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mandrill7
10-01-2006, 08:47 AM
I'm considering creating a campaign for the Phillipines using the Malaya map in FMB. Haven't decided yet if it's going to be red (P-51) or blue (Ki-84?). Any-1 with any info on the available planes??

I assume that the US is flying the P-51D, but what model? And is the P-51C also usable? And which models of the P-47 and P-38? Bomber-wise, I assume we're talking the B-24, B-25J and A-20G.

The USN would be flying the Hellcat and Avenger? And no USMC corsairs?

For the IJN/IJA, I know the Ki-84A is available. But what else?

Thanks in advance!

LEBillfish
10-01-2006, 11:21 AM
As far as the Japanese planes it is just about "you name it they had it".....Only ones that would really make me have to look would be the very very late A6/7M, and the J3M & N1K's. Even they may be possible.

JG52Karaya-X
10-01-2006, 12:34 PM
Well almost everything on the Japanese side except the Ki-100

Doug_Thompson
10-01-2006, 01:34 PM
It's great somebody's doing this. The Japanese were even able to achieve air superiority at the time.

I have a lot of info on this, but it's on my computer at work. Let me get to it tomorrow, please.

horseback
10-01-2006, 03:33 PM
USAAF had just about everything there but the kitchen sink: some reconn squads were still flying P-39s, and the Mexican AF was operating P-47D bubbletops along with a number of USAAF units not yet converted to Mustangs. Lots of P-38Ls, P-51Ds. Razorback Mustangs were not seen in the Pacific.

As for the USN, FM-2s were plentiful, as were the F6F-5 and F4U-1D. Marine squadrons were deployed on a number of carriers in late '44/early '45, because they had surplus personnel for the land-based commitments they had, and the Navy was a bit short for all the new fast carriers.

cheers

horseback

Doug_Thompson
10-01-2006, 04:04 PM
Francillion says "a small number" of Raidens were in the Philippines, where the Alllies first encounted them and gave them the code-name "Jack."

Ki-84-Ia was there. So was the George. Ki-43s were there in abundance, of course.

On the allied side, much of the air cover was provided by escort carriers. They used that late-model Grumman Wildcat with the taller tail and bigger engine.

I'm sure the Ki-63 was there, although Francillion doesn't explicitly say so. It was a major army type and the only airfield with proper facilities to refurbish and properly maintain high-powered inline engines was Clark Field in the Philippines.

I remember that the first unit to arrive was the famous squadron with Bong. He got his congressional while there. They were flying P-38s, but I need the records at work to tell you what kind.

The Japanese tried an airborne raid that took over some American airfields briefly. Intercepting those should make an interesting mission.

The Japanese also used their air superiority to run convoys from Luzon to reinforce Leyte. That will make some interesting attack on ships.

The key allied airfield was Tacloban. Google that and you should find some stuff quickly.

rcocean
10-01-2006, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
USAAF had just about everything there but the kitchen sink: some reconn squads were still flying P-39s, and the Mexican AF was operating P-47D bubbletops along with a number of USAAF units not yet converted to Mustangs. Lots of P-38Ls, P-51Ds. Razorback Mustangs were not seen in the Pacific.

As for the USN, FM-2s were plentiful, as were the F6F-5 and F4U-1D. Marine squadrons were deployed on a number of carriers in late '44/early '45, because they had surplus personnel for the land-based commitments they had, and the Navy was a bit short for all the new fast carriers.

cheers

horseback

Were the Marines flying corsairs off carriers in late '44 or did that wait until Okinawa?

VW-IceFire
10-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Its a shame we never got a map that we could use for this scenario. But I guess Malaya can be used as a semi-decent sub in.

There should be a huge number of aircraft that you can use as mentioned. I believe this is where the Ki-84 was first used. I think that is also true for the N1K-1J (not the 2J). This is one of the last places the Ki-27 was used as well (and promptly cut out of the sky).

mandrill7
10-01-2006, 05:46 PM
Yes, I started reading about the Ki-84 months ago as I have a half-done Ki-84 Kyushu campaign that I never get finished.

Looks like I have a lot of work ahead of me. Will continue grateful for any help or suggestions.