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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 09:53 AM
Thank you UBI and Maddox.

The flight simulator on-line was dead before IL-2 arrived. It was fun during the Air-warrior days. Microsoft did a fine work with CFSI and CFSII but it was so easy to manipulate the air-files, so cheating was so common that most users abandomed the game.

FB with the coop-missions where many users can form a bomber crew makes the game really fun. In AirWarrior it was possibel to man a tank, a FLAK (AAA) this was very fun.

I have read the forums many hours and "whined" a lot myself and I am not alone.

I am afraid that that many users will abandom the IL-2 and FB if the performance of the planes arÔ┬┤nt more balanced.

Look at http://66.114.65.249/vov/missions.php?dayofmissions=2003-09-15

The explanation that only good pilots fly russian aircraft is not the answer.

How fun would it be to fly the FB if the oponent was armed with sidewinder AA-missiles?

There is a risk that users who "whines" about this stops playing, like they did in CFSI and CFSII

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 09:53 AM
Thank you UBI and Maddox.

The flight simulator on-line was dead before IL-2 arrived. It was fun during the Air-warrior days. Microsoft did a fine work with CFSI and CFSII but it was so easy to manipulate the air-files, so cheating was so common that most users abandomed the game.

FB with the coop-missions where many users can form a bomber crew makes the game really fun. In AirWarrior it was possibel to man a tank, a FLAK (AAA) this was very fun.

I have read the forums many hours and "whined" a lot myself and I am not alone.

I am afraid that that many users will abandom the IL-2 and FB if the performance of the planes arÔ┬┤nt more balanced.

Look at http://66.114.65.249/vov/missions.php?dayofmissions=2003-09-15

The explanation that only good pilots fly russian aircraft is not the answer.

How fun would it be to fly the FB if the oponent was armed with sidewinder AA-missiles?

There is a risk that users who "whines" about this stops playing, like they did in CFSI and CFSII

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 02:04 PM
Balanced? This is supposed to be a sim no offense not an arcade game. There wasn't a balance in WWII thus there is no balance in this game.

I personnally love the game, and probably won't stop playing it till absolutely everyone else stops. I think online I've been shot down by about everything. Although I must admit 80% of my kills are BF-109's. Of course I'm not counting when I fly a bomber and the AI gunners take down an enemy.

You can't please everyone thats for sure. Everybody has something to whine about. I doubt they're going to stop playing except for maybe some of the BF-109 whiners who refuse to fly anything else. I will admit a major change in performance from pre patch to 1.11

I'm still getting downed by them, and probably the only one's I'm getting are those who are putting themselves in the wrong situation.

It's about having wingmen who watch your 6, and teamwork. It's always less fun when everyone does their own thing. I keep covering their 6 though hoping that at some point they'll see me getting chased, and lend a hand.

I have no problems flying an underdog aircraft though. It's just harder as it should be. I mean if balance is truly what people want they would have only one type of aircraft selectable. That way everyone flies the same thing, and it's all pilot.
However some pilots like the way the BF-109 flies. I personally like the way the P-40 flies. Every pilot has their own style of flying and there's an aircraft to suite their style.

I've gone up in an I-16 against just about everything. I score very few kills that way, but I don't get shot down much. Usually I down myself in it when I skip of the ground, and bend my prop from flying too low. It's hard to BnZ or even pursue a plane who's so low they're kicking up a dust cloud.

Although all the whining makes me want to practice in the BF-109 just so I can kick some tail in one. I've been shot down plenty of times by them. I think that those who are doing the shooting down in 109's aren't the one's complaining about it on here. Not to say all complainers are bad pilots or have no kills. Just experience says people who were having a hard time before are really having a hard time now, and are mad about it.

The only whine I have is that the compass in the P-40 doesn't work. I took off in a full real server with no map icons whatsoever. The only thing I knew was the enemy base was east. No compass = land and get in a different aircraft.

It's always one thing after another...
Bomber gunners are too good
Ship AA is too good
I can't kill a tiger with a .50 cal machine gun. (real rocket scientist there) maybe if it was covered in explosives it might work.
P-39 is too uber
BF-109 is too uber
BF-109 is poor
FW-190 rolls too fast, and I can't hit newbs who spin constantly in them.
Undermodelled this
Overmodelled that
Can't shoot down a FW-190 with a fully loaded Shvak

TrackIR is cheating
Padlock is cheating
Padlock is realistic
TrackIR is realistic

This isn't fair
That isn't fair
This sim is making me lose my hair

Peanut butter and jelly made me crash
Dust is too thick
Guns flash too much
I can't hear anything over my 9 cyclinder unmuffled engine turning out 1,500hp

Oil on my windscreen is annoying
Why don't all planes get oil on there windscreen
I was vulched
I vulched
Vulching is cheap
Vulching is realistic
I can't believe it's not vulching
Tonight on the Letterman show "Vulchers who hate their Mama's"

lol there are so many and other than the jokes thats all I can remember off the top of my head from the two weeks I've been on this board.

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 02:08 PM
"Peanut butter and jelly made me crash"

clearly overmodelled!

but too much beer does http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 02:16 PM
Hopperfly22 wrote:
- Balanced? This is supposed to be a sim no offense
- not an arcade game. There wasn't a balance in WWII
- thus there is no balance in this game.

and: Some of the funniest stuff I've read here /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


And: lol there are so many and other than the jokes thats
- all I can remember off the top of my head from the
- two weeks I've been on this board.
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CEM really brings out the skill in a pilot. If I am flying a P-47, and I get shot down by a B-239, then that pilot knows something that I do not. Perhaps I was trying to turn with the Brewster, or maybe the Brewster pilot was able to catch me down low when I thought it was impossible, but the enemy was better at using prop-pitch than I was.

This game is about getting a plane "down-pat", and then using your skill against other Aircraft. Of course, if you want balance, make everyone fly the same plane.


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XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 05:58 PM
zugfuhrer wrote:

- In
- AirWarrior it was possibel to man a tank, a FLAK
- (AAA) this was very fun.
-

Even better when you spent a 1/2 hour driving
over to an enemy airfield, in the AAA tank,
or the T 34, and blasting enemy A/C as the took off !!

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Now those were the days, though I never heard
anyone complain when the enemy started getting in
their tanks, and chasing you all over their own
airfield. And killing you in your T 34 with the
AAA tanks......

But sitting on their runway killing runstangs
as they took off was priceless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Al

XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 10:51 PM
Are there no good Me-pilots playing VEF?

The score there speaks for itself. There is no other collection so far as I know, of statistics which can be compared "statisticly".

Look at the killratio for non AI-fighters I16 lag vs Me 109 E and F?
At a quick view it is 7 to 1 against the Me 109E/F.

I have a better killration against a AI P51 than against a AI I-16.
All pilots who likes flying german planes, play VEF at hyperlobby FB and convince me that I am wrong so I have to stop wining here :-)

XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 11:02 PM
there should be no balance; it was all about one side trying to wipe the other out of existence.

If kill ratios aren't OK in VEF that don't make VEF wrong, more than likely means that too many people flying 109s who don't know how to beat I16s. Nothing more. Very few of us are trained pilots after all and none of us is a WW2 vet.

But, hey, silly me, I forgot that Oleg is out to get us all.

Just my 0.02.

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XyZspineZyX
09-17-2003, 11:10 PM
Hopperfly22 wrote:
- Balanced? This is supposed to be a sim no offense
- not an arcade game. There wasn't a balance in WWII
- thus there is no balance in this game.
-
- I personnally love the game, and probably won't stop
- playing it till absolutely everyone else stops. I
- think online I've been shot down by about
- everything. Although I must admit 80% of my kills
- are BF-109's. Of course I'm not counting when I fly
- a bomber and the AI gunners take down an enemy.
-
- You can't please everyone thats for sure. Everybody
- has something to whine about. I doubt they're going
- to stop playing except for maybe some of the BF-109
- whiners who refuse to fly anything else. I will
- admit a major change in performance from pre patch
- to 1.11
-
- I'm still getting downed by them, and probably the
- only one's I'm getting are those who are putting
- themselves in the wrong situation.
-
- It's about having wingmen who watch your 6, and
- teamwork. It's always less fun when everyone does
- their own thing. I keep covering their 6 though
- hoping that at some point they'll see me getting
- chased, and lend a hand.
-
- I have no problems flying an underdog aircraft
- though. It's just harder as it should be. I mean
- if balance is truly what people want they would have
- only one type of aircraft selectable. That way
- everyone flies the same thing, and it's all pilot.
- However some pilots like the way the BF-109 flies.
- I personally like the way the P-40 flies. Every
- pilot has their own style of flying and there's an
- aircraft to suite their style.
-
- I've gone up in an I-16 against just about
- everything. I score very few kills that way, but I
- don't get shot down much. Usually I down myself in
- it when I skip of the ground, and bend my prop from
- flying too low. It's hard to BnZ or even pursue a
- plane who's so low they're kicking up a dust cloud.
-
- Although all the whining makes me want to practice
- in the BF-109 just so I can kick some tail in one.
- I've been shot down plenty of times by them. I
- think that those who are doing the shooting down in
- 109's aren't the one's complaining about it on here.
- Not to say all complainers are bad pilots or have
- no kills. Just experience says people who were
- having a hard time before are really having a hard
- time now, and are mad about it.
-
-
- The only whine I have is that the compass in the
- P-40 doesn't work. I took off in a full real server
- with no map icons whatsoever. The only thing I knew
- was the enemy base was east. No compass = land and
- get in a different aircraft.
-
- It's always one thing after another...
- Bomber gunners are too good
- Ship AA is too good
- I can't kill a tiger with a .50 cal machine gun.
- (real rocket scientist there) maybe if it was
- covered in explosives it might work.
- P-39 is too uber
- BF-109 is too uber
- BF-109 is poor
- FW-190 rolls too fast, and I can't hit newbs who
- spin constantly in them.
- Undermodelled this
- Overmodelled that
- Can't shoot down a FW-190 with a fully loaded Shvak
-
- TrackIR is cheating
- Padlock is cheating
- Padlock is realistic
- TrackIR is realistic
-
- This isn't fair
- That isn't fair
- This sim is making me lose my hair
-
- Peanut butter and jelly made me crash
- Dust is too thick
- Guns flash too much
- I can't hear anything over my 9 cyclinder unmuffled
- engine turning out 1,500hp
-
- Oil on my windscreen is annoying
- Why don't all planes get oil on there windscreen
- I was vulched
- I vulched
- Vulching is cheap
- Vulching is realistic
- I can't believe it's not vulching
- Tonight on the Letterman show "Vulchers who hate
- their Mama's"
-
- lol there are so many and other than the jokes thats
- all I can remember off the top of my head from the
- two weeks I've been on this board.


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