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Cmdrjay1
03-28-2007, 02:26 AM
I recently switched over from my beloved Spitfire to the Luftwaffe arsenal. I like both the 190 and the 109, and I have been flying them both with much success. Im pretty decent at the BnZ technique, but I have been flying both planes using the same climb and dive routine. How should my tactics differ with each plane?

Cmdrjay1
03-28-2007, 02:26 AM
I recently switched over from my beloved Spitfire to the Luftwaffe arsenal. I like both the 190 and the 109, and I have been flying them both with much success. Im pretty decent at the BnZ technique, but I have been flying both planes using the same climb and dive routine. How should my tactics differ with each plane?

La7_brook
03-28-2007, 02:57 AM
heres my short and sweet: late mod 109,s , slow the fight down , antons keep the fight fast http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

BBB_Hyperion
03-28-2007, 03:01 AM
190s trim down 109s trim up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

fuzzychickens
03-28-2007, 11:05 AM
Most 190 models are absolutely the best planes for BnZ. The fast roll rate and high speed control makes adjusting your attack to poor victims who try to evade much easier than in the 109 or for that matter just about any other plane.

Fly the 190 down on victims like you want to collide with them and unleash your firepower and avoid the collision at the last second...the result is usually a 190 zooming back up over a cloud of airplane parts (esp with A9).

Xiolablu3
03-28-2007, 11:50 AM
If you do not know what energy tactics and B&Z are then read up on them as you cannot excell in a FW190 by flying it like aSPitfire or Bf109, your turn will never get you out of trouble unless you are very very fast.

It is also much safer than Turn and Burn, you will find yourself getting shot down less and less until its a rare occurance.

Practice using the Fw190A4 against 3 Spitfire Vb's in QMB. STart 1000m or more above them and shoot them all down.

Once you can do it then youwill have learned energy fighting and B&Z because there is no other way to do it. You will know when you have got it wrong, because if you start using any sort of Turn and Burn manouvres, the Spitfire's will be on you like a shot and you will not last one horizontal turn..

Once you get it right, it should be really really easy, as the SPitfire Vb in game is no match for the FW190A4 in enegy manouvres.

To learn even quicker, get online and cover a good FW190 pilots six. He will appreciate it and you will learn how he gets those 10-1 KD ratios.

K_Freddie
03-28-2007, 05:59 PM
As the self acclaimed 'godfather' of the BF109 and FW190's... I shall educate you on the alternative combat prowness of these a/c.

First and foremost, both a/c are equally comfortable in BnZ (cowardice) and Turn-n-Burn (Hero) tactics. Although these a/c experience a loss of 'E' more significantly than their opponents, they control the combat situation, whether it be from in front or behind.

First and foremost you must remember that the Bf109/FW190 have superior ability at landing speeds, as well as high speed, than any allied a/c. Going 'Low and Slow' is a life saver and a killer of allied a/c, contrary to most uneducated doctrines.

If you're prepared to get out of the 'perpetual box' of 'by the book tactics'... you might learn something new
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WWSpinDry
03-28-2007, 06:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:Practice ... in QMB. STart 1000m or more above them ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How do you set up QMB so you can start at 1000m above the enemy aircraft? The setup screen only has one altitude field.

Ratsack
03-28-2007, 08:08 PM
Set the situation to 'advantage' and it gives you about 1,000 m of altitude over the enemy. The situation is otherwise identical to the 'none' setting.

cheers,
Ratsack

BfHeFwMe
03-28-2007, 09:04 PM
That superior ability at landing speeds will sure come in handy during a contested landing with the allies.

Otherwise do like the rest, RUN! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

WWSpinDry
03-29-2007, 02:30 PM
Roger that, Ratsack; thanks. I read too much into the post, thought maybe there was a way to make the initial alt difference variable. D'oh! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif