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Choctaw111
08-15-2007, 11:00 AM
This thing is a real beauty and I am VERY pleased with the quality and craftsmanship that Ken"Ghost"King put into it for me and knowing that it is all CH inside makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. It works flawlessly so now I have a Pro Throttle with 14 extra functions (six 2-way switches) and 2 rotaries, one operated by the pinky finger and the other by the index finger.
Some of you know that I am pretty handy so even before I got it I knew that I was going to mod the rear switches, which I finished the day after I got it. Now I have the 6 switches in the back that are easier the reach and operate. Here are some photos of the Franken Potato with the modded switches.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Potato3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Potato1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Switches1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/PotatoFront1.jpg

...And the "Sim Chair". She is old but has given me many good years of service.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/SimChair.jpg

Here is the Fighterstick installation.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SimChair/Fighterstick.jpg

As I said ealier I have used this setup for several years. The armrests and the chair were designed by me to be ergonomically correct for me. All the measurements were taken and angles figured out so when I sit down everything is right where it needs to be right down to the fractions of an inch and to the degree of angle. It may not look like much but when I sit in this chair and place my arms on the rests my hands naturally rest where the controls are at their neutral position.
Sorry, I have never talked about my Sim Chair before, this thread is about the Franken Potato and what a great piece of work this is. for anyone who has a PT or is thinking about getting one, PLEASE consider getting this mod for it. Head over to the CH Hangar to find out more at this link.
http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2488&highlight=potato

GreyFox5
08-15-2007, 11:15 AM
Nice work!

Ah the comfy chair http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
08-15-2007, 01:29 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

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http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BrotherVoodoo
08-15-2007, 10:31 PM
I am pretty sure I need this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

knightflyte
08-15-2007, 11:00 PM
Hey Choctaw. That chair's a classic. It should be in the Smithsonian next to Archie Bunker's chair. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


I hopped over to the link provided @ CH. Are the prices quoted still in effect?


How are the rotaries, and are they compatible with IL2 Stick/Joycontrol?

rockgardenlove
08-16-2007, 12:37 AM
My god. Overpriced much?

Capt.LoneRanger
08-16-2007, 12:45 AM
The missing rotaries on the CH-Setup really is a one of the few negative points about this HOTAS.

So this is really a great idea! Maybe I'll fiddle around with mine, too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Choctaw111
08-16-2007, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by knightflyte:
Hey Choctaw. That chair's a classic. It should be in the Smithsonian next to Archie Bunker's chair. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


I hopped over to the link provided @ CH. Are the prices quoted still in effect?


How are the rotaries, and are they compatible with IL2 Stick/Joycontrol?

The prices are still current. The rotaries work just fine in Il2. I have the pinky rotary mapped to flaps and the index rotary mapped to prop pitch. They work great.

As far as the chair goes, it was in my barracks years ago, in the day room, and just before I changed duty assignments and in the process of moving out (the barracks was nearly vacant of occupants at the time as it was scheduled for demolition anyway) I thought it would make a good sim chair so I just took it with me. I don't think the Army missed it at all. Maybe I should get it reupholstered. It is just so 80's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif .
Someone mentioned that is seemed expensive. To some it may seem that way but it is worth every penny to have those extra functions all in one convenient place.

Ken-Ghost-King
08-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by BrotherVoodoo:
I am pretty sure I need this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yes, yes you do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ken-Ghost-King
08-16-2007, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by rockgardenlove:
My god. Overpriced much?

Over priced? Really? What would you consider a fair price for parts (you can't buy without getting a complete TQ and PT) and 6-8 hours labor?

Choctaw111
08-16-2007, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Ken-Ghost-King:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockgardenlove:
My god. Overpriced much?

Over priced? Really? What would you consider a fair price for parts (you can't buy without getting a complete TQ and PT) and 6-8 hours labor? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very well said Ghost. I don't feel that I overpaid at all. In fact I believe that I got a GREAT deal. As a Beta Tester for CH he knows what he is doing and CH really likes what he does with these mods. While he was working on it I could call him at any time, but he would call ME most of the time and let me know how things were going. You do not get that kind of service with many places these days. It was a genuine pleasure doing business with him and I highly recommend him to others.

Esel1964
08-16-2007, 10:43 PM
Very cool Choctaw,congrats,and glad it's working out for you.That's a nice mod,for sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I like the chair idea,but would prefer a centered joystick,so I could make a pedestal to hold that,but I'm definitely mounting my throttle like that.

"The armrests and the chair were designed by me to be ergonomically correct for me. All the measurements were taken and angles figured out so when I sit down everything is right where it needs to be right down to the fractions of an inch and to the degree of angle. It may not look like much but when I sit in this chair and place my arms on the rests my hands naturally rest where the controls are at their neutral position."

I'd like to hear the details of all you did to accomplish this.
I realize you must've had someone measure/mark where you sit in your "normal" position for that given chair.

I was wondering what all was considered in your size and angle measurements,show the details of what you set at an angle,the whole armrest or just the controls(I can see they're tilted forward).

Chris0382
08-17-2007, 05:28 AM
6 - 8 hrs labor Is that all for a device thats ahead of its time and maybe one of the only few in existence.

Im amazed.

A gadget like that is priceless to a true sim nut. Some times there are things a person should have at no matter what the cost.

BSS_CUDA
08-17-2007, 06:08 AM
the rotary I can understand by why do you need to add more buttons???? you do know the CH pro throttle already had 57 function buttons. if you push the mini joy straight in it changes to a different group of settings. and you can do this 3 times hence the reason for the 3 different colored lights on the bottom rt side

Chris0382
08-17-2007, 06:55 AM
Instant access to a buttons function without going into seperate modes is essential for me. Never liked assigning the shift button to my combat stick and I like direct execution of a button in an orderly fasion. Now you have buttons lined up in order and would be easier for me to memorize and execute.

Everyone has thier preferences. But in the heat of battle when split seconds count, I hate going in and out of modes or having to use a shift button.

I can almost count more than 57 controls setting in the game.

If I could only send in my combatstick or FS-Pro for mods. Or maybe put kits together and sell them so we can do our own labor. Ide welcome a set of extra buttons but on top of the base of my CS.

Im assuming the buttons are extra buttons recognized by the CH-Manager some how or via the CMS script.

TgD Thunderbolt56
08-17-2007, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Chris0382:
Instant access to a buttons function without going into seperate modes is essential for me...

Likewise for me. Maybe if I were flying bombers more I'd use the mode-shift function, but because I have to actually cycle through the three modes instead of toggling from one to the other, it's much more intuitive for me to have some added switches.

As far as the cost is concerned, I look at it this way:

This is a hobby of mine that I spend literally thousands of dollars (over a few years of course) building pc's, upgrading hardware, building a home sim-pit etc,.. Like my other hobbies, I assign a monthly value and allow myself that amount of money for potential upgrades or enhancements.

Awhile back I also had a custom set of CH controllers made for me to be used left-handed. There were some people who guffawed at the price and said things like "Wouldn't it just be easier to learn to fly right-handed?" to which I answered "no". Walk a mile in my shoes... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I figure I build a new pc just about every 18 months and hand down my displaced rig to one of my kids. This keeps my home-network upgraded and keeps my personal rig close to cutting-edge. The money I spend on those machines is considerably more than a couple hundred dollars (basically the same for a decent HOTAS). I've used my TrackIR3 Pro, CH controllers, Akers-Barnes pit and headphones through my last several machines. Doesn't that make my controllers and peripherals a better investment than my pc?

There are many who would say that spending $170 on a headset/mic is too much, but that's what I did. I got an AKG studio set that is absolutely incredible in quality of build/materials and function. I've had them for some 3 years already and expect them to last for considerably longer.

Everything is relative and there's not a requirement to purchase or mod anything, but let me say it's nice to have these things available...and that's worth something too.

I sent my already customized (and costly) lefty-throttle to Ken for Franken-potato modifications and I'll wager that I'll still be using them for my next 5 pc's.

Not all of us have the skills and werewithall to do such things, and I for one am glad that there are people out here like Mark (Snomhf) Fletcher and Ken (Ghost) King. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif


TB

Chris0382
08-17-2007, 08:05 AM
Its all money management and priorities. Whats important to you. Do you buy a pack of cigs a day? Doy you go our bar hopping every other day ? Do you drive an performance car spending 2x on insurance? Do you live beyond your means and pay 17% interest.

Its all relative.

Have fun with that great mod.

BrotherVoodoo
08-17-2007, 08:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by BrotherVoodoo:
I am pretty sure I need this


Yes, yes you do.


I may well look into doing this in another month or so. What is the turn around time? I'm not sure I can survive too long without my PT.
ghost, your work is amazing sir.

Ken-Ghost-King
08-17-2007, 09:37 AM
I have some stock in reserve. Nothing built, but as soon as I get a firm order I start work. Most of the time, I have it ready for install when I recieve yours, and it's sent out after test in CMv4.20. So basically you are looking at whatever it takes during shipment.

Thank you

Choctaw111
08-17-2007, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
the rotary I can understand by why do you need to add more buttons???? you do know the CH pro throttle already had 57 function buttons. if you push the mini joy straight in it changes to a different group of settings. and you can do this 3 times hence the reason for the 3 different colored lights on the bottom rt side

I need (or like)instant access to my buttons. I have messed around with the functions buttons before but some stuff you just gotta have access to right away.

BrotherVoodoo
08-17-2007, 11:14 AM
ghost, I sent you a PM sir.

Choc is right though, buttons have to be easy to grab, modes don't work for me either.

Ken-Ghost-King
08-18-2007, 11:18 AM
PM Replied to. I've been assigning modes (3) to my FighterStick. One mode for a sim I want to fly. Mode 1 Pacific Fighters, Mode 2 Combat Flight Simulator 2, Mode 3 Combat Flight Simulator 3...

Capt.LoneRanger
08-18-2007, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
the rotary I can understand by why do you need to add more buttons???? you do know the CH pro throttle already had 57 function buttons. if you push the mini joy straight in it changes to a different group of settings. and you can do this 3 times hence the reason for the 3 different colored lights on the bottom rt side

I need (or like)instant access to my buttons. I have messed around with the functions buttons before but some stuff you just gotta have access to right away. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The throttle and stick offer a variety of buttons, but I never used the 3 modes-system, either. Shifted buttons alone will give you a lot of functions, but if you play bombers, too, or even other flightsims like LOMAC or even Falcon4, you'll very quickly run out of buttons even with a CH-HOTAS.

RevvinUK
08-18-2007, 12:26 PM
You can never have too many buttons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.ch-hangar.com/SiteFiles/Images/il-2_controls.jpg

Ken-Ghost-King
08-18-2007, 12:43 PM
Nope ya can't now can ya Rev... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
08-18-2007, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Revvin_UK:
You can never have too many buttons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.ch-hangar.com/SiteFiles/Images/il-2_controls.jpg

But you definitely can have to few hands. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dagnabit
08-18-2007, 03:05 PM
Big thanks for the post choctaw, it gave me some ideas for my flight chair. The custom angles for throttle, and stick, will help me with taking tension off my shoulders and arms, during long sessions. Great stuff guys.
Regards
Dag

Choctaw111
08-18-2007, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Dagnabit:
Big thanks for the post choctaw, it gave me some ideas for my flight chair. The custom angles for throttle, and stick, will help me with taking tension off my shoulders and arms, during long sessions. Great stuff guys.
Regards
Dag

I can give you the down angles I used for the Fighterstick and the PT and some other info. That will save you some time as it took me a little while to sort it all to get it just right. There are some other things I can help you out with if you are looking to do a "Sim Chair". I will be doing a full pit sometime in the future but the chair is still a great idea for most people as it takes up no more room than you are already using now.

Chris0382
08-18-2007, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Revvin_UK:
You can never have too many buttons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.ch-hangar.com/SiteFiles/Images/il-2_controls.jpg

But you definitely can have to few hands. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But on the down side the his home will never pass an inspection of the foundation with that set up. Looks to me as if his house could take off on a carrier.

Lurch1962
08-20-2007, 05:14 PM
What's the cost?

Is it possible to get just the parts and do the mods myself? I'm rather handy.

--Lurch--

Ken-Ghost-King
08-20-2007, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Lurch1962:
What's the cost?

Is it possible to get just the parts and do the mods myself? I'm rather handy.

--Lurch--

For what you see there $180.00

Sure if you wanted to get a TQ and a PT.