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DKoor
06-23-2009, 05:56 PM
I thought it would be cool that you guys wrote some of the unusual stuff that you did in the game on purpose or by accident that are cool, unusual and not necessarily, tough. Screenshots or tracks are welcomed too.

Say...
- Successfully landing a multi engined bomber on carrier...
- Fighting few ace Ai fighters and live to tell the story...
- Being alive after 20 campaign missions...
- Shooting down 4 Ace B-29's with MiG-9 and landing under 10 minutes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (we actually did that some time ago).
- Having insane kill ratio online (say more than 20kills on one death or something).
- Flying inverted under the bridge in bomber (or easier variants of the same thing)
- Flying thru the stable(s) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (I've seen a guy who flew thru a lot of stables grouped together, looked like he flew thru tunnel)
- Landing undamaged without elevator or aileron or rudder (and combinations) on normal runway + doing that on a carrier!
- Surviving a very tough mission (online, offline)
- Breaking a record in kills with certain aircraft type (for instance, I managed to shot down 25 B-17's with Me-262)

Basically whatever you may think of and it sounds cool and unusual (in some instances tough too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif ).

ElAurens
06-23-2009, 06:00 PM
I'd say surviving this forum for over eight years has gotta qualify for something!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

SILVERFISH1992
06-23-2009, 06:05 PM
Shot down 7 veterens in QMB[with no help]
Shot down 16 averages in QMB[I do this a lot]
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Romanator21
06-23-2009, 06:18 PM
Probably the coolest thing I've done is setting down a couple of planes (one was a p-40 the other maybe a p-38) without the elevator, and landing it in one piece. Nothing to prove it though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

A long time ago I made this video in which I was able to control a badly damaged Bf-109Z:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh-YWtOM9pQ

BillSwagger
06-23-2009, 06:20 PM
I'm actually more successful at landing planes with out ailerons.
I recently flew under a bridge with an enemy on my six from a loop about 2km up. He ended up balking and flying away after that. Funny too, cause now i cant repeat it, even with out an enemy on my six. I have to get firm and level on deck before hand. Its actually kinda hard, but doing it from a loop in combat made it seem easy when i did it my first try.

Today i landed a burning plane in a field, even though i was dead.

Ba5tard5word
06-23-2009, 06:27 PM
Festivus already?

TinyTim
06-23-2009, 06:31 PM
Once (online) I landed a swiss cheesed IL-2 without ailerons and elevator. Aproach was long enough to estimate the correct sink rate using flaps and throttle, rudder was enough to keep her straight. I was pulling my hair out for not recording it.

SILVERFISH1992
06-23-2009, 06:40 PM
definition of "festivus", please

DKoor
06-23-2009, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
I'd say surviving this forum for over eight years has gotta qualify for something!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


Originally posted by TinyTim:
Once (online) I landed a swiss cheesed IL-2 without ailerons and elevator. Aproach was long enough to estimate the correct sink rate using flaps and throttle, rudder was enough to keep her straight. I was pulling my hair out for not recording it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

I have to find a track where I landed my I-153, but haven't noticed that I have 'company' in a form of Ai Bf-109E. Noticed him when airfield opened fire http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .
However since he was preparing for a strafing run (which I wouldn't survive BTW) I taxied behind my control tower (larger one).
So there he goes shooting with everything he's got at control tower trying to get me of course in vain, and as he pulls up, 20mm AAA trims his wing.
Ha. Sometimes you just have to be lucky.

WTE_Galway
06-23-2009, 07:10 PM
There have been a few threads on tricky landings and inverted flight under bridges stuff. Flying under the wings of parked Messerschmidt gliders was also popular at one stage. There was also you tube footage here of someone flying through a carrier.

On the subject of wacky stuff ... I have recommended this campaign before but can't hurt to throw it up again for anyone that has not come across it ...


"For Good Pilots" on Mission 4 Today:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3102 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3102)

Lots of wacky fun missions.


http://combat-asylum.com/uploads/downloads/images/2007/10/369_7_grab0002_resize.jpg

Ba5tard5word
06-23-2009, 08:45 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus

Bearcat99
06-23-2009, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
I'd say surviving this forum for over eight years has gotta qualify for something!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Waldo.Pepper
06-23-2009, 10:14 PM
In formation, tandem carrier landing, with a (real person) tucked in really tight on my wing. To be clear we landed at the same time, on each others wing, though I was ever so slightly in the fore, and hooked the wire at the same time.

RPMcMurphy
06-23-2009, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
In formation, tandem carrier landing, with a (real person) tucked in really tight on my wing. To be clear we landed at the same time, on each others wing, though I was ever so slightly in the fore, and hooked the wire at the same time.

Thats cool. I'd like to see that.

Recently I was in a Swiss-cheesed Corsair and out of ammo. I drew a couple of Zekes in on my tail and twisted through some smoke stacks and lost them as they ate a Smoke stack. I made it back to base.

WTE_Galway
06-23-2009, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:

Recently I was in a Swiss-cheesed Corsair and out of ammo. I drew a couple of Zekes in on my tail and twisted through some smoke stacks and lost them as they ate a Smoke stack. I made it back to base.

Mission three of the campaign I linked above is just that ... twisting through a forest of smoke stacks with no ammo until the AI all crash and burn trying to follow you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JtD
06-24-2009, 01:39 AM
Had some of my best stunts with 1.2 Il-2. Best things I did there were

Flying an I-16 backwards below a bridge, one with continued flight another with a backwards landing.

Killing 30 Heinkels in a minute with the Yak-9K in a head on pass against a line astern formation of Heinkels.

More recently but not really recently I landed a B-29 with no controls whatsoever left, just using differential throttle. Was pretty hard to do with externals only.

I also outturned a Spitfire the other day.

JtD
06-24-2009, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:

On the subject of wacky stuff ... I have recommended this campaign before but can't hurt to throw it up again for anyone that has not come across it ...


"For Good Pilots" on Mission 4 Today:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3102 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3102)

Lots of wacky fun missions.

Great campaign. I'd like to see someone who's managed to survive the first 20 mission of that one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mortoma
06-24-2009, 02:14 AM
- Successfully landing a multi engined bomber on carrier... <span class="ev_code_RED">Never tried</span>
- Fighting few ace Ai fighters and live to tell the story...<span class="ev_code_RED">Many times</span>
- Being alive after 20 campaign missions... <span class="ev_code_RED">Many times</span>
- Shooting down 4 Ace B-29's with MiG-9 and landing under 10 minutes Big Grin (we actually did that some time ago). <span class="ev_code_RED">What's a Mig-9??</span>
- Having insane kill ratio online (say more than 20kills on one death or something).<span class="ev_code_RED">Never kept track</span>
- Flying inverted under the bridge in bomber (or easier variants of the same thing) <span class="ev_code_RED">Never tried but sounds interesting.</span>
- Flying thru the stable(s) Big Grin (I've seen a guy who flew thru a lot of stables grouped together, looked like he flew thru tunnel). <span class="ev_code_RED">Can there be a horse in the stable?? Stable?!?!</span>
- Landing undamaged without elevator or aileron or rudder (and combinations) on normal runway + doing that on a carrier! <span class="ev_code_RED">Have landed without each one separately many times. But not on carrier, never had to.</span>
- Surviving a very tough mission (online, offline) <span class="ev_code_RED">Many times</span>
- Breaking a record in kills with certain aircraft type (for instance, I managed to shot down 25 B-17's with Me-262) <span class="ev_code_RED">Hmmm. that's pretty good.</span>

Viper2005_
06-24-2009, 02:30 AM
A few patches ago, losing a control didn't kill your trimmer.

In those days I could regularly land my 190 using only rudder, power and elevator trim. However, with heavy asymmetric wing damage my success rate was lower because of the lack of available control power.

Manu-6S
06-24-2009, 03:11 AM
- During a national tournament I landed an Hellcat on the carrier after losing elevators 'cause of enemy flak (I didn't use trim, it's not realistic like using trim on slider)

- Killed an A20 with one single hit from a 109F2 (15mm)

- Scored a pair of kill and RTB safe in a Spit9 after a fight alone against 3 109 and a 190 when I was in energy disadvantage (ambushed near my base, no flak)... you don't want to know my comments that day...

TinyTim
06-24-2009, 04:12 AM
Another one that came to mind - posted it here a year or two ago already, but anyay:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_3.jpg

DKoor
06-24-2009, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Manu-6S:
- During a national tournament I landed an Hellcat on the carrier after losing elevators 'cause of enemy flak (I didn't use trim, it's not realistic like using trim on slider) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


- Killed an A20 with one single hit from a 109F2 (15mm) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
I have to find a track where I flew a P-40 in desert and AA hit me with 1 round I suffered no visible damage, however, he got all 3 of my controls (I think he also PK'ed me, not sure about that tho).
Insane bad luck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .


- Scored a pair of kill and RTB safe in a Spit9 after a fight alone against 3 109 and a 190 when I was in energy disadvantage (ambushed near my base, no flak)... you don't want to know my comments that day... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

DKoor
06-24-2009, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by TinyTim:
Another one that came to mind - posted it here a year or two ago already, but anyay:

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ddict/Two_tigers.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ict/Two_tigers_1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_1.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ict/Two_tigers_2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_2.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ict/Two_tigers_3.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_3.jpg)
You've got to be kidding me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif .

TS_Sancho
06-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TinyTim:
Another one that came to mind - posted it here a year or two ago already, but anyay:

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ddict/Two_tigers.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ict/Two_tigers_1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_1.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ict/Two_tigers_2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_2.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ict/Two_tigers_3.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_3.jpg)
You've got to be kidding me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Tigers none the less, that is impressive.

DKoor
06-24-2009, 12:08 PM
http://www.esnips.com/doc/9b72...39-stallrecovery-408 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/9b725a6d-be4d-41a1-aced-d9cf328d28f5/DKoor39-stallrecovery-408)
http://www.esnips.com/doc/5888.../DKoor153-hiding-408 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/5888d78a-727d-4637-8c0d-64bc324020e0/DKoor153-hiding-408)
http://www.esnips.com/doc/a577...ddad/AiG50-Crazy-408 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/a577dd10-83e6-474f-839c-a3704c08ddad/AiG50-Crazy-408)
http://www.esnips.com/doc/7de8...07ea/AiLA7-move-F100 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/7de84ac9-5ec7-4bc4-98c8-1b20bcaf07ea/AiLA7-move-F100)
http://www.esnips.com/doc/e17d...8/DKoor88-skip1k-408 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/e17d42b2-6c4d-446a-bbfc-4847b667db68/DKoor88-skip1k-408)

DKoor39-stallrecovery-408.ntrk --- Needed P-39N flat spin recovery time: 866m which is good. See if you can do better! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
DKoor153-hiding-408.ntrk --- See 0:34 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .
AiLA7-move-F100.ntrk --- See 3:29 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .
AiG50-Crazy-408.ntrk --- You think you've seen crazy Ai behaviour, well this track will change your mind http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .
DKoor88-skip1k.ntrk --- How to skip bomb with Junkers 88 equipped with AB bomb type http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/p39_spin_recovery.jpg

Viper2005_
06-24-2009, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Manu-6S:
- During a national tournament I landed an Hellcat on the carrier after losing elevators 'cause of enemy flak (I didn't use trim, it's not realistic like using trim on slider)


That depends upon where the control system failure and how the trim system works.

For example, many aircraft use a trim tab to move the elevator datum. The tab has its own control cable.

If the elevator control has failed because the elevator cable has been cut then the trimmer will still work as normal.

If the elevator itself has jammed then the trim tab will work, but in the reverse sense, and with greatly reduced effectiveness, because instead of moving the elevator it is now trying to move the aeroplane.

OTOH, if the trim system works with bungee chords or springs which simply change the stick's self centring position then the trim system will obviously not work unless the elevator works.

So, if I'm flying a Cessna 150 and the elevator quits, I'll try to get home on the trim. If I'm flying a Jantar Junior then I'll apply brute force to the controls, and if that fails I'll try skydiving for the first time...

Mr_Enjo
06-24-2009, 12:33 PM
I used to have a screen shot of some of my more impressive gunnery... I shot the cockpit and both engines completely off a c-47!
Gotta love those heavy German guns http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DKoor
06-24-2009, 12:33 PM
http://www.esnips.com/doc/ed27...Me262-vs-25xB17G-405 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/ed27e945-b26b-446a-841f-8ad3dc0c28ab/KunaMe262-vs-25xB17G-405)

25 B-17 Flying Fortresses shot down with Me-262 on 'realistic' settings, no time accelerate/decelerate.
B-17 on ACE settings.

Not tough once you get that Messerschmitt on speed with all that insane Mk108's, however not exactly piece of cake either as those sniper gunners are waiting for your wrong move http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .

A lot of B-17's... (note the trigger-happy gunners already sing their tune http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif )
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/me262-attack_approach_1.jpg
...making a pass...
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/me262_attack_approach-2.jpg
...waiting a last moment to shoot...
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/me262_attack_approach-3.jpg
...apparently a good deflection...
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/me262_attack_approach-4.jpg

Debrief...
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/kuname262-vs-25xb17g-405_ss.jpg

Ha... 10,000pts sortie. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I tried once similar in P-47 vs He-111's, but haven't did some notable result... I think I'll play with it these days... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DKoor
06-24-2009, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Viper2005_:
That depends upon where the control system failure and how the trim system works.

For example, many aircraft use a trim tab to move the elevator datum. The tab has its own control cable.

If the elevator control has failed because the elevator cable has been cut then the trimmer will still work as normal. Wow. Didn't know that... you know any plane that has it in game? I'd like to try it someday (when my elevator gets damaged).

It's another gem of the game... like when I got hit while flying Il-2 and my gear control got damaged I actually manually lowered my gears http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif . Couldn't believe it. It wont work if your gears aren't damaged http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif .

Jaws2002
06-24-2009, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
I'd say surviving this forum for over eight years has gotta qualify for something!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

DKoor
06-24-2009, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Jaws2002:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
I'd say surviving this forum for over eight years has gotta qualify for something!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>+1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

ROXunreal
06-24-2009, 02:24 PM
Hey man I managed to fly bombers inverted under bridges for a few times, and that was before I even had a joystick, did it with keyboard, without time compression or anything. Had a screenshot of doing that with a He 111 but I can't find it now

I also liked to try landing bombers on one very small sandy islet on the Okinawa map, succeeded a few times

RPMcMurphy
06-24-2009, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by TinyTim:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/aegeeaddict/Two_tigers_3.jpg
Now That is cool. I am going to try that.
I geuss you just put the missile convergence way-out there and go at it.

Manu-6S
06-24-2009, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Viper2005_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Manu-6S:
- During a national tournament I landed an Hellcat on the carrier after losing elevators 'cause of enemy flak (I didn't use trim, it's not realistic like using trim on slider)


That depends upon where the control system failure and how the trim system works.

For example, many aircraft use a trim tab to move the elevator datum. The tab has its own control cable.

If the elevator control has failed because the elevator cable has been cut then the trimmer will still work as normal.

If the elevator itself has jammed then the trim tab will work, but in the reverse sense, and with greatly reduced effectiveness, because instead of moving the elevator it is now trying to move the aeroplane.

OTOH, if the trim system works with bungee chords or springs which simply change the stick's self centring position then the trim system will obviously not work unless the elevator works.

So, if I'm flying a Cessna 150 and the elevator quits, I'll try to get home on the trim. If I'm flying a Jantar Junior then I'll apply brute force to the controls, and if that fails I'll try skydiving for the first time... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Anyway I used only the throttle to raise my nose: I still don't know how I did it, also because there was a penalty on the tournament system id I had died.. but I was confident I could land.

Manu-6S
06-24-2009, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">- Killed an A20 with one single hit from a 109F2 (15mm) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
I have to find a track where I flew a P-40 in desert and AA hit me with 1 round I suffered no visible damage, however, he got all 3 of my controls (I think he also PK'ed me, not sure about that tho).
Insane bad luck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It happened why me many times flying 190s... could not know about P40 and flak since I'm not below 4000m with that plane.

But listen this, my teammate had a worse luck: during an Air War (the one of the ROSS guys) we were flying in large formation with E4s at 4000/5000 (can't remember, but we were high)... suddenly we saw a plane exploding in thousand pieces... after 5 seconds we saw the first smoke of the flak below us... simply he was hitted and killed by the first flak... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Anyway I got my kill in Spitvs109. Bnzed the A20 from 4 o'clock high: I saw my first shot hitting the wingtip and cutting it. The plane spinned and went down. Really lucky.

Kingsman39
06-24-2009, 02:43 PM
I'm on the road, so I was unable to put this to video. I was a bit bored and attempted an unusual landing. At some point during my take off, my fuel tank caught fire (this explains the spectacular explosion at the end.) Enjoy: 4.09 needed

http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647...fef7bbcd28/quick0248 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647596a-5898-4797-910a-a5fef7bbcd28/quick0248)

TinyTim
06-24-2009, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:
25 B-17 Flying Fortresses shot down with Me-262 on 'realistic' settings, no time accelerate/decelerate.
B-17 on ACE settings.

Whoah impressive! 25 heavies! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

I remember in the days when I flew Me262 more frequently, I didn't even use the gunsight view. You can learn to shoot very accurately from normal view - aiming point being very near the geometrical centre of the windscreen. Great benefit of it is that you can shoot with a lot of deflection since you can see a much larger angle below the aiming point. I'd only switch back to gunsight view for long range, dead 6 sniping at the smallest possible silhouette of a plane - which shouldn't occur often in a Me262 anyway. When shooting with big deflection, plane usually presents much bigger target, especially when diving vertically and firing at it from above (or from below), so accuracy isn't as important as when shooting from dead 6.

SILVERFISH1992
06-24-2009, 02:55 PM
What is "deflection"?

TinyTim
06-24-2009, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by SILVERFISH1992:
What is "deflection"?

Basically, it's shooting into empty space where the plane will be when the bullets get there, not where it is now.

Obviously you always need to employ deflection shooting unless you are shooting from dead 6 or 12, or from point blank range at a slow and big target.

http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/8217/fgun/g_defl.gif

mortoma
06-24-2009, 05:12 PM
Back a long time ago I would do QMB with 10 B-17s and me in a Bf-109F2. I'd see how many B-17s I could down with the tiny cannon on the F2 model before I'd get ripped to pieces by the gunners.

Only once out of maybe 100 times did I get all 10 and then land at home afterwards. It's a feat probably like getting 35 bombers with the 262s massive firepower.

Remember the F2 only has the 15mm cannon and therefore under-gunned. Works OK against I-16s but not against the Fortress. Please note that this match up would not be historical because the F2 was retired by the time the B-17s were over Germany.

orville07
06-24-2009, 08:07 PM
After an inverted crash landing on top of a horse stable in Eastern Europe online, I managed to drag myself out of the blazing wreckage, and rescue 15 Romanian children from a nearby burning orphanage, tending to their wounds and even finding the time to make them all a cup of tea. As well as all the horses. And all the little baby horses too.

SILVERFISH1992
06-24-2009, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by orville07:
After an inverted crash landing on top of a horse stable in Eastern Europe online, I managed to drag myself out of the blazing wreckage, and rescue 15 Romanian children from a nearby burning orphanage, tending to their wounds and even finding the time to make them all a cup of tea. As well as all the horses. And all the little baby horses too.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

WTE_Galway
06-24-2009, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by JtD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:

On the subject of wacky stuff ... I have recommended this campaign before but can't hurt to throw it up again for anyone that has not come across it ...


"For Good Pilots" on Mission 4 Today:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3102 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3102)

Lots of wacky fun missions.

Great campaign. I'd like to see someone who's managed to survive the first 20 mission of that one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I must admit to cheating and loading it into FMB to bypass some of the ones I have difficulty with allowing me to pick and choose rather than working through it linearly.

Some of the missions in there I can complete only through sheer dumb luck.

DKoor
06-25-2009, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by orville07:
After an inverted crash landing on top of a horse stable in Eastern Europe online, I managed to drag myself out of the blazing wreckage, and rescue 15 Romanian children from a nearby burning orphanage, tending to their wounds and even finding the time to make them all a cup of tea. As well as all the horses. And all the little baby horses too. You maniac http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .

DKoor
06-25-2009, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by mortoma:
Back a long time ago I would do QMB with 10 B-17s and me in a Bf-109F2. I'd see how many B-17s I could down with the tiny cannon on the F2 model before I'd get ripped to pieces by the gunners.

Only once out of maybe 100 times did I get all 10 and then land at home afterwards. It's a feat probably like getting 35 bombers with the 262s massive firepower.

Remember the F2 only has the 15mm cannon and therefore under-gunned. Works OK against I-16s but not against the Fortress. Please note that this match up would not be historical because the F2 was retired by the time the B-17s were over Germany. That is seriously tough job. Seriously.

Just yesterday I was playing with P-38 and P-47 vs 16 Ju-88's (ace) in QMB on 'realistic' settings.

I don't know about you guys but I wasn't able to shot down one element (4 A/C) let alone more...

I think I would do a better job in a Hurricane with .303's than with all those .50s http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif .
They simply pass thru bomber and do not inflict considerable damage, at best thin smoke and if I'm really lucky a PK (happened once in 10 missions on one aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif ) .
Problem is if I take a time to do a good burst on Junkers gunners make me full of holes, and snap bursts doesn't really work vs Ju-88's (I see that I hit them, I have arcade=1 but they simply fly away).

Any tip how to do it?

I even tried to change my conv settings, but no luck (I used 175, 200, 225, 275, 300, 350...).

BillSwagger
06-25-2009, 01:37 AM
Dkoor,

For any plane with .50 cals i use 250-275 convergence, and aim for the engine or cockpit.

On Ju-88s i make a sweeping pass from the side, and avoid direct six. With the right speed you can do side to side sweeps.

Manu-6S
06-25-2009, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
Dkoor,

For any plane with .50 cals i use 250-275 convergence, and aim for the engine or cockpit.

On Ju-88s i make a sweeping pass from the side, and avoid direct six. With the right speed you can do side to side sweeps.

Mhmm.

In my opinion 250m is too much for 0.50cal, at least if your objectives are planes: for example I usually use 150m also in P47.

Of course if you have to strafe enemy at ground you need a longer convergence. For example IIRC the 190s used 400m for normal AA and more the 1km to attack bomber.

Anyway aiming for the pilots of a ju88 is like shooting to a sitting duke: IL2's Ju88 has not armor protection for the crew, so you can pilotkill even from 6 o'clock. My teammate modded it for using in our internal campaign and in SEOW.

BillSwagger
06-25-2009, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Manu-6S:

In my opinion 250m is too much for 0.50cal, at least if your objectives are planes: for example I usually use 150m also in P47.


Yeah, but what ive found is that if you make your convergence too tight, then your longer shots go wide even if the target is only 400m in front of you. At 150M, your shot is already as wide as your guns at 300M.
You can always offset them for a good spread, like 350M for one (cannons), and 150M for the other (machine guns).

Viper2005_
06-25-2009, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Viper2005_:
That depends upon where the control system failure and how the trim system works.

For example, many aircraft use a trim tab to move the elevator datum. The tab has its own control cable.

If the elevator control has failed because the elevator cable has been cut then the trimmer will still work as normal. Wow. Didn't know that... you know any plane that has it in game? I'd like to try it someday (when my elevator gets damaged).

It's another gem of the game... like when I got hit while flying Il-2 and my gear control got damaged I actually manually lowered my gears http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif . Couldn't believe it. It wont work if your gears aren't damaged http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is only a R/L thing.

In the game the trim used to just continue to work after the main control cables were damaged.

Then, a few patches ago, the logic was changed so that when the cables were cut the trim was lost too.

Personally I think that the old system was more realistic for the majority of WWII fighters. However, I suspect that the trim on a slider crowd were taking unrealistic advantage of of what would in reality have been an extremely limited form of control.

Viper2005_
06-25-2009, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Manu-6S:

In my opinion 250m is too much for 0.50cal, at least if your objectives are planes: for example I usually use 150m also in P47.


Yeah, but what ive found is that if you make your convergence too tight, then your longer shots go wide even if the target is only 400m in front of you. At 150M, your shot is already as wide as your guns at 300M.
You can always offset them for a good spread, like 350M for one (cannons), and 150M for the other (machine guns). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly

What matters is

R(target)/R(convergence)

Let's call this convergence parameter C.

In the limit where C = 0, you've just crashed into your target. Disregarding this technical detail, the spread of your rounds will be identical to the spread of your guns.

If C = 1 then in IL2 your rounds will form an arbitrarily small grouping.

If C = 2 then your rounds have gone through the convergence point and come back out to the same lateral spread as your gun installation.

If C>2 then your rounds are actually more spread out than your guns.

As a simple rule of thumb, aircraft with wing guns aren't going to hit anything other than their target's wingtips if C > 2.

Therefore your convergence should be set to no less than half the maximum range at which you wish to attack the enemy.

The best results will obviously be achieved when C is close to 1, say 0.75<C<1.25

The absolute size of this firing window is directly proportional to R(convergence).

IMO this is a strong argument for setting a relatively long convergence range, especially when you consider that the value of C cannot be less than 0, and 0<C<1 will always give you a tighter convergence than your gun installation, whilst the kinetic hitting power of your guns is always greater at close range anyway.

For this reason, I tend to set my convergence such that at my ideal engagement range, C ~ 0.75.

So for a 150 m ideal range, I'd set the convergence to 200 m; for a 225 m ideal engagement range I'd set the the convergence to 300 m etc.

It's also worth observing that the more tightly your gun installation is grouped, the stronger the argument for a long convergence, since the if you have fuselage guns, your grouping will only fall outside the size of a target fuselage when C>2.

For this reason, I set shorter convergence on my 190's wing cannon than on its main guns.

mortoma
06-25-2009, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mortoma:
Back a long time ago I would do QMB with 10 B-17s and me in a Bf-109F2. I'd see how many B-17s I could down with the tiny cannon on the F2 model before I'd get ripped to pieces by the gunners.

Only once out of maybe 100 times did I get all 10 and then land at home afterwards. It's a feat probably like getting 35 bombers with the 262s massive firepower.

Remember the F2 only has the 15mm cannon and therefore under-gunned. Works OK against I-16s but not against the Fortress. Please note that this match up would not be historical because the F2 was retired by the time the B-17s were over Germany. That is seriously tough job. Seriously.

Just yesterday I was playing with P-38 and P-47 vs 16 Ju-88's (ace) in QMB on 'realistic' settings.

I don't know about you guys but I wasn't able to shot down one element (4 A/C) let alone more...

I think I would do a better job in a Hurricane with .303's than with all those .50s http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif .
They simply pass thru bomber and do not inflict considerable damage, at best thin smoke and if I'm really lucky a PK (happened once in 10 missions on one aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif ) .
Problem is if I take a time to do a good burst on Junkers gunners make me full of holes, and snap bursts doesn't really work vs Ju-88's (I see that I hit them, I have arcade=1 but they simply fly away).

Any tip how to do it?

I even tried to change my conv settings, but no luck (I used 175, 200, 225, 275, 300, 350...). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually I now remember that the best I ever did was to get seven of the Fortresses!! And that was tough. I never got all 10. And even then some of them crashed much later of fuel exhaustion or engine damage. Of course you get credit for those late crashes in the game when in real life you'd not have any way to verify them. Will have to try it again just for fun. I always had to shoot at the engines. The only way in that scenario with the F2 and its peashooter.

Viper2005_
06-25-2009, 07:30 AM
It only takes one round to score a PK if that round goes into the right spot.

I remember a few years ago I killed a B-25 on WarClouds with a throw-away burst of 7.92 mm MG fire. I couldn't repeat it of course. But it was quite amazing to just blip the trigger and see the B-25 gently nose over and dive in...

With the Ju-88, which I used to fly quite a lot, the .50s are actually really scary because they are extremely effective at scoring PKs.

The aircraft structure is really tough, but the expert .50 marksmen just aim for the cockpit glazing from relatively long range.

Since this will tend to kill the gunners as well as the pilots, this strategy is especially effective.

I would suggest that the best way to kill B-17s with a 109 would therefore be to attack head on from slightly below and try to kill the crew through the bomb-aimer's glazing.

Of course, it would take an awfully long time to set up repeated passes...

BillSwagger
06-25-2009, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Viper2005_:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BillSwagger:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Manu-6S:


In regards to the P-47, by offsetting convergence zones you create the possibility of four convergence zones.

I tend to keep mine offset by only a few meters so that i have an effective kill zone of about 100M.

see chart

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos....ages/P-47/47GECD.gif (http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Images/P-47/47GECD.gif)

Manu-6S
06-25-2009, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Viper2005_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillSwagger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Manu-6S:

In my opinion 250m is too much for 0.50cal, at least if your objectives are planes: for example I usually use 150m also in P47.


Yeah, but what ive found is that if you make your convergence too tight, then your longer shots go wide even if the target is only 400m in front of you. At 150M, your shot is already as wide as your guns at 300M.
You can always offset them for a good spread, like 350M for one (cannons), and 150M for the other (machine guns). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly

What matters is

R(target)/R(convergence)

Let's call this convergence parameter C.

In the limit where C = 0, you've just crashed into your target. Disregarding this technical detail, the spread of your rounds will be identical to the spread of your guns.

If C = 1 then in IL2 your rounds will form an arbitrarily small grouping.

If C = 2 then your rounds have gone through the convergence point and come back out to the same lateral spread as your gun installation.

If C>2 then your rounds are actually more spread out than your guns.

As a simple rule of thumb, aircraft with wing guns aren't going to hit anything other than their target's wingtips if C > 2.

Therefore your convergence should be set to no less than half the maximum range at which you wish to attack the enemy.

The best results will obviously be achieved when C is close to 1, say 0.75<C<1.25

The absolute size of this firing window is directly proportional to R(convergence).

IMO this is a strong argument for setting a relatively long convergence range, especially when you consider that the value of C cannot be less than 0, and 0<C<1 will always give you a tighter convergence than your gun installation, whilst the kinetic hitting power of your guns is always greater at close range anyway.

For this reason, I tend to set my convergence such that at my ideal engagement range, C ~ 0.75.

So for a 150 m ideal range, I'd set the convergence to 200 m; for a 225 m ideal engagement range I'd set the the convergence to 300 m etc.

It's also worth observing that the more tightly your gun installation is grouped, the stronger the argument for a long convergence, since the if you have fuselage guns, your grouping will only fall outside the size of a target fuselage when C>2.

For this reason, I set shorter convergence on my 190's wing cannon than on its main guns. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I understand, but I think what all depends on the distance you are used to fire.

I never find myself folowing a faster plane, not firing to it from more than 200m since it means that you have failed the first attack. And of course you become a very fire for the flies if you shoot that way (usually online the less you fire, the more you are safe)

And of course 0.50cal at 400m should be more less effective on the enemy plane.

DKoor
06-25-2009, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
Dkoor,

For any plane with .50 cals i use 250-275 convergence, and aim for the engine or cockpit.

On Ju-88s i make a sweeping pass from the side, and avoid direct six. With the right speed you can do side to side sweeps. Hey mate... it's quite hopeless... your tactic is however best adapted one on attack on Ju-88's.

I've employed it and noticed how they can't aim at you if you come from side at higher alt, on speed of course... you have enough time to shoot a half-sec burst on E/A. You have to be steady at rudder, very steady (for corrections).

Why I said hopeless?
At best I can hope, if I have a bit luck and am very concentrated, to kill 4 Ju-88's with this tactic.
Just look at this:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/ju88-damage.jpg

That machine would probably be unflyable if only 1/2 of that bullets hit, let alone as presented on pic.
I started to shot from some 500m to a point where I had to pull out.

Oh... and did I mention how I never set their engines on fire? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Got unusual number of PK's tho... that Ju-88 DM sure is weird (it's tough & weird).
(I know it's possible under lab conditions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ).

JtD
06-26-2009, 03:38 AM
There's a difference between tough and stupid. Going after B-17's with a 109F-2 is stupid. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jure_502
06-26-2009, 04:26 AM
That's why the Ju88 is my favorite German bomber http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Erkki_M
06-26-2009, 05:25 AM
I survived alone in a Yak-7A against 7 Bf109F4s(online, CZ_AH_Dedicated).

I managed to get 59 kills in-a-row with P51 on WarClouds and Spitsvs109s.

I managed to get 105 kills on FR servers before running out of fuel in a Hellcat - with two Zekes chasing close! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And as last, but definately not the least, I got killed twice in a row by a Bf-110's(which I was chasing) bomb! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

DKoor
06-26-2009, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by Erkki_M:
I survived alone in a Yak-7A against 7 Bf109F4s(online, CZ_AH_Dedicated).

I managed to get 59 kills in-a-row with P51 on WarClouds and Spitsvs109s.

I managed to get 105 kills on FR servers before running out of fuel in a Hellcat - with two Zekes chasing close! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And as last, but definately not the least, I got killed twice in a row by a Bf-110's(which I was chasing) bomb! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Whow... I would really like to see your tracks if you have any, I really enjoy such stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif .
I myself often do some things then forget to record them, it is cool to replay them later, especially that stuff like surviving in a Yak which is a true underdog. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BillSwagger
06-26-2009, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillSwagger:
Dkoor,

For any plane with .50 cals i use 250-275 convergence, and aim for the engine or cockpit.

On Ju-88s i make a sweeping pass from the side, and avoid direct six. With the right speed you can do side to side sweeps. Hey mate... it's quite hopeless... your tactic is however best adapted one on attack on Ju-88's.

I've employed it and noticed how they can't aim at you if you come from side at higher alt, on speed of course... you have enough time to shoot a half-sec burst on E/A. You have to be steady at rudder, very steady (for corrections).

Why I said hopeless?
At best I can hope, if I have a bit luck and am very concentrated, to kill 4 Ju-88's with this tactic.
Just look at this:
(picture deleted)
That machine would probably be unflyable if only 1/2 of that bullets hit, let alone as presented on pic.
I started to shot from some 500m to a point where I had to pull out.

Oh... and did I mention how I never set their engines on fire? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Got unusual number of PK's tho... that Ju-88 DM sure is weird (it's tough & weird).
(I know it's possible under lab conditions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i did a few QMBs with 4 ace Ju-88s using a P-47 and i had no trouble bringing all four down.
I used sweep attacks from the side to start, and as one plane got damaged it would slow down and fall away from the squad. Then id focus on hitting it more heavily and in closer range.
I did this with the other three, and by the time there were only two planes left, i could make more aggressive passes on them.
I'm not sure what you are doing differently.
My convergence is at 275M and 250M.
I found that if i set my site on where the wing meets the fuselage at 400-500m distance, the bullets are impacting at a decent spread on the wing, igniting both the inner wing and outer wing fuel tanks.
This can be done in one pass.
Pilot kills were achieved by using the elevator and rudder to sweep the fuselage. Impacts first appear on the tail or mid frame, concentrating the bead toward the front with the use of elevators. It might even rock a bit, but your bead will sweep up and down on a 1 to 2 second burst.
As for damage to my plane, it was very minimal, and in one instance there was smoke coming from the engine but no significant loss of power. There was one attempt where i slowed on a trios six for too long and my engine took heavy damage, and I had to abort.
So i recommend using sweeping attacks from the side, or high speed passes from the six, but do not attack from low six or at a slow rate of speed.

Also a steady aim with use of rudder and elevator is necessary to be a successful pilot, especially in a sim of this nature.

BillSwagger
06-26-2009, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Erkki_M:
I survived alone in a Yak-7A against 7 Bf109F4s(online, CZ_AH_Dedicated).

I managed to get 59 kills in-a-row with P51 on WarClouds and Spitsvs109s.

I managed to get 105 kills on FR servers before running out of fuel in a Hellcat - with two Zekes chasing close! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And as last, but definately not the least, I got killed twice in a row by a Bf-110's(which I was chasing) bomb! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Whow... I would really like to see your tracks if you have any, I really enjoy such stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif .
I myself often do some things then forget to record them, it is cool to replay them later, especially that stuff like surviving in a Yak which is a true underdog. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Not to knock these impressive feats, cause i know i can't come close to scoring that many kills in a row, but i do find the Full Switch servers more survivable than open pit servers.

Manu-6S
06-26-2009, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Erkki_M:
I survived alone in a Yak-7A against 7 Bf109F4s(online, CZ_AH_Dedicated).

I managed to get 59 kills in-a-row with P51 on WarClouds and Spitsvs109s.

I managed to get 105 kills on FR servers before running out of fuel in a Hellcat - with two Zekes chasing close! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And as last, but definately not the least, I got killed twice in a row by a Bf-110's(which I was chasing) bomb! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Whow... I would really like to see your tracks if you have any, I really enjoy such stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif .
I myself often do some things then forget to record them, it is cool to replay them later, especially that stuff like surviving in a Yak which is a true underdog. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Not to knock these impressive feats, cause i know i can't come close to scoring that many kills in a row, but i do find the Full Switch servers more survivable than open pit servers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Depends on who is in the server... if there are guys with no SA its sure that you will kill many of them.

If you have a bad SA you will be killed many times... always if you know the vector for the enemy front and you don't fly around in the opposite direction.

In reality I find that the pilot's quality in Spitvs109 is really low in this last months (except for some rare aces). This because the admins...



Good performance Erkki!!!!

What's you nickname on HL.. I'm quite sure I've fled with you sometimes!

general_kalle
06-26-2009, 09:19 AM
landed an IL2 on the roof wihout damage to anyhing else than vertical stabalizer

idonno
06-26-2009, 10:18 AM
I was flying a 39 against a 109 in QMB. I ended up behind him just barely in gun range, but the AI was flying along nice and steady so I figured what the heck, I took careful aim, allowed for a lot of bullet drop and fired off one 37mm round. It took some time to get there, but it took of the 109's vertical stabilizer and the pilot bailed out. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

sakai2005
06-26-2009, 12:55 PM
I shot a plane down that was trying straff me as i rolled out my landing.soon as my tail dropped i pulled the trigger and he flew into the fire after he passed by.boy was he ****ed lol.

Kingsman39
06-26-2009, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Kingsman39:
I'm on the road, so I was unable to put this to video. I was a bit bored and attempted an unusual landing. At some point during my take off, my fuel tank caught fire (this explains the spectacular explosion at the end.) Enjoy: 4.09 needed

http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647...fef7bbcd28/quick0248 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647596a-5898-4797-910a-a5fef7bbcd28/quick0248)

Did anyone successfully view this track?

DKoor
06-26-2009, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Kingsman39:
I'm on the road, so I was unable to put this to video. I was a bit bored and attempted an unusual landing. At some point during my take off, my fuel tank caught fire (this explains the spectacular explosion at the end.) Enjoy: 4.09 needed

http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647...fef7bbcd28/quick0248 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647596a-5898-4797-910a-a5fef7bbcd28/quick0248) Seems to me that you did it on some modded map because I can't load it on my v4.09b1m (latest game version).

Screenshot:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/map_load_error.jpg

Kingsman39
06-26-2009, 03:53 PM
It should work now... thanks DKoor.

DKoor
06-26-2009, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Kingsman39:
It should work now... thanks DKoor. No prob m8, I'm gonna review it now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif .

mortoma
06-26-2009, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by JtD:
There's a difference between tough and stupid. Going after B-17's with a 109F-2 is stupid. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif No, it would only be stupid if it were real life. In the game it's called extremely challenging.

DKoor
06-26-2009, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Kingsman39:
I'm on the road, so I was unable to put this to video. I was a bit bored and attempted an unusual landing. At some point during my take off, my fuel tank caught fire (this explains the spectacular explosion at the end.) Enjoy: 4.09 needed

http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647...fef7bbcd28/quick0248 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/c647596a-5898-4797-910a-a5fef7bbcd28/quick0248) Seems to me that you did it on some modded map because I can't load it on my v4.09b1m (latest game version).

Screenshot:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/map_load_error.jpg

Kingsman39
06-27-2009, 02:56 PM
The track was captured on the Spits vs. 109 Mod server. Thanks for giving it a shot. Cheers.

DKoor
06-27-2009, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Kingsman39:
The track was captured on the Spits vs. 109 Mod server. Thanks for giving it a shot. Cheers. You welcome m8. I hope guys with modded game can see it.
I have some mods, but very few none of which include custom maps (so far).

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