View Full Version : Decisions, Decisions

10-03-2005, 04:06 PM
Returning from patrol, I stumbled upon an unreported Task Force east of Scotland. I was on the surface, and they appeared off my bow at 7000km headed east. Fired off a contact report and dove to periscope depth to analyze the situation. Determining they were doing 21 knots, I couldn't intercept without risking my boat. Sneaking the periscope up to try and gather more intel, two destroyers came within 5000km. Total, 12 ships, one of which I ID'ed as the King George at about 8000km. I'm now second guessing my decision. I based it on the fact our main goal is to choke off supplies to the allies, and I'm inexperienced. But taking the K.G at sea would have been a nice trophy, had we lived, which I had serious doubts about. She's steaming north of Scotland towards Scapa Flow if anybody wants her.

10-03-2005, 04:14 PM
i dont know your loadout or exact position in relation to convoy, but it wouldnt change my advise at all. try and knock out the propellors/engine of the king george and wait for DD's to carry on, as far as i am aware they will not hang around to protect the BB.

if you miss at least you can report you attempted.

good luck

10-03-2005, 06:54 PM
If I see a ship that is a high value target like that and I am just within T1 range, I take the shot. I parallel by boat to theirs and give them all six tubes before they can get away.
BDU would love you if you sank one of those. You would get more than just a "Keep up the good work". At least in the real world. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Besides that...THINK OF THE RENOWN!

10-03-2005, 09:36 PM

€œI based it on the fact our main goal is to choke off supplies to the allies, and I'm inexperienced.€

Now you€re less-so.

€œI'm now second guessing my decision.€

Assess it in its totality and learn from it all you can, but don€t €˜second guess;€ don€t leave yourself in the lurch like that.
Tough decision and you made one. Stand with it.
The imperative difference will come from the honest assessment after-the-fact, so that what you chose given all the factors present at the time, will not become a precedent & model for future instances.

€œ..and I'm inexperienced.€

Survival is the foremost prerequisite for accumulation and application of experience.
Don€t forget the old & all-too-true adage €" wisdom is the greater part of valor.

Best, & good hunting!
~ C.


10-04-2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Chrystine:
Don€t forget the old & all-too-true adage €" wisdom is the greater part of valor.

I thought Falstaff advised that discretion was the better part of valor? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SilentSwine: Just kick allied butt and see what happens! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

10-04-2005, 07:38 AM

€œI thought Falstaff advised that discretion was the better part of valor?€ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Indeed. So said Falstaff (in a fashion).
As a general maxim for military Command, to speak of €˜wisdom€ rather than discretion renders the truthfulness more-plainly I think €" independent of Falstaff€s €˜sophism,€ prompted by a coward€s pang of conscience.

Taken quite apart from Falstaff & the maxim€s anti-hero, Hotspur €" either word will do. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

..Good perceptiveness €¦

~ C.


10-04-2005, 09:15 AM
8000m is a long shot and it does not get any better if they are doing 21 knots...

...I guess I'd shot, set at 2-3 meters impact fuse and dive away...You might hit something?

Which brings me to an interesting question...Knowing that the (surviving) u-boat kapitans kept meticulous torpedo logs, I wonder if we could plot a histogram of distance of torpedo shots...?

10-04-2005, 01:50 PM
Shots over 2000 meters were regarded as long distance shots. I don't see any reason to waste a torpedo in an objective that is scarcely apearing over the horizont -unless if is a major battleship. So this kind of shots should be only a small percentage of the total.

10-04-2005, 06:27 PM
Thanks for all the input. Thinking the whole thing over again the best I could have done was one or two of the closest escorts. As a rule I don't chase down warships, I only attack ones that stumble across my path. I'm glad I hung on to my torps, I'm having the best patrol of my career so far. Taking advantage of a couple weeks of good weather, getting a lot of use out of the deck gun. 41,000 tons and 5 torps left, still hunting!