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RevvinUK
09-30-2006, 10:20 AM
Debby McDowell, Director of Sales and Marketing at CH Products has announced that the next product to be released by CH Products will be the Multi Function Panel (MFP). This new product incorporates the programmability of the CH Control Manager software with technology from Ergodex to provide a versatile panel that will appeal to fans of all gaming genre's as well as being a useful device for daily computer use. Up to 16 Multi Function Panels can be connected providing up to 12,800 button combinations. You can read Debby McDowell's press release here (http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3518) at the CH Hangar.

http://www.ch-hangar.com/SiteFiles/Images/news/mfp-1.jpg

The layout in the picture above was created by Michael Sexton at CH Products for use with IL-2 (CH Products had IL-2 running in their cockpits at E3 and Oleg dropped by for a quick spin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) The ADI and compass are just static images but the keys can be moved around to create different layouts depending on what you want to use it for so pit builders might be interested in this, but then I think it will be useful for racing sims and FPS games too.

slipBall
09-30-2006, 10:29 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Looks good, I can use that

RevvinUK
09-30-2006, 10:53 AM
The Ergodex board its basically a flat panel which has some fancy technology that allows you to stick buttons to the clear plastic tray. The keys stick to the tray without any adhesive and if you get the bottom of the keys dirty a quick wipe with a damp cloth and they are good as new, don't ask me how it works..magic pixie dust I believe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You can arrange the keys in any configuration you like and map commands to those buttons. If you want to move a key you simply twist it off the board and reposition it but unless you twist the key in a certain way it sticks to the board rock solid without any adhesive (I tried it at E3, you'll break the button before you yank it off the panel!)

slipBall
09-30-2006, 11:00 AM
How do the panels conect...USB?

RevvinUK
09-30-2006, 11:01 AM
Yes USB

slipBall
09-30-2006, 11:18 AM
Well it looks to be a great idea, and a perfect Xmas gift for myself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I like the idea of placeing the keys in any configuration. a circle would be good for views, and a verticle rectangle would be good for the bombing controls....I could go on http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif...I like it already, and I havent gotten one yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

RevvinUK
09-30-2006, 11:43 AM
And you could do just that, and also have a cluster for radio commands to AI wingmen or perhaps a whole set of bombing commands all labelled so you know exactly which buttons does what. I think you deserve one, g'wan treat yourself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, you could drop hints to your loved ones of course but you may end up with more socks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

heywooood
09-30-2006, 12:04 PM
"as well as daily computer use"....yeah I can just see my employer watching me hook that thing up at work and then using it to input orders and track shipments and monitor inventory....lol

Sordid_Sinister
09-30-2006, 12:20 PM
Somehow I don't find it too appealing. I have enough clutter around, the last thing I need is a fancy-shaped keyboard.

horseback
09-30-2006, 12:45 PM
I for one am lusting in my heart.

I've tried a number of different controller setups in an attempt to get away from the keyboard, and the magic word "axis" was included in the press release. A programmable trim axis or three would be a Very Good Thing.

cheers

horseback

Airmail109
09-30-2006, 01:15 PM
It looks like a POS from the 80s im sorry, Plastic - tacky and horrible....

TooCooL34
09-30-2006, 01:34 PM
I'm a fanboy of CH, but hey, this product is nightmare. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif ffb..ffb.. ffb.

slipBall
09-30-2006, 02:00 PM
12,800 possible buttons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Dr2GunzOD
09-30-2006, 02:04 PM
cant wait to see what the talented members of the community do with it. definitely added to my list of future purchases.

RevvinUK
09-30-2006, 02:09 PM
The panel can be made to look however you want it, bristling with graphics or minimalist. The good thing is there are some talented guys in the community who can create some nice graphical overlays and also there are already command files (.cmc) in place for many sims so using the Control Manager software its simple to add to your existing profiles. You can find profiles and .cmc files at the CH Hangar which is linked in my sig <S>

Abbeville-Boy
10-01-2006, 06:23 AM
just thought i would mention that the latest control manager v4.10 just released at ch

http://www.chproducts.com/retail/tech_control_manager.html

this got rid of some problems i had http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

RevvinUK
10-07-2006, 11:17 AM
CH users will know of the great versatility of the Control Manager software, you don't just have to map straight forward key commands to buttons. Whatever you can do with a joystick button you can do with a button on the MFP. For instance in my IL-2 profile I have a button which when pressed opens the map and moves the mouse cursor to the place on the screen where the pop up window appears so I can press another button to zoom. If I wanted I could also have the same button that opens the map and moves the cursor ro also hold down the mouse button so I can pan the map around by moving the ministick on my Pro Throttle which I have mapped to the mouse axis. I also have a button on my CH HOTAS which when pressed switches the X and Y axis from my Fighterstick to my Yoke, instantaneous and without havingto load any new profiles or make changes to IL-2's control setup. I like to have this programmed because I like to fly bombers and fighters online. You could also program a fail safe key so you can't eject or drop bombs until a certain sequence of keys has been activated.

slipBall
10-07-2006, 11:33 AM
Revin...would you know the size of the panel, and the size of the add-on panel's....just doing a little planning...thanks

RevvinUK
10-07-2006, 12:56 PM
It about 11 inches wide and 93/8 high

AKA_TAGERT
10-07-2006, 01:06 PM
I see some guages and stuff.. does this thign work with DeviceLink?

RevvinUK
10-07-2006, 02:22 PM
No the dials and guages are static images that were used to give the layout a more realistic look when it was used at this years E3 on CH Products booth (Oleg dropped by for a quick spin - 1C's booth was just down the hall)

RevvinUK
10-12-2006, 12:12 PM
CH Products are now taking pre-orders for the MFP and I have some new hi-res pictures of the MFP here (http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3564) at the CH Hangar as well as news on the price.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Irish_Rogues
10-12-2006, 01:37 PM
If better deals then the MSRP can be found, I'll have someone get me one for Christmas. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RevvinUK
10-12-2006, 03:31 PM
Typically the MSRP is always higher than what you'd pay at a local dealer, in that thread I linked I gave the example of the Throttle Quadrant's MSRP of $199.95 yet online I can pick one up for $130 at Provantage or $160 at Amazon.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Ernst_Rohr
10-12-2006, 03:50 PM
That is nothing more that CH rebranding the exsisting Ergodex panel.

I will be dollars to donuts that the CH software is merely incorporating the exsisting Ergodex programing software.

The Ergodex is a killer device. It is very solid, and reliable. I have been using one for almost a year now, and its a GREAT add on for any flight sim. The other nice thing is that you can buy additional buttons, and program them seperately and affix them to the top panel.

Change sims, and you can just swap panels real quick and be up and running.

It is NOT a real MFD. It is a flat panel with a beveled edge to give it a bit of an angle. The keys can then be distributed however you wish and then configured to emulate single buttons, a combination of keystokes, or a long macro, or any combination of the above.

The Ergodex rocks.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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BillyTheKid_22
10-12-2006, 03:56 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif wow!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RevvinUK
10-12-2006, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Ernst_Rohr:
That is nothing more that CH rebranding the exsisting Ergodex panel.

Wrong - the CH MFP is of course based on the Ergodex with changes made to allow more than one device to be connected, 16 in fact where you can only connect 1 Ergodex DX1, the Control Manager software takes the MFP far beyond the programmability of the DX1


Originally posted by Ernst_Rohr:
I will be dollars to donuts that the CH software is merely incorporating the exsisting Ergodex programing software.

Wrong - The CH Control Manager software code belongs to CH, Bob Church developed the code to make it programmable through the Control Manager software


Originally posted by Ernst_Rohr:
The Ergodex is a killer device. It is very solid, and reliable. I have been using one for almost a year now, and its a GREAT add on for any flight sim. The other nice thing is that you can buy additional buttons, and program them seperately and affix them to the top panel.

Change sims, and you can just swap panels real quick and be up and running.

If you are content with the DX1 and it does all you want it to then great, but for others they want a little more and will get it from the CH MFP, there are other solutionssuch as the xkeys, all great products and all do things a little differently.


Originally posted by Ernst_Rohr:
It is NOT a real MFD. It is a flat panel with a beveled edge to give it a bit of an angle. The keys can then be distributed however you wish and then configured to emulate single buttons, a combination of keystokes, or a long macro, or any combination of the above.

The Ergodex rocks.

It has'nt been marketed as an MFD and CH were quite clear when it came to naming the device on making it clear if was not a multi function display but rather a multi function panel. The name is quite clear. The Ergodex does rock and I think the MFP will be even better.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bearcat99
10-12-2006, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Revvin_UK:
And you could do just that, and also have a cluster for radio commands to AI wingmen or perhaps a whole set of bombing commands all labelled so you know exactly which buttons does what. I think you deserve one, g'wan treat yourself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, you could drop hints to your loved ones of course but you may end up with more socks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Rev I gotta tell ya.... for the AI VAC (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2/il2_essential_files.htm#047) is the ticket man.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RevvinUK
10-13-2006, 12:28 AM
I've used Game Commander, Game Voice and VAC and although they can be handy they can be a pain to get working properly.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TgD Thunderbolt56
10-13-2006, 06:39 AM
I'm all about slapping one of these in my A-B pit!

...be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


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Flying_Nutcase
10-13-2006, 07:08 AM
Hi Revvin,

You helped me to get setup with my H HOTAS quite a while back. Thx for that.

The MFP looks really interesting, and a further move away from the keyboard. Nice. I'll definitely consider it. Immersion...hmmm.

Re. AI commands: I use Shift_E's VAC and I really think it's one of the 'must haves' for the sim. The best $10 money can buy IMHO and reliable as hell. I just had to mention that as a loyal user of Voice Activated Commands. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Anyway, maybe the MFP for Xmas. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RevvinUK
10-13-2006, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Flying_Nutcase:
Hi Revvin,

You helped me to get setup with my H HOTAS quite a while back. Thx for that.

The MFP looks really interesting, and a further move away from the keyboard. Nice. I'll definitely consider it. Immersion...hmmm.

Re. AI commands: I use Shift_E's VAC and I really think it's one of the 'must haves' for the sim. The best $10 money can buy IMHO and reliable as hell. I just had to mention that as a loyal user of Voice Activated Commands. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Anyway, maybe the MFP for Xmas. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Glad to help another sim pilot <S> I'm planning on makign the most out of my MFP by using it for racing sims and FPS games, at the moment I'm hooked on rFactor and that has a lot of commands for things like brake bias and in car LCD display settings.

As for VAC, maybe I need to try a later version, I registered it a long time ago but ambient noise in the room and perhaps poor recognition of spoken words meant it was a little frustrating. I'm moving home soon and the PC will be in a seaparate room (and I've got the all important clearance to have a cockpit setup! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )so maybe i'll try it again and see how it goes.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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