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jamesblonde1979
04-15-2009, 04:20 AM
For some time now I have been sans joystick. It was terrible, the first few months were the worst and the rest were awful but I finally got around to purchasing an interim stick.

I've owned a couple of Logitech Wingman Pro sticks in the past and, whilst they work extremely well initially, they seem to sag on me after a while so I thought I would try something different...

I bought a Saitek Cyborg Evo.

My first impression was of how light the thing was, I even considered glueing it to a bit of PCP, I doubt it weighs much over a kilo.

I was a bit put off by this at first but I soon found that the light touch I use when flying meant that it's weight (or lack of it) wasn't an issue.

The buttons are another hurdle I balked at at first. On my first strike mission In managed to fire a rocket and all my guns at once because the buttons are so sensitive.

This pretty much now equates to me to more precise aiming and less misses due to trigger pull disruption which was a pain on the Logitech.

The top two buttons are much more ergonomically placed on the Evo and I use them for FOV, on the Logi I rarely used them at all.

The buttons on the main body of the thing seem a bit useless, I have one assigned to wheel brakes to facillitate easier taxiing but I doubt the rest will be much use as they get pressed accidentally all the time.

The adjustable wrist rest is a great idea, it can be configured for both dexterities although the designers at Saitek must have some pretty curious ideas about the size of the average human hand. (Either that or they plan to make the Evo available to gorillas.

The general feel of the thing is a lot more 'mechanical' in that the Logitech felt more like a toy but the Evo sits in my hand like a piece of hardware.

And it has lights... OOOOOooooohhhhhh. Pretty colours.

All up I'm pretty happy with it, 8/10.

DKoor
04-15-2009, 04:39 AM
I have Cyborg for 4 years now (can't really remember exactly lol).
Gives you real good run for your money, that's for surehttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

danjama
04-15-2009, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:
8/10.

I bought a Cyborg Evo about a month ago when i started flying again, and i agree with your review. It's really a great joystick. RE: the base buttons, i have the left 2 mapped to bombs and rockets, but the right are completely useless like u say. A shame really. I recommend the stick to anyone.

DKoor
04-15-2009, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:
8/10.

I bought a Cyborg Evo about a month ago when i started flying again, and i agree with your review. It's really a great joystick. RE: the base buttons, i have the left 2 mapped to bombs and rockets, but the right are completely useless like u say. A shame really. I recommend the stick to anyone. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Or... left are completely useless?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
It's a good design... suited for right and left handed peoplehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
BTW I mapped left F2 button to brakeshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, left > button to bombs... rockets are spacebar (keyboard) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif.

Segwin
04-15-2009, 07:36 AM
The Saitek X-52 Pro is another nice stick. It is very programmable as well.

All in all I like Saitek stuff.

triad773
04-15-2009, 08:28 AM
I've had one for... couple of years if I remember correctly. It's been good for me so far.

I just had taken off the wrist rest for a change. Also playing with the idea of either extending the shaft on it or making a slender pedestal to make it somewhat more ergonomically accurate.

Nice stick- no complaints from me really.

danjama
04-15-2009, 08:36 AM
Yea i took the rest off for a bit but i realised my arm would get tired on long-ish flights http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Mr_Zooly
04-15-2009, 11:43 AM
Mine is about 4 years old also but its almost as responsive as the day I bought it, I had a Logicrap Wingman before the 'Borg and it was frustrating as hell to use/configure, when my stick goes south I'm getting the Cyborg X.

raaaid
04-15-2009, 11:44 AM
had one for like 5 years still use it

awesome

DKoor
04-15-2009, 11:48 AM
Eh... I also have brand new X-45, never used it!
I guess I will once my ole borg dies...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I never could get used to X-45's rocker rudder, that has to be the worst joystick rudder control ever!

munitions-magne
04-15-2009, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:
Eh... I also have brand new X-45, never used it!
I guess I will once my ole borg dies...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I never could get used to X-45's rocker rudder, that has to be the worst joystick rudder control ever!

Dont use the rocker rudder - it crap. Pair the X-45 with some real rudder (I have the Saiteks) and its a nice piece of kit

T_O_A_D
04-16-2009, 01:07 PM
That rocker rudder is the only reason I still keep using my x-45 throttle.

It has a use, Be sure!

DKoor
04-16-2009, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
That rocker rudder is the only reason I still keep using my x-45 throttle.

It has a use, Be sure! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
04-16-2009, 02:10 PM
Twist rudder is really intuitive when you are using it but once you make the effort to get used to the rocker or get some pedals you will realize just how imprecise your rudder control was with twist, not to mention that you realize the rudder inputs you were making interfered with your stick movements.

jamesblonde1979
04-16-2009, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:

BTW I mapped left F2 button to brakeshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif,

That's the same one I used !

Great minds...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
04-16-2009, 09:34 PM
I have a Cyborg Evo Force and an old Cyborg Gold USB. They both work great. That new cyborg X looks pretty neat too. I used the Force with my X52 throttle for some time but I ended up going with the X52 stick again due to better control with it's longer throw.