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Asas_Portuga1
02-15-2008, 03:07 AM
i'm proud to anouce that after "zilions" of crashes, i got my self a very first kill of a figter.

My aircraft: La-7

AI aircraft: P-51

I'm wont to pay a tribute to all that in this forum generosly help me with their posts:

TANKS ALL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

(sorry if i'm forgeting someone but u guysr so many):

ZEUS-CAT
XIOLABU
LEITMOTIV
GIAP_CHURA
MOH_MADMAN
TSMOKE
AIMAILL101
URUFU-SHINDIRO
WI8SIK (POST TO MY MAIL)
CRASH_MOSES
ANAK774
BEARCAT99
WALDO-PEPPER
AFJ_RSM

and mny more
who anser my posts

I know i did not save my trk to post ( my bad) ,so that u guys confirme, i'll do that next time , don´t know when http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, , but now i'm pretty hapy.

c ya


asas

mmitch10
02-15-2008, 03:33 AM
Hey, congratulations, it's a great feeling to get that first kill!

GIAP.Shura
02-15-2008, 03:45 AM
Congrats there Asas. I complement you on your choice of aircraft. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

If you need a helping hand getting online just give us a shout.

Asas_Portuga1
02-15-2008, 04:08 AM
Tanks for the suport G and M.

Giap,

i think i don´t have the skills to go online just yet. I belive this kill had a bit practice and bit of luck also.

asas

Feathered_IV
02-15-2008, 04:26 AM
i'm proud to anouce that after "zilions" of crashes, i got my self a very first kill of a figter.

My aircraft: La-7

AI aircraft: P-51

Hmm. Interesting idea for an online mission. Reds vs US in an unofficial scrap over Bessarabia. Russians quietly briefed to skirmish with US long range escorts. US airstarts briefed to not back down to aggressive moves by their so-called allies....

Klemm.co
02-15-2008, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">i'm proud to anouce that after "zilions" of crashes, i got my self a very first kill of a figter.

My aircraft: La-7

AI aircraft: P-51

Hmm. Interesting idea for an online mission. Reds vs US in an unofficial scrap over Bessarabia. Russians quietly briefed to skirmish with US long range escorts. US airstarts briefed to not back down to aggressive moves by their so-called allies.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I would definitely take a P 51 in that scenario.
La 7's are just too slow to contend.
Would be a very interesting scenario though.
Mix in a few 190 D's (so the Luftwaffe can interfere also) and it would be very fun.
I'd put the 51's and 190 D's on the blue side and La's on the Red side. Or better yet make three sides. That should be possible.

buzzsaw1939
02-15-2008, 05:03 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

ShaK.
02-15-2008, 07:13 AM
Congrat!!!
Just wait until you get you first online kill.
Times that feeling you got by a million!

leitmotiv
02-15-2008, 07:58 AM
Way to go, Ace! Took me ages to shoot down an AI fighter. I contented myself for weeks and weeks on end target practice shooting with a Finnish Hurricane I against dead duck Sov SBs!

Asas_Portuga1
02-15-2008, 08:27 AM
HI Leitmotiv,

i'll keep on practice my flying. I hope i can get another kill to post, but priority is to be able to control the plane as good as u guys.

cheers

asas

Rjel
02-15-2008, 08:32 AM
Congrats Asas_Portugal. Some might scoff, but I still remember my first AI kill in Lucas Arts BoB:Their Finest Hour.

There's a pretty good article in this month's issue of Flight Journal about an air battle between Yaks and Mustangs late in the war. Of course the P-51s came out on top. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Seriously, I know of at least one other fight that took place between U.S. and Soviet fighters. There were probably others.

SeaFireLIV
02-15-2008, 08:49 AM
Congratulations.

No way can I remember my first AI kill.

M_Gunz
02-15-2008, 09:33 AM
It's just so good to be there when they take their first steps!
Well, at least I got to hear about it and I think another kitten has learned to kill!

Asas_Portuga1
02-15-2008, 09:40 AM
Hi Rjel,

tanks for the suport. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

As far as the US versus USSR figth concerne, i'm a bit surprised. after all, they were alies, so there wasn't no aparent reason for two alies figthers, enter in a dogfitgh.

but one can never know.

tanks agains

asas

Asas_Portuga1
02-15-2008, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by M_Gunz:
It's just so good to be there when they take their first steps!
Well, at least I got to hear about it and I think another kitten has learned to kill!

yep.

i'm just a litle kitten yet.

but it felt really GOOD, when i saw that P-51 in flames.

c ya

asas

leitmotiv
02-15-2008, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Asas_Portuga1:
HI Leitmotiv,

i'll keep on practice my flying. I hope i can get another kill to post, but priority is to be able to control the plane as good as u guys.

cheers

asas


Er, it is my hope you will control your virtual mount far better than I!


http://www.vord.net/609/drem/heinkel_crashed.jpg

AFJ_rsm
02-15-2008, 10:07 AM
congrats!

Asas_Portuga1
02-15-2008, 10:33 AM
i'll keep u post it, leitmotiv.

i'm gonna practice ACM like hell to change my crash statistics (8,5 out of 10) and shoot down some more AI figters.

Jennifer720
02-20-2008, 08:57 PM
I remember my first too....seems like it was just yesterday. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Originally posted by Rjel:
Congrats Asas_Portugal. Some might scoff, but I still remember my first AI kill in Lucas Arts BoB:Their Finest Hour.

There's a pretty good article in this month's issue of Flight Journal about an air battle between Yaks and Mustangs late in the war. Of course the P-51s came out on top. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Seriously, I know of at least one other fight that took place between U.S. and Soviet fighters. There were probably others.

kameron1974
02-20-2008, 09:11 PM
Try some Mig 3s. They light up quite nicely.
Then take an FW 190 and go after some Sturmoviks. Thats the best.

M_Gunz
02-21-2008, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Asas_Portuga1:
but it felt really GOOD, when i saw that P-51 in flames.

c ya

asas

May it always feel so good!

BWaltteri
02-21-2008, 10:16 AM
I've played the game probably half a year, I started with 1.0 on a slow machine and I don't think I hit anything with my I-16.

I got a better machine and I trained myself to shoot down a bomber, I probably flew a Brewster and I tried to down a SB-2.

Then I tried to shoot an unarmed fighter but that took a considerably long run to succeed.

BismarckIV
02-21-2008, 01:45 PM
haha yeah. I don't remember my first AI kill, but I remember my first and only online kill. Happened about a year and a half ago (before I stopped playing and forgot my forums account). I was in a P47 and shredded the guy's controls.

There's nothing like watching your enemy tilt slightly and gently careen into a small hillside that's for sure!

Asas_Portuga1
02-22-2008, 03:07 AM
hi
BismarK and BWalteri,

i'm no expert as u gyus can problably notice, but with some great tips from several members, i got that kills. I'm not playing online, yet, cause if, i did i'm pretty shore, that, every one, would say: "here's the siting Duck again" LOL

ASAS

BWaltteri
02-22-2008, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by Asas_Portuga1:
hi
BismarK and BWalteri,

i'm no expert as u gyus can problably notice, but with some great tips from several members, i got that kills. I'm not playing online, yet, cause if, i did i'm pretty shore, that, every one, would say: "here's the siting Duck again" LOL

ASAS

It's always safe to fly at home. I don't know if I ever venture online.

Asas_Portuga1
02-22-2008, 03:32 AM
totally agree.althoug, i'll would like to venture myself one of these days online, when i get the abilities to do so.

Maybe by the end of 2008. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cheers

asas

gizmo60
02-22-2008, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by BWaltteri:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Asas_Portuga1:
hi
BismarK and BWalteri,

i'm no expert as u gyus can problably notice, but with some great tips from several members, i got that kills. I'm not playing online, yet, cause if, i did i'm pretty shore, that, every one, would say: "here's the siting Duck again" LOL

ASAS

It's always safe to fly at home. I don't know if I ever venture online. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


dont worry about it, just jump in and have a go.
you wont be alone because im also one of those sitting ducks but it is still great fun. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
i also seem to learn 10 times quicker online although good energy management still eludes me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
go on, you know you want to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Asas_Portuga1
02-25-2008, 02:18 AM
Hi gizmo,

sorry about the late reply.

about going online, i belive in u, when u say it's a great experince, but i guess would be a danger to others( not that i would take them out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) as well to my self ... LOL

but i gotta try

asas

M_Gunz
02-25-2008, 04:34 AM
If you try to learn to fly *while* learning to fight then you will not be any good at either.
That puts you in the same class as the rest of the Mudhens.

back when Oleg used to post here ("ancient times" of this forum) people would send tracks of
how this plane or that "can't do" this or that. Time and time he would answer "Learn To Fly!".
He did work as a test pilot before.

Asas_Portuga1
02-25-2008, 05:04 AM
I understand the first part of your post and i totally agree. In fact, i'm reading a lot of stuff, and i'll start over again. I meen, i'm going back to basics, learn to fly, and practice BCM. U guys, allways said that, and i didn´t listen, cause i wanted to fly as an ACE , fast and hard, but i need to learn the basics first and control the plane as goood as i can.

But, i'm not shore i understand wath u mean in the second paragrafh.

asas

alert_1
02-25-2008, 11:30 AM
One I play online scenario West vs. East that is Spits, P51, J38L against La7, Il10, Yak 3P. Guess what side win the map everytime?

Xiolablu3
02-25-2008, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Asas_Portuga1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

I understand the first part of your post and i totally agree. In fact, i'm reading a lot of stuff, and i'll start over again. I meen, i'm going back to basics, learn to fly, and practice BCM. U guys, allways said that, and i didn´t listen, cause i wanted to fly as an ACE , fast and hard, but i need to learn the basics first and control the plane as goood as i can.

But, i'm not shore i understand wath u mean in the second paragrafh.

asas </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What he means is that pilots are very quick to blame the plane/game for their poor flying.

Some time ago the forum was full of moans and whines about how 'X plane was not good enough' or 'Y plane was too good', but its much better these days as mnost people now know to look at themselves before they blame/moan at the game.

SeaFireLIV
02-25-2008, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:


What he means is that pilots are very quick to blame the plane/game for their poor flying.

Some time ago the forum was full of moans and whines about how 'X plane was not good enough' or 'Y plane was too good', but its much better these days as mnost people now know to look at themselves before they blame/moan at the game.

Yes, it was a nightmare in the early days. So many people thought they were all fighter pilots and knew how the aircraft should work. there were so many stupid accusations mostly based from a selfish `my country` and `I should be as good as my Ace in books` threads. You wouldn`t believe it, even people posting Charts and guncam footage to try and back up THEIR version of things while ignoring the obvious things they didn`t want to see, like, they didn`t actually know how an aircraft should be behave. The thing is, I could see how biased they all were (with only a few genuine concerns) and I am no aeronautical engineer. That`s how obvious it was.

Many had to break their aerial fantasy before they could fly IL2.

It IS much better now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BTW, I think you can learn to fly while fighting, you just get shot down a lot before it sinks in, we get second , third and fourth chances to try again... many pilots in real life didn`t get a second chance.

Asas_Portuga1
02-26-2008, 03:17 AM
Ok. understood.


well thanks to u guys, i abandon the posture "I should be as good as my Ace in books` that SEaFire talk about. First it was stupid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif, and secondly, it leave me no were, cause i believe i need to enjoy the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif, in order to learn.

Well, now i having some tecnical probs. in my DVD http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif, and i can´t apply the tips u all give me. But i'm ansious to play again and began practice and improve my self.

I'll keep u guys post it.

thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
asas

Asas_Portuga1
02-27-2008, 03:33 AM
thanks,Familyman

but, i still have a lot to learn.

asas

Asas_Portuga1
02-27-2008, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:


What he means is that pilots are very quick to blame the plane/game for their poor flying.

Some time ago the forum was full of moans and whines about how 'X plane was not good enough' or 'Y plane was too good', but its much better these days as mnost people now know to look at themselves before they blame/moan at the game.

Yes, it was a nightmare in the early days. So many people thought they were all fighter pilots and knew how the aircraft should work. there were so many stupid accusations mostly based from a selfish `my country` and `I should be as good as my Ace in books` threads. You wouldn`t believe it, even people posting Charts and guncam footage to try and back up THEIR version of things while ignoring the obvious things they didn`t want to see, like, they didn`t actually know how an aircraft should be behave. The thing is, I could see how biased they all were (with only a few genuine concerns) and I am no aeronautical engineer. That`s how obvious it was.

Many had to break their aerial fantasy before they could fly IL2.

It IS much better now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BTW, I think you can learn to fly while fighting, you just get shot down a lot before it sinks in, we get second , third and fourth chances to try again... many pilots in real life didn`t get a second chance. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,

My DVD is allready good. So, last nigth i started my practice.

First, i chose my plane: a Yak 1. Bad choise ? u tell me. and this time i will stick to this one. i like it.

My practice was: level fligth, trim, and executing this BCM manouvers, split s, barrel roll, High Speed yo-yo, Hammerhead,Immelmann, break turn.

Off couse, i crash i lot, but it was fun when i did once the all sequence, without crashing.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
ASAS

M_Gunz
02-27-2008, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
What he means is that pilots are very quick to blame the plane/game for their poor flying.

Some time ago the forum was full of moans and whines about how 'X plane was not good enough' or 'Y plane was too good', but its much better these days as mnost people now know to look at themselves before they blame/moan at the game.

That is a lot of it. There are people not whining that still don't know why they get 'wrong
results'. They stop short of the whine at least though that is not all of them. How to expect
a plane flying with 5 or 10 degrees of slip or fewer degrees nose high to be as good as the real
one flown correctly? Or an autopilot the bobs the nose up and down rapidly to keep a flat
course to match a smoothly flown plane for that matter?

This NOT to say that IL2 flight model is complete or perfect or super close. It is NOT to say
that in certain conditions a difference in margins between planes will not seem large.
Computer model is not reality, small differences do add up over time.

ADD: The changes in the 4.xx versions of the model did introduce more realism of torque and
prop effects and greater need of proper use of rudder. More need than any PC sim I ever saw!
And there was much wailing over stalls and spins especially from those who did not and some
still do not know the difference, for them it is all one event resulting in spin.

ASAS, Salute!
Practice flying a tilted ellipse/egg shape with the wide curve down low and the small end
up higher. See how fast you can get that going and how harder or less hard turns at each
end (one at a time) affect your speed. In time you will begin to know how much angle change
you can squeeze out of your plane *at different speeds*.
This is a very practical exercise in a few different ways. One is that you will know how
wide you should fight with that plane, to not get suckered in to too hard turns and lose
your speed -- your ability to gain height. Another is in the use of height to control your
speed and change your ability to turn.
If the low end has you going past ground targets then you can learn the better ways to line
up and shoot without blowing your speed.
Don't forget trim, if the ellipse is not small then you will have time; trim for your speed!

GIAP.Shura
02-27-2008, 05:38 AM
The Yak is a good plane to fly in but I would favour the Yak-1b instead of the Yak-1 as it has a slightly more powerful MG and, more importantly, great rear visibility. The Yak 3 is an excellent fighter for the early half of the war. These aircraft have very docile stall characteristics and they are really forgiving.

Asas_Portuga1
02-27-2008, 07:33 AM
Thanks, GIAP.

i'll try the YAK-1b today, and post u back later to report my opinion on the mater. what do u think of my training plan? Ok, bad, more or less?

asas

Xiolablu3
02-27-2008, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Asas_Portuga1:
Ok. understood.


well thanks to u guys, i abandon the posture "I should be as good as my Ace in books` that SEaFire talk about. First it was stupid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif, and secondly, it leave me no were, cause i believe i need to enjoy the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif, in order to learn.

Well, now i having some tecnical probs. in my DVD http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif, and i can´t apply the tips u all give me. But i'm ansious to play again and began practice and improve my self.

I'll keep u guys post it.

thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
asas


We were NOT talking about you Asas http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)) Just some other people.


By the way what problems are you having with your DVD? A lot of us had problems with our IL2 DVD's in some players.

There is a well known fix, private topic me if you have this problem, I will help you. (If you dont know how to private topic, tell me)

M_Gunz
02-27-2008, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
We were NOT talking about you Asas http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)) Just some other people.

For sure ASAS has come here with an excellent attitude towards learning.
I think it pays off well, he gets most help with least hassle. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I have a d-skin (yes, sounds a bit obscene) (http://www.d-skin.com/) on my 1946 DVD.
Look Ma, no scratches! Safe hex, my disc wears 'protection'! LOL!

I control drive speed with Nero Drivespeed as well but at 1x the read is too slow for the
copy protection so I run 16x to start up then back to silent mode before IL2 takes over.
I should try lower speeds anyway.

SeaFireLIV
02-27-2008, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Asas_Portuga1:
Ok. understood.


well thanks to u guys, i abandon the posture "I should be as good as my Ace in books` that SEaFire talk about. First it was stupid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif, and secondly, it leave me no were, cause i believe i need to enjoy the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif, in order to learn.

asas

Just to confirm what the others already knew and explained (thanks guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif).

I wasn`t talking about you, Asus. I was talking about previously and in general. Your attitude has been great. You have proven an honest wish to learn. Wish more were like that.

Keep at it.

GIAP.Shura
02-28-2008, 03:59 AM
Your training regime seems like a good starting point Asas. At the very least, it will get you familiar with the boundaries of the flight envelope. However, one problem is that nearly all these maneuvers will bleed your speed and energy very quickly. With the exception of the High Speed yo-yo, they are all "save your bacon" defensive maneuvers.

Something that is often undervalued by new pilots is the ability to maintain maximum energy possible, even through turns. If you can keep your energy, and thus your reservoir of speed, high you can control the fight. Keeping your slipball centred while maneuvring is a key skill to mainting an offensive position. I would advise practising wingovers (a bit like a gentler hammerhead) and chandelles. Check out this film for more details:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2173987943620971067&q

These also develop familiarity to 3-dimensional maneuvring.

Now, personally I don't like the Hammerhead itself. It's great for developing control over the aircraft at very low speeds and unusual attitudes but in a combat situation you are voluntarily putting yourself in a situation of low speed with limited control of your aircraft and only one exit option. The only situation where it could be of use is if you know that the enemy is following you and will stall out before you do and you are gambling that he is not a good enough shot to take out you plane as it rises. What's more there might not be only one enemy plane around. Do you really want to be lolling around in a vertical rudder turn with someone booming in on you?

Anyway, good to see you got your DVD problem sorted and you seem to be having a blast flying. Always great to see. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

gizmo60
02-28-2008, 07:05 AM
been following this thread with interest as im in the same boat as asas

keep the tips coming http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

found this during a search, it may be helpful to some

http://www.regia-aeronautica.com/acm.htm

M_Gunz
02-28-2008, 07:23 AM
Excellent find Shura! There is also the one on formation flying, limk above and right of the
video shown.

Asas_Portuga1
02-28-2008, 07:41 AM
Gizmo,
Did hi ever mention that u r my hero ? LOL

GREAT link http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif i hope will improve my game, as well as yours . Thanks

asas

Asas_Portuga1
02-28-2008, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by GIAP.Shura:
Your training regime seems like a good starting point Asas. At the very least, it will get you familiar with the boundaries of the flight envelope. However, one problem is that nearly all these maneuvers will bleed your speed and energy very quickly. With the exception of the High Speed yo-yo, they are all "save your bacon" defensive maneuvers.

Something that is often undervalued by new pilots is the ability to maintain maximum energy possible, even through turns. If you can keep your energy, and thus your reservoir of speed, high you can control the fight. Keeping your slipball centred while maneuvring is a key skill to mainting an offensive position. I would advise practising wingovers (a bit like a gentler hammerhead) and chandelles. Check out this film for more details:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2173987943620971067&q

These also develop familiarity to 3-dimensional maneuvring.

Now, personally I don't like the Hammerhead itself. It's great for developing control over the aircraft at very low speeds and unusual attitudes but in a combat situation you are voluntarily putting yourself in a situation of low speed with limited control of your aircraft and only one exit option. The only situation where it could be of use is if you know that the enemy is following you and will stall out before you do and you are gambling that he is not a good enough shot to take out you plane as it rises. What's more there might not be only one enemy plane around. Do you really want to be lolling around in a vertical rudder turn with someone booming in on you?

Anyway, good to see you got your DVD problem sorted and you seem to be having a blast flying. Always great to see. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Hi GIap,

as far as the DVD concerne, i 've talked too soon, cause i'm having problems with the device again. well, i post it Xiolablu, describing to problem, cause as he told me i think there had been a lot of problems with IL2 DVD's. i'm waiting to see.

concerning my training, your opinion is most helpful http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif, and i'm going to change the pratice accordind (?) to what u said. No more Hammerhead, cause i have similar opinion, so i'll pratice other maneuvers.And, today, Gizmo, send me a GREAT link with Real videos, of maneuvers. So, i guess i have material to pratice. When my DVD start working properly, of course. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

cy a

asas

gizmo60
02-28-2008, 04:01 PM
oh and dont forget to record your flights and fights..

that way you can watch your mistakes over and over and over http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Asas_Portuga1
02-29-2008, 02:42 AM
i allready did. u can see them in post "NTRKS AS I PROMISE"

asas

M_Gunz
02-29-2008, 03:31 AM
You also need to review your own tracks when things do not work as should, to find out why.
Sometimes also to see what did work in shooting if you get hits by luck, find out why.
It will help you improve. If you don't find out why then ask. Otherwise you could invent
bad lessons for yourself.

Asas_Portuga1
02-29-2008, 04:05 AM
oK, THANKS.

I did realized, when i made those traks that i send u guys, that sometimes (i guess most of times http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif) i'm getting hits by luck.


I'll as u say, as soon as my DVD works properly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


But, thanks anyway, M_Gunz, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

asas