortable and ergonomically designed (supports well)?

Has anyone seen a European outlet? Preferably UK.

Myself I've used a car seat and a plywood 'half-pit' for some years. I don't have a right arm, so there's not much point building a right side - just because it can be hard to get in & out of. I've always liked the idea of an ABC derivative though and this may be the year I do it! But I do need back support, so anything 'nearer to home' I'd like to hear about. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

The other idea I've looked at is using a Russian sidecar like the one attached to my BMW. It's all steel but has THE most comfortable seat I know of. Designed to carry a fully-uniformed soldier across Europe it would make a great basis for a pit I reckon. It's even got a foot-rail that would work as a pedal mount.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/brando6BL/NoProblem.jpg

It would just mean exchanging the saw and screwdriver for cutting & welding gear (thinks: might need some help with this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) It just has to be smuggled past my darling wife http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Anyway - sorry to hijack - and any more info would be appreciated. Enjoy your new found comfort m8. Lovely! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

B.

TX Rahman
05-22-2006, 09:22 PM
Brando,
It supports great in my opinion... There's no way I could ever go back to sitting on a hard foam tractor seat with pillows and all. My back would actually hurt after sitting on the old seat for a while. Now I can sit in total comfort...have fallen asleep in this seat several times. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Gau messaged me and he got his Ratchet. Gau, any thoughts on your seat and the comfort and support of it?

I would be curious to know how the guys who bought this seat felt about it. I hope everyone else has as positive an experience that I have with it. A true back saver.

Anyone else who bought this for their cockpit...chime in here please... Would love to hear how it's working out. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Diablo310th
05-23-2006, 07:29 AM
I got mine a couple weeks ago. I love the feel and comfort of it. However I don't like how high it has me sitting up. I am going to have to make a new and lower brace between panels to allow me to sit lower and leaned back more. Other than that I love teh feel.

TX Rahman
05-23-2006, 01:13 PM
It took me a little while to get used to sitting a bit higher... I scooted the seat back a bit to compensate. I thought about cutting part "I" in the center to get me back down to where I was. As seen in the drawing below...highlighted in red.
http://www.txsquadron.com/uploaded/tx-rahman/part_i.jpg

This would also involve drilling another hole on the sides to make the pipe for the rear of the seat lower. (Parts "N" and "O" on the cockpit)

TheGozr
05-23-2006, 01:20 PM
A question regarding many built cockpits why the monitor are so far and so high ?
make an arm that you can adjust the height and distance.
I like when the monitor is just in front of you head not higher and closer.

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/docs/cockpitQuestion.jpg

Where is your head position ?
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( --flat panel, forget about it ) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TX Rahman
05-23-2006, 07:23 PM
GOZR said:
A question regarding many built cockpits why the monitor are so far and so high ? make an arm that you can adjust the height and distance. I like when the monitor is just in front of you head not higher and closer.

GOZR: Actually... The black seat isn't as tall as you would think. The top of the back of the seat is about even with my shoulders. My eyes are exactly even with the center of the screen.

Also, you must take into account that my body is not the seat itself as you have it drawn.. My head is actually higher AND closer to the monitor. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I also just received a frensel lense to check out. It that doesn't work out I'll buy a 24 inch lcd...

TgD Thunderbolt56
05-24-2006, 08:28 AM
I am leaning heavily on grabbing one of these seats, but regarding the positioning of the monitor relative to the user, let me show you what I've done.

I got one of these: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...pNo=686288&CatId=576 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=686288&CatId=576) and it has made THE WORLD OF DIFFERENCE! By cutting a small square cutout in the top panel of the pit's monitor platform and securing this swing-arm, I'm able to position the monitor closer to my eyes as well as rotate and reposition the monitor at my whim. I currently use a 21" LCD that works well with it and with the positioning as it currently sits won't need anything else.

I just realized I don't have any pictures of it handy, but will take a couple when I get home.


TB

bluedragon1950
05-24-2006, 10:36 AM
Just in case you want more, here are the links:

http://www.acesim.com/chapter1.html
http://www.flightcontrolsimulator.com/site/1646834/page/763314

TheGozr
05-24-2006, 11:43 AM
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TB that's a great find http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TX Rahman
05-25-2006, 05:22 AM
TB,
I couldn't agree with GOZR more...great find. I received the frensel lense and finally unpacked it yesterday. My monitor is a 21 inch so...can't view all of the screen... The lense is a bit too small. I may end up going the 24 inch LCD path with this arm...