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K_Freddie
09-26-2009, 05:08 PM
Just a question of how long one is banned from the UK dedicated servers - The Story...

I was up high parallel to te battlefield looking for a victim, when I saw 2 a/c coming from the enemies side and one going towards the enemy base. My assumption was that the single a/c was one of 'ours', but with hindsight it was the opposite way around.

I swooped down in support my 'hapless friend' who was smoking, and when close up - a split second decision, my target did not have any SERVER REQUIRED insignia on his wings (I assumed he was Russian), so I let him have it. An excellent BnZ, but it turns out to be a friendly... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
Have.. track V4.08 (340KB) (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/ErichsDemise.zip)...

I apologise to Erich (who incidently survived the crash http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ), and ask the UK Dedicated admins to reinstate my IP addy..

If anybody knows the UK-Dedicated admins, maybe they can forward this request...

Thanks
K_F
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steiner562
09-26-2009, 05:16 PM
They have forums where you can enquire.

http://www.battle-fields.com/c...orumdisplay.php?f=36 (http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/forumdisplay.php?f=36)

K_Freddie
09-26-2009, 05:29 PM
Thanks Steiner.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

trashcanUK
09-27-2009, 03:29 PM
Thanks for directing K_Freddie to the BFs forum Steiner and thanks for stopping by K_Freddie.

Just to explain, UKDedicated servers automatically ban players for one hour in some cases such as TK'ing so that if no admin is on anyone acting silly is removed.
Sadly this sometimes means accidents such as happened here or overly ambitious formation flying means a 1 hour auto ban.

Hope to see you flying on uk2 (or even better uk3) soon K_Freddie, likewise all.

~S!

general_kalle
09-27-2009, 05:13 PM
remember that frindlys have labels(names)
enemies dont

Frankthetank36
09-27-2009, 05:30 PM
Heh, I was booted from a server (don't remember which) that specifically said that you could attack enemy planes on the ground (and not just with bombs), I took out like 3 grounded planes and it said "cheating detected" and kicked me off

AndyJWest
09-27-2009, 05:57 PM
If you get a message that says 'cheating detected' and then get kicked, it is probably nothing to do with what you are doing, but just a problem with your connection. Servers are set to give this warning if the 'ping'gets too big (communication gets too slow), and if it happens too often they kick you automatically. It isn't a sensible error message, though people have been known to intentionally cause delays, which is cheating of course.

If you get this happening a lot, you may want to try a different server. Tracking the cause down can sometimes be tricky as there are so many things that can cause delays - make sure you don't have things running in the background that you don't need.

AndyJWest
09-27-2009, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by general_kalle:
remember that frindlys have labels(names)
enemies dont

Very true - for UKDed2 anyway. unfortunately if you accidentally turn the labels off, everything looks like an enemy - hence me managing to shoot down a Pe-8 that I mistook for a Ju88 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Well it is the best explanation I had, but it doesn't excuse incompetent aircraft recognition. Haven't shown my face on UKDed2 since, though they didn't ban me.

trashcanUK
09-27-2009, 06:23 PM
If you like flying, escorting or attacking bombers UKDed2&3 have it all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvL0B0aSQiE

WTE_Galway
09-27-2009, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by general_kalle:
remember that frindlys have labels(names)
enemies dont

Very true - for UKDed2 anyway. unfortunately if you accidentally turn the labels off, everything looks like an enemy - hence me managing to shoot down a Pe-8 that I mistook for a Ju88 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Well it is the best explanation I had, but it doesn't excuse incompetent aircraft recognition. Haven't shown my face on UKDed2 since, though they didn't ban me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Special 4 engine ju88 huh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AndyJWest
09-27-2009, 06:35 PM
Special 4 engine ju88 huh
Yup, thats the one - I had plenty of time to line up for a high five-o'clock sweeping shot (La-5). Took the wing clean off with a half-second burst. Apparently I only shoot straight when I'm doing something else wrong - perhaps I should play SH3 instead, though I'll probably torpedo myself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

megalopsuche
09-28-2009, 12:01 PM
Yet another reason why I prefer servers with enemy icons.

K_Freddie
09-28-2009, 02:34 PM
I'm used to playing on servers that have 'historical' planesets. Blue have axis planes, Red have allied ones, and find it easier to identify a/c further away, than where icons are on with mixed planesets.

I find ID'ing the a/c further away allows you to setup your attack earlier, than having to wait for an icon to appear.... also helps when you have to get in quick to help a friendly.
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The_Stealth_Owl
09-28-2009, 02:37 PM
I like icons...becuase I like to know who I'm flying with. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

doraemil
09-29-2009, 01:41 AM
well at least its explained.

Unlike the no BnZ ones, some interesting kick / ban threads LOL.


yeah me too, i like icons on.

Sure you have the realist guys that want no icons, but in IL-2 1946 its hard if you got a average PC and you get dots up to around 1 km and then the shape of a plane around .3 km.

and you see insignia at .1 km.

No fun cuz the graphics engine doesn't show when you have average settings like I do. And it isn't good enought to model real visual distances etc. . .


And I don't have a dual SLI 2 gig cards, uber graphics on 3840 x 2160 dual 30" monitors, where you can see a the color of a spinner at 2 km out and details in trucks from 7 k high.

JtD
09-29-2009, 02:46 AM
Yup, thats the one - I had plenty of time to line up for a high five-o'clock sweeping shot (La-5). Took the wing clean off with a half-second burst.

Hey, that's a great shot! Pe-8 can be pretty tough to bring down, in particular with just two lousy 20mm cannons.

Maybe you get back on and give the guy some escort just to compensate?

TinyTim
09-29-2009, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Special 4 engine ju88 huh
Yup, thats the one - I had plenty of time to line up for a high five-o'clock sweeping shot (La-5). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude, you couldn't tell apart a Ju-88 from a Pe-8 from 5 oclock high? That's even worse than me a few years ago when I mistook a Pe-2 for a Bf-110 from dead 6 - and shot his wing clean off with a nose NS-37 from some 500 meters away. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

(Needless to say, I can never hit anything airborne with that cannon. Ah, well.)

Erkki_M
09-29-2009, 05:24 AM
Dependance on external views and icons/labels... LW used to have a word for this, called "battle blindness" - inability to see other aircraft, follow and identify them.

Takes some two weeks to get used of FR flying IMHO, and big screens, TrackIRs or good graphics are certainly not required! And once you learn it, nothing will bring to back to the arcade servers. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

AndyJWest
09-29-2009, 06:28 AM
TinyTim: in my defence, I was about 800m off, and with low graphics settings, Mostly though it comes down to me seeing what I wanted to see - I 'knew' it was enemy, so it 'had' to be a Ju 88. This sort of thing is all too common in real life, the classic example being the Battle of Barking Creek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Barking_Creek).

I think I'm getting better - slowly - but I still manage to do stupid things sometimes. I'm beginning to get a bit more patient, and tying to assess the situation before piling in, which should reduce the chances of such pea-brained efforts.