Jumoschwanz

10-28-2004, 09:47 PM

Here are the figures: All were got without complicated engine management, and were got with any form of boost or WEP turned on. Fuel load was 25% to simulate online fuel load. Map was Smolensk at noon on river bed for top speed. Acceleration runs were done the length of a concrete airstrip on Online summer 1 map at noon.

These changes are not good or bad, but are just flight model tweaks that PF has that may be putting the planes closer to actuality? I did the European planes as that is what I usually fly and so they could be compared to AEP 2.04.

These tests are valid only relative to themselves. I tested the planes from both AEP 2.04 and PF 3.0 not under any conditions Oleg uses, but under the same conditions never the less so the performance increases or decreases should be similiar in roughly similiar conditions. These are just guidlines and not labratory results.

km/hr loss at sea level:

E7b loses 9 km/hr down to 464

F4 loses 5 down to 503

G2 loses 10 down to 513

G6 loses 11 down to 511

G6late loses 9 down to 513

K4 loses 6 down to 563

Bf-110 gains 5 up to 492!

A-4 same top speed but slower acceleration!

A5-8 each down 3-5 km/hr

Ta-152 gains 4 km/hr up to 571

Allied Changes:

Hurri IIc gains 9 km/hr up to 412

La-7 loses 5 down to 601

P39 N-1 loses 3 down to 508

P47 D-27 loses 10 down to 565!

INteresting facts:

I-16 Type24 accelerates as fast as P47 D-27 up to 356 km/hr, and faster than a late P-51 and all 1941 and earlier 109s.

Many planes in PF have the same top speed but slower acceleration indicating a weight increase.

P-40 field mod is fastest accelerating P-40 in PF.

P51b is 7 km/hr faster than p51c on the deck.

Fastest planes by year at sea level:

1940 Mig 498km/hr, 109E4 460km/hr

1941 Mig3ud 507km/hr, 109F4 503km/hr

1942 la-5 552km/h, P-51B 543km/h,Mig3u 545km/h,190A4 536km/h,Spit5bL.F.519km/hr, 109g2 513km/h.

1943 La-5fn 582km/hr,190A5 564km/hr,P38J 553km/h,P47 d-10 537km/h,Lagg3(66) 540km/h, Spit9e 534 km/hr 1943 109g6late 513km/hr.

1944 La-7 601km/h, Ta-152 571km/h, 190 d-9 570 km/h,P47 D-27 565km/h, 109K4 563km/h,P51 d-20 558km/h,Yak3535km/h.

Many of these planes top speeds are after a very long run. So they are not really useful. Especially the 190A4-9 series are as slow or slower to accelerate than all early war planes.

I spent a lot of time measuring the acceleration and sea level speed of the European planes. Any questions I can answer that are not answered above let me know and I can probable grab some figures off my list. S!

Jumoschwanz

These changes are not good or bad, but are just flight model tweaks that PF has that may be putting the planes closer to actuality? I did the European planes as that is what I usually fly and so they could be compared to AEP 2.04.

These tests are valid only relative to themselves. I tested the planes from both AEP 2.04 and PF 3.0 not under any conditions Oleg uses, but under the same conditions never the less so the performance increases or decreases should be similiar in roughly similiar conditions. These are just guidlines and not labratory results.

km/hr loss at sea level:

E7b loses 9 km/hr down to 464

F4 loses 5 down to 503

G2 loses 10 down to 513

G6 loses 11 down to 511

G6late loses 9 down to 513

K4 loses 6 down to 563

Bf-110 gains 5 up to 492!

A-4 same top speed but slower acceleration!

A5-8 each down 3-5 km/hr

Ta-152 gains 4 km/hr up to 571

Allied Changes:

Hurri IIc gains 9 km/hr up to 412

La-7 loses 5 down to 601

P39 N-1 loses 3 down to 508

P47 D-27 loses 10 down to 565!

INteresting facts:

I-16 Type24 accelerates as fast as P47 D-27 up to 356 km/hr, and faster than a late P-51 and all 1941 and earlier 109s.

Many planes in PF have the same top speed but slower acceleration indicating a weight increase.

P-40 field mod is fastest accelerating P-40 in PF.

P51b is 7 km/hr faster than p51c on the deck.

Fastest planes by year at sea level:

1940 Mig 498km/hr, 109E4 460km/hr

1941 Mig3ud 507km/hr, 109F4 503km/hr

1942 la-5 552km/h, P-51B 543km/h,Mig3u 545km/h,190A4 536km/h,Spit5bL.F.519km/hr, 109g2 513km/h.

1943 La-5fn 582km/hr,190A5 564km/hr,P38J 553km/h,P47 d-10 537km/h,Lagg3(66) 540km/h, Spit9e 534 km/hr 1943 109g6late 513km/hr.

1944 La-7 601km/h, Ta-152 571km/h, 190 d-9 570 km/h,P47 D-27 565km/h, 109K4 563km/h,P51 d-20 558km/h,Yak3535km/h.

Many of these planes top speeds are after a very long run. So they are not really useful. Especially the 190A4-9 series are as slow or slower to accelerate than all early war planes.

I spent a lot of time measuring the acceleration and sea level speed of the European planes. Any questions I can answer that are not answered above let me know and I can probable grab some figures off my list. S!

Jumoschwanz