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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 05:06 PM
Personally, I want these:
B-17
B-24
B-25
A-20
P-36
P-63
He-111Z
P-40B
P-38
A6M2
Well, what do you want?
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 05:06 PM
Personally, I want these:
B-17
B-24
B-25
A-20
P-36
P-63
He-111Z
P-40B
P-38
A6M2
Well, what do you want?
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 05:20 PM
- BF 110
- Mc 202
- Spitfire MkI, II
- Ju 88
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 05:33 PM
HAWK 75
MB152
Potez 64
breguet693BF110
TEMPEST
JU88
MC202
MC200
IAR80/81
SPITFIRES !!!
(P51,as a target but flown by yankwhiners instead of AI /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif )
but,in the waiting,i'd like:
readable compass on EVERY plane (currently yaks,I16,early IL2s and some others are unreadable).
ACCURATE markings on NormandieNiemen planes (currently they have stars on the upperside of wings,wich is inaccurate,plus the numbers are too forward).
many other things need patching at the moment,i'd prefer everything broken beeing repaired b4 thinking of new planes....
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 06:07 PM
I'd request only bombers - we have enough fighters http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
me110
a20
b17
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 06:09 PM
Po2!
Nikko
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 06:12 PM
Spitfires!
P-51's
P-38's
Mosquito's
and the B-10!
falcon
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 06:12 PM
Fiseler storch.
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 06:18 PM
P-40N
Spitfires
Typhoon/Tempest
P-26 Peashooter--for laughs
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 07:38 PM
+ these:
PZL P.37
Ar 196
PZL P.24
Hs 123
Do 17
FW 200
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 07:39 PM
Bombers::
Il~4
Tu~2
Ju~88
...Do~17 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
oh...Ar~234 Yes!
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:10 PM
BF-110
JU-88
"An attack against a unit of Flying Fortresses was something like controlled suicide...Sometimes 50, Sometimes 80 machine guns were firing at you... You attempted to close you eyes & continue to fire, Frightened to death, Frightened to death."
Oberst Johannes Steinhoff (176 kills)
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:18 PM
I'm holding out for the Ju-52 and Li-2 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
Seriously, though, I'm looking forward to the P-63 Kingcobra.
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:24 PM
I'm waiting for any of the Focke-Wulf 190 series to be flyable.
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:26 PM
any spitfire, im dreaming of! also wouldnt mind a mosquito or a beaufighter theyd be fun to fly
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:30 PM
Spitfires and the Tempest.
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:40 PM
Sakkaaja wrote:
- I'm waiting for any of the Focke-Wulf 190 series to
- be flyable.
True, true!
"An attack against a unit of Flying Fortresses was something like controlled suicide...Sometimes 50, Sometimes 80 machine guns were firing at you... You attempted to close you eyes & continue to fire, Frightened to death, Frightened to death."
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:45 PM
Well... not only airplanes, but also 5 or 6 maps of the Western Front and related campaigns (So that the following places are included: Norway, Denmark, Northern Germany and North Sea; All Germany; West Germany Lower Countries and East France; The English Channel, Northern France and England; Western France and Atlantic). So that I can fly:
P-38
B-17
B-24
B-25
B-26
Lancaster
Mosquitos
Spitfires
Tempests
Bf-110C and G
Me-410A and B
Ju-88C-6 and G
And many others! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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Obviously, I would even pay for this Add-On... But pleeeease Oleg... do it! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 11:13 PM
IAR-80/81, as i originally come from Romania ;-)
Ta-152
Spitfires
P-38
Hawker Tempest
B-25 would also be nice, but I'm definately a fighter jock
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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 11:17 PM
Spirfire!!
Tempest!!
AVRO Lancaster
Donier Albatros
B17
and most of all...
Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!! Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!! Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!! Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!! Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!Spirfire!!
Thank you!!!!
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 11:27 PM
A wish list !?!
- Po-2
- Su2
- Il4
- Tu2 and Tu2S
- Pe2s and Pe3s
- Storch
- Hs-123
- Ju88 ( hopefully they are coming /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif )
- Me110 ( same as above )
- Ju188 ( oh yes that would be great... )
- Hs129
- Me210Ca1 and Me410 A1/A2 , B1/B2
- FW190F9
- P38
- P51 as it is coming /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif
Non flyable B24 for ploesti missions
Do 217 even as non flyable would be great
Stuvi bomb sight for all so equiped planes
Better AI for all ground units and revised datas for some units in both resistance to hits and coumpared accuracy /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif
- More T34 variants in both 76 and 85 gunnery, some weakest armour or better Bk3.7 rounds /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif
- no more uber 76mm field gun or improved gunnery and accuracy for all the others including self propelled assault guns /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif
- Su 122
- Brummbar
- 37mm static russian and german flak, same on trucks and half tracks
- static flakvierling
- Light flak ( twin MGs and single heavy machineguns ) static and on cars.
- Panther G
- Pak 40 and 43
Better forward field of view and higher pilots's head POV for the FWs /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif
Armor piercing ammo for some planes, more bombs, rockets, and most important various sub munitions ( bigger bomblets and anti armour hollow charge ) to fit some more dispensers than now.
Improved AI for low level bombing and real ability to dive for some planes ( the FWs for example ). Adding the popu-up abilty after low level ingress without completely disorientating the AI.
Ability to order the AI to attack light anti armour artillery ( instead of only " tanks " mixing trucks with AA and real armour.... or " flak " just attacking big guns )
I've got some more but may be it is enough /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif
Couldn't speak about some more flyables planes wishes without considering the whole FB subject /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif
XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 11:47 PM
i want
SPITFIRES
More 190s
bf 110
Mosquito
SPIRFIRES
Tempest
Spiteful
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 12:04 AM
SPITFIRE SPITFIRE SPITFIRE!!!!!!!!!
Oh please god I want to fly a spitfire :-)
P.S maybe a lancaster and/or a mosiquito but most of all a lovely spitfire
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 12:19 AM
Definitely a Spitfire, Mk. Vb, IX, or XIV. P-51 Mustang (but we know that's coming). B-17, B-25 (AI or flyable, I don't care). Typhoon or Tempest and Some italian planes, like Mc.200 or 202 or 205, Fiat G-50 or G.55, Fiat Cr.42 or Reggiane 2000-2005 series. Bf-110 would be nice, and I don't know how correct a beaufighter, mosquito or He-219 would be, but it would be neat to have a night fighter aspect to the game. Obviously not all these planes are realistic or possible, but just a few would be good inclusions into a great sim.
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 12:47 AM
1. The Moranes or if limited too at least the MC 410
2. Spitfire cause she's just a beut.
3. MC 202, The italians need some love.
4. Bf110 cause twin engines are just cool and the germans
need more varitey.
5. Anything old, slow, and generally classed as worthless
to P-51, Dora, and Yak 3 fanboys.
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 01:06 AM
Amongst others the Fokker D.XXI and other a/c's from the russian front we still haven't seen in any flightsim.
No reason, for my part, to make Spitfire's and Mustangs or B-17's for that matter, have seen them all before.....
But they will make good prey though..
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 01:14 AM
tempest
bf110
me210/410
Some other russian bomber
mistel ^^
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 02:33 AM
Gloster Gladiator, and an 1940 Norwegian Air Force skin/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
"Blackburn finally got to make a plane the way they wanted to, they got a solid block of aluminium and drilled holes in it".
Comment on the Blackburn Buccaneer.
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 02:58 AM
S!
Sakkaaja wrote:
- I'm waiting for any of the Focke-Wulf 190 series to
- be flyable.
-
- <img src=http://sivusto.servepics.com/cappa.gif>
-
- "God kills a kitten everytime I switch off the
- cockpit." - Visigoth 6
-
- "my ego is so far advanced that it just doesn't
- care." - RayBanJockey
"I am a Wurgerwhiner, like my father before me."
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 03:48 AM
Bf-110 most definately, been waiting for this one for a looooong time..cant wait to have her!
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 04:12 AM
Pe-2, Pe-3, Pe-3bis, Tu-2, IL-4, Bf-110, Ju-88, IL-10 in that order, If those boys from Brazil are still working on it, the B-25 would be nice too. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 04:32 AM
P-47 C,M,N
P-38
B-17
P-51
B-25
B-24
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 05:00 AM
Spitfire mkI
Spitfire mkV
Spitfire mkIXe
Spitfire mkXIV
Spitfire mk22
any other spitfire that is being modeled
Oleg should have a patch just for spitfires /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 06:20 AM
Fw 190
Glasses-"I may have four eyes but you only have one wing"
"Kurt Tank is your daddy"
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 06:59 AM
Hs 129B tank buster
Ju 88A and C
Me 110C
Yak7 bubbletop series
trebby
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 07:33 AM
IAR 80/81
P-51 B,C,D
Spits
Ikarus Ik-2
Rog(cant spell rest)Ik-3
Bf-109B,C,D
Heinkel 162
Heinkel 112
Heinkel 110
Focke Wulf Ta182
Morko Morane
Morane Sulnier MS406
Fokker D.XXI
Dewtoine D.520
VL Myrsky 2
Gloster Gladiator
Polikarpov I-15
thats about all really except for all the mentioned heavies
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 08:12 AM
Me-109F-4/B
Hs-129
Hs-123
He-115
Me-110
MC-202
G-50
Pe-2/3
Hawk A75
Fokker D.XXI
IAR 80/81
FW-189
FW-200
Of course TA-152C/H
More more special weapon for German for example AB 24T SD, PC 500... blah blah...just some weapons that used often at Russian front http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/bombs.html
Regards
SnowLeopard
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 09:25 AM
Bf-110C-4
Bf-110C-4/B
Bf-110G-2
Bf-110C-4
Bf-110C-4/B
Bf-110G-2
Bf-110C-4
Bf-110C-4/B
Bf-110G-2
Hmm ahh, wait, 110 is no new flyable plane, that's a bugfix!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
So:
Me-163
Ta-152H
Ta-152C
Yak-9B
P-51D
He-162
Pe-2/3 series
Pe-8 (Hey they also need a proper bomber)
Hs-129
B-25H
Ju-88
He-100
Ar-234
Il-4 / DB-3 series
Spit V / IX (most common ones on EF /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 10:23 AM
He-177
Ar-234
Ju-88
Ju-188
Do-17
He-219
B-29
Spitfire
Bf-110
Me-210
Ta-152, why not
Ho-229
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 10:43 AM
What I wish are those were used in East front line historically!
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 11:36 AM
Simple answer, I would like to fly soon the aircrafts which are very soon to be ready or are already finished: P-51, Ju-88 and especially the Me-110.
Why especially the Me110? Because there are still many aircrafts for either the T&B and the B&Z pilots, there are aircrafts for the ground-attack or the bomber pilots, but there are no twin-engined aircrafts which can be flown as intruders and the 110 can do this job. Of course, for other "intruders" aircrafts, I would like to see the Tu-2, the Boston and even more the Mosquito or the Ju-88S. In fact, fast bombers which can do their mission with no escort and good chances of surviving against single-engined fighters for a new style of flying!
Cheers,
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 12:07 PM
Bf 110
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 12:09 PM
I would like:
Mainly He 162
Arado 234
and all the other Japanese and German planes.
No American planes. They suck :-)
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 12:17 PM
Oh yeh what is the P-63 I've hear everyone talk about it.
does it look like a big blue circle with two propellors?
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 01:40 PM
Fw187 A.0
Do335 A-1/B-2
JU88 A-4/C-6
AR 234 B-2
Bf110 G-2
Hs 129
Hs 123
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XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 03:21 PM
1. He 162 --on the way.
2. CR.42
3. MC.205
4. Avia B.534
5. Ta 152H
6. Hawk 75A
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 03:37 PM
Spitfires
Do-335
BF-110
Catalina
Ms406
D-520
Block152
Hawk75
Ta152
Mc205
Re-2005
lots of other i forgot
I prefer planes good modelised as lots of planes bad modelised.
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 08:14 PM
Flyable priorities:
Bf-110
Ju-88
Do-17
Storch
Some Italian Fighters
A more modern Soviet bomber (SB, DB3, etc) (the TB-3 is wonderful but it's ancient)
The suggestion of more maps from other locations (not Eastern Front) would be great and we'd gladly buy many add-ons that would add maps and planes for the entire European theater.
Forget the dang jets...
- Mithel
XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 11:05 PM
I'd really love an A20.
Do17,
Mc200/202/205,
Bf110,
Pe3.
IAR,
Gladiator.
The Russian bombers already in the game, and the Blenheim too.
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 12:34 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!! HAWKER TEMPEST Mk.V !!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!! AVIA B-135 !!!!!!!!!!!
Spitfire I, II, Va, Vb, Vc, VI, LF Mk. IXe, F MkIX, Mk. XII, Mk. XIV...
Hawker Typhoon
Mosquitos
Corsair - any WW2 version
Dewoitine D520
Marcel Bloch
If i think about it - i want all planes which fly during WW2 from War in Spain to end of war in Pacific theatre /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 02:21 AM
aircraft already in game but not flyable
Storch
PBY
Dakota
aircraft not in game
P38
Mk Vc and Mk VIII Spitfires (used by RAAF)
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 05:41 AM
P-47 C,M,N
P-38
P-36 Apache Dive Bomber (variant of p-51 only with dive brakes)
B-17
P-51
B-25
B-24
A-20
Black widow ( with working radar)
Kingcobra
FW-190a-3
P-82 {twin p-51} (46' prodject)
Bf-109 twin
p-80
He-111Z
He-111 ZZ willing
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05-30-2003, 08:01 AM
PE-8
TU-2
Hs-129
P63
Ki-100
Corsair
Hellcat
BF-110
HE-162
HE-111Z
Spitfire Mk 5
MK 8
Mk 22
Hurricane + griffon
Zero
P-38
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 08:51 AM
IAR80/81
HS129
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 09:28 AM
Spitfire (any)
Macci 202/205
Tempest
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XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 10:51 AM
No new planes!!! We need realistic (!!!!) FM and DM for the all already flyable aircraft.
++ 88.IAP_Manuc ++
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 12:24 PM
Pe-3bis,Pe-2,Tu-2,Il-4---Soviets
Bf-110G-2,Ju-88,Me-210---Deutch
Douglass a20
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XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 03:34 PM
FIAT G50
HAWK 75
Spitfires.
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 04:15 PM
Any Spitfire
Typhoon
Whirlwind
Mosquito
and to prove I am not totally RAF biased, P38 and B17
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 04:37 PM
Look, the 190's are flyable. Don't turn, run
then scream back and wipe out the opposition with the destroyer guns you've got on the front of that thing.
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 09:12 PM
Hi
I would like try these:
B17 (of course! - imagine to fly a B17 in cooperative mode lan game with the complete crew!)
P61 (Black Widow) - This is "bala", like we speak over here in Brasil)
The "zeros" (but japan age was later!!!)
And Big germans and russians bombers...
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 09:21 PM
P 51
zero
spitfire
flying online as 25th_Inmate
ryan2107 = offical IL 2 lawyer
XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 10:00 PM
These two ones, two aircrafts perfectly "on topic"
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Cheers,
XyZspineZyX
05-31-2003, 07:03 AM
I am hoping developers and future modelers get a chance to see everyone's postings. Here are some of my fav's.
Bf-110G-2
Bf-110G-4
Bf-110C-4
B-25J
B-25G
Hs-129B-2
Hs-129B-3/Wa
IAR80
IAR81
MC.202
MC.205
Ju-88C-6
Ju-88G-7
Ju-88P-1
Tu-2
FW-200
B-25B
B-25C
B-25D
Pe-3bis
Pe-2(359th)
Ju-88A-4
Robster(44)
[edited because I keep thinking of new a/c to suggest /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ]
Message Edited on 05/31/03â 06:27AM by rbstr44
Message Edited on 05/31/03â 06:29AM by rbstr44
Message Edited on 05/31/0306:51AM by rbstr44
XyZspineZyX
05-31-2003, 09:16 AM
Reggiane Re-2002 Falco
Fiat CR-42
Me-210
these to have a complete Hungarian campaign
Avia B-534 anoter nice biplane (used by Slovaks on the Eastern Front)
Hs-129 to have a good german ground attack plane
And Soviet used bombers:
Pe-2, Il-4, Tu-2, A-20 Boston, B-25
And some Italian fighters:
MC-200, MC-202
Basically planes that were actually used on the front.
XyZspineZyX
05-31-2003, 09:40 AM
hmm alot of people want the spitfire.... doesnt this tell oleg something... oh yes.. i would love a SPITFIRE plz
XyZspineZyX
05-31-2003, 08:46 PM
Hi guys, I'm the one that started the thread. Good stuff!! Keep it coming. Maybe the modelers will see this thread if it gets big enough. By the way, I left out my fav. plane in the world. PBY Catalina
Boosher
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XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 12:04 AM
B17, P-51, a better P-47, P-39, a better P-40, Me-110, Ju-88
XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 01:53 AM
I guess a Spitfire would be really cool
But as said before, a Mk V would be perfect, because it saw service in the russian front
I'd also like that no matte what planes are added in the sim, they, at least, saw service in the russian front
I think that Zeros didn't saw service in the russian front. Am I wrong?
XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 05:19 AM
Name: FiNaZZi
Rank: Newbie
FiNaZZi wrote:
- I guess a Spitfire would be really cool
- But as said before, a Mk V would be perfect, because
- it saw service in the russian front
-
- I'd also like that no matte what planes are added in
- the sim, they, at least, saw service in the russian
- front
-
- I think that Zeros didn't saw service in the russian
- front. Am I wrong?
-
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06-01-2003, 07:13 AM
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p63-1.jpg
P-63C5 Kingcobra.
delivery date: Dec 1944
number of C models built: 1227
weight: 8800lbs (3992kg)
engine/HP: Allison V-1710-117 1500hp @ sea level, 1800hp with WEP/water injection
max speed: 410mph @ 25000 ft (660kph @ 7620m)
climb: 25000ft (7620m) in 8.6 min
armament: 1 X 1.45" (37mm) M10 cannon, 4 X .50" (12.7mm) MG
C model had ventral fins and larger tail, which helped with directional stability - stalls less frequent. It is by no means an "uber" plane, but would make a welcome addition to the Cobra plane sets....
From iL-2center/Luthiers site:
We originally planned on doing the Kingcobra from scratch, because we already had a highly detailed, 3dsmax model of a P-63 already completed. We were actually going to try to reduce the poly count and adapt it to IL-2, but we decided it was too much work. What we are doing now is "morphing" the P-39 model that Maddox Team did into a P-63. We are also using Il-2's P-39 cockpit and modifying it to a P-63. There are a number of differences, but many objects and textures such as the throttle quadrant, gauges, etc. are common and this saves us some work.
We are nearly done with the airframe shape, although there are some details we need to attend to, and then I have to retexture). So I guess it would be fair to say that we are 60-70% finished with the airframe and 60% finished with the cockpit.
This was more than 8 months ago. Unfortunately, this is not currently being worked on - the modeler was re-assigned another aircraft. Is it possible for 1C:Maddox to complete this project? Please?
XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 10:47 AM
-Fw 190A-6
-Fokker C.X
-M.S. 406
-Mörkö Morane
-Dornier Do 17Z
-Spitfire Mk I, II
-MiG-1
-Polikarpov I-15
XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 01:32 PM
This one /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
http://www.luft46.com/mess/me609.html
the Me309 and 609... the latter is the daddy of the Twin Mustang (look at my Sig)
I would be glad if someone made these two planes. It would be very easy because the 609 is just two 309s sticked together - so it wouldn't take much extra time.
Cockpit visibility in the 609 is quite limited but SO WHAT... it is a Zerstörer and meant to destroy bombers and ground targets
Armament is 4xMk108 (!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ) in the Zerstörer version and 2xMk108 in the fighter-bomber role... as a bomber it can carry 2x SC1000 bombs! That's quite a blast LOL
So it would be really cool to see these babes in FB... they are a lot more interesting to fly than one of those "fly-it-30mins-and-then-throw-it-away" crap like the TB3 mothership with those 2 Tie-Fighters /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif or the Zeke/Zero and the Me163 Komet...
I WANT MY 309/609 (please!)
http://www.luft46.com/mess/309-2.gif
XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 02:24 PM
Lots of new flyable planes are always welcome, but in a way leave me cold.http://forums.ubi.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
All I want is to be able to fly the Fokker D XXI !http://forums.ubi.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
and a Fiat CR.42 ofcourse...http://forums.ubi.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Roast
XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 06:08 PM
Of those seen among the updates, are Fiat G.50 and Me 110 the most exciting ones...
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 03:26 AM
Hs-129
Regards
SnowLeopard
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 08:54 AM
Waiting
Me110
Pe2
Pe3
B17
U2
Not waitÃÂ*ng
P51
Spitfire
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 10:20 AM
Bf-110G-2
Bf-110G-4
Bf-110C-4
Tu-2
Hs-129B-2
Hs-129B-3/Wa
Ju-88A-4
Ju-88C-6
Ju-88G-7
Ju-88P-1
FW-200
B-25B
B-25C
B-25D
Pe-3bis
Pe-2
Me 210/410
IAR80
IAR81
MC.202
MC.205
Gruß BR
http://www.histoiredumonde.net/images/20_eme_siecle/avions/bf110/intro.jpg
Message Edited on 06/25/0311:21AM by BlackRookie
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 10:21 AM
I'd rather have the non-flyable ac made flyable before getting new planes. Always seems annoying having planes in a game and then not being able to fly them. The one exception to that rule would be SPITFIRE. The MkIX.LF was sent in more numbers than any of the others and was used for the defence of Moscow. [1186 LF.IXs and 2 HF.IXs, also 140 or so VBs]
Otherwise, get the Bf-110 flyable and the Pe-2. TB-3 is good for a laugh, but for the other 95% of the war a Pe-2 would be a much more representative VVS bomber.
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 11:51 AM
I think I want ...
F-15
F-16
F-18
EF2000
A-10
and I think that should be enough. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 11:53 AM
ta-152h
dora11 with mk108 or ta-152c
190a1 had first combat 41 against spit5
me110
spit1
spit5
spit9
spit14
but ta-152c was only few build
Message Edited on 06/25/0302:13PM by Skalgrim
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 11:57 AM
TA 152 H/C
Stuka D5
FW 190 D11
Tempest
Me 110
He 129
spit like everybody (mk1 for BOB in fact)
whirlwind
all heavy bomber as AI like B17,B24,lancaster etc.... defended by Mustang and P47 and attacked by all german plane of late war made for fly at upper altitude and for destroye bomber(Me163,Fw190 sturmbock...)
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 12:51 PM
Aaah So!
Imperial Japanese Naval Fighter ZERO
Huy!
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 12:53 PM
Sakkaaja wrote:
- I'm waiting for any of the Focke-Wulf 190 series to
- be flyable.
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under 30k?
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 03:29 PM
Fokker D-21 Ju52
B-25 Ju86
A-20 Me 323
B-24 Pe2/3
B-17 Tu2
Lancaster Pe8
Mossie He 112
Me110 He 177 Grief
Me410 He 219 uhu
Ju88 Hs 123
Ju188 Hs 129
Do17 Fw 200 condor
Do215 Fi 156
Do217 Ar 232
FW189 Ar 196
Do217
This list and all the bombers/recon and ahter multi crew/engine plane`s and all the ahter A.I. that i forgot to type most be flyable and in this game.
If there is not rescource to make it historical correct than its ok by me to make it close to historical.
Buht all the plane`s most be flyable no A.I. exclusife models anymore
Greatings I/KG26_Oranje
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 03:43 PM
I want all the planes of WWII!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
what????!!??? too many????
I have to make choice.....
So
Hawker Typhoon
Hawker Tempest
Spitfire mk I,V,VIII,IX.......
Seafire
Lancaster
B17
B24
F4U Corsair
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:04 PM
Awesome guys!!! Keep it up!!
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:59 PM
Would someone please put me out of my misery and make this monster flyable?
http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW/Dor335.jpg
http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 07:33 PM
Do 335... gotta love that pusher/puller prop stuff
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 07:49 PM
Po-2
I-15
Storch
Retractable gear is of the devil, I tell you!
XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 07:55 PM
Author: warhawk_530
Rank: Lonely Postman
Date: 06/25/03 10:51AM
I think I want ...
F-15
F-16
F-18
EF2000
A-10
and I think that should be enough.
- warhawk.........lol these planes will never make it to il2..........try LOMAC..../i/smilies/16x16_man-happy.gif
I would like....
b17G
P-51d
Lancaster
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 07:57 PM
bf110
p51d
all mid and heavy bombers
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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 12:37 AM
I'd love to see an IL-10 late in the war(it was in service by VE day),
as well as a Bf109B, which would open up the way to the Spanish civil war.
Also the FW200 Condor would be great.In AI of course.
Other planes I'd love to fly would be the DO335 in the fighter campaign, and the Ar 234 Blitz in the fighter/bomber campaign.
Finaly,if anyone can create a flyable Commonwealth Boomerang I would say thank you very much!
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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 01:42 AM
In case i havent posted in this thread before, ill post now. (short memory...)
Ju-88
Bf-110
Spitfire
Tempest
Whirlwind
P-38
A to hell with it. ALL OF THEM! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 04:39 AM
P-80
Pe-8
DB-3
He-162
Bf-110
Fw-200
P-51
Various Spitfire Variants
Those are among my big favorites. All are in some stage of development (apart from the Pe-8 and DB-3). Still, I'm excited by any new airplane in the game and will fly anything. There's nothing at all I wouldn't welcome (except, of course, for an invisible Mustang with 300 guns).../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 11:18 PM
the Gloster Gladiator!! and som big bomberplane vold be nice /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
dux-1
06-26-2003, 11:24 PM
Macchi 202
Hs 129
He 219
Tempest
XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 11:47 PM
Spitfire MkI, MkII, MkV, MkVc, MKVIII, MkIX
P-38
P-36 Hawk
Mc200
Mc202
Su-2
Bristol Blenheim
XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 12:18 AM
anything that helps complete the range of eastern front aircraft e.g.
Pe2/3
Ju 88
hs 129
Il 10
Me110
Me210
There are more that I'm too tired to think of/look up, but you all know the kind of thing.
Then some of the western front aircraft (though I acknowledge some overlap)
Spits
Typhoon
Tempest
P51 B/D
B17 (together with corrected high altitude FM to enable the 190D9 and Ta152 to shine in the way they should).
Mossie
That nice looking Heinkel Uhu (219?) to fight the Mossie, since it was the only night fighter that could really get near the wonderful Mossie.
Applicable functional radar stations on Mossie and 219 for really abstract night fighting could be, well, potentially amusing.
XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 01:34 AM
P-51...
Spitfire
Tempest
P-38
Ta-152
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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 01:37 AM
IAR 80/81
It was the only Romanian build fighter aircraft of WWII.
I read an account where P-38 pilots who flew against them during the Ploesti raids gave a respectable account of the encounters.
XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 02:15 AM
Just a few more
Reggiane Re.2005
Macchi C.200
Fiat G.55
Macchi C.202/205
Caproni Ca.310-14 series
Fiat Br.20
Piaggio Pi.108B/C/T
CanT. Z.1007
CanT. Z.1018
He.177A-5
Ju-188
Do-217E/K
Bristol Beaufighter
DH Mosquito
that would be all, best regards
PBNA-Boosher wrote:
- Personally, I want these:
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- B-17
- B-24
- B-25
- A-20
- P-36
- P-63
- He-111Z
- P-40B
- P-38
- A6M2
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- Well, what do you want?
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- B-24
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- He-111Z
- P-40B
- P-38
- A6M2
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- Well, what do you want?
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- PBNA-Boosher
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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 03:10 AM
Sakkaaja wrote:
- I'm waiting for any of the Focke-Wulf 190 series to
- be flyable.
-
- <img src=http://sivusto.servepics.com/cappa.gif>
-
- "God kills a kitten everytime I switch off the
- cockpit." - Visigoth 6
-
- "my ego is so far advanced that it just doesn't
- care." - RayBanJockey
Im with this GUY !!!!
Hook it up !!!!!!!!!!
Also fixing the Loadout for the FW's would be nice
P38 Lightning
Corsair
FW200
all flyable & F-modled corectaly
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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 03:51 AM
I want disin'!
Olegs gonna have so much fun doing this FM....
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Rick
XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 05:11 AM
1. Tempest/Typhoon [Tempest on the way and will likely be best looking plane in game /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ] Thanks Alex and Hammerd!
2. Spitfire (any version, but everyone seems to want it so maybe I'll make Tempest my permanent ride. Actually I have always liked Tempest way more than Spitfire in '44, as the Mk XIV shouldn't be considered a Spitfire IMHO).
3. Macchi 202/205 (will be great for axis to have some new options, and a good one at that. A very maneuverable plane with excellent climb should make this plane very effective in FB, but alot will depend on it's armament) Production quality was also said to be excellent, which is a reason I like it so much)
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Message Edited on 06/27/0304:11AM by kyrule2
XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 05:22 AM
this treat looks like a wish letter to santa kalus (oleg is my santa)
"Never forget the past so we dont make the same mistakes in the future"
XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 05:47 AM
- Spitfires....any kind. 60 year old airplane and still sexy !/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I want mine !
-Tempests would be great too !
-and a Lancaster with one of these ten tons beauty nice bombs !!!
XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 12:37 PM
Bf 110
Me 210Ca/410
Ju 88 or Ju-188
He 111H-11 or H-16
He-177A-5
FW 190A-6
Spitfires (I, V, IX and XIV)
B-17
and of course
Bf 109K-4 with a correct flight model.
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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 03:05 PM
Pe-2, Pe-3, Pe-3bis, Tu-2, IL-4, Bf-110, Ju-88, IL-10
I agree completely - for a Russian sim, these should come first before anything.
Again - I can't believe they are not flyable now. Why the tb3 and not a pe model - I still haven't figured this one out.
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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 11:15 PM
Well I want:
Gloster Gladiator
Tempest
Spitfire
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XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 05:16 PM
the only thing we need are 2-engine russian bombers
XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 08:41 PM
Correctly modeled US planes.
XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 12:24 AM
Found in the old pages of il2center: Posted Feb 01.
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After FB goes Gold Oleg will be contacting third party aircraft developers to see what can be included in the first free update. If you have a plane almost ready please contact me (Luthier) so I can get a prospective list together for Oleg. The update will appear soon after FB is released.
http://www.il2center.com/modules.php?name=News&new_topic=29
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Note the wording "first free update". Possibly that'll mean most of the completed or near completed stuff already shown in the Friday updates, plus some others.
Thanks to Rooboy3118's list there are a large number of projects to look at. Get in behind the modelers and you may get them.
From my personal POV I'd like to see what's in the game already made flyable, especially the Hs129, Su-2, Pe2 & 3, the Bf110, and the Italian planes (G-50, Mc202). Oh, and the Ju-88.
As for US a/c. Don't we have enough already?
P39, P40, P47, P51, B-239 (Buffalo), Russian ver of C-47. Why turn Il-2 into SWOTL or Western Front flightsim #347? A good reason why IL-2's so popular is that it isn't the same "uber US planes win the war singlehanded" sim that everything else seems to be. Funny it took a Russian & Co to make a realistic flight-sim. All hail Oleg. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 12:36 AM
P-38J!
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Wow, I really look good on your six. Mind if I stay there?
Crabhart
XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 12:47 AM
more GD discussions move it to the GD section
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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 03:14 AM
Hmm...
Bf-110
Ju-88A
Do-17Z
Ju-88C/G
Ju-88P
Do-17Z "Screech Owl" with the Spanner Anlage or whatever.
In that order.
XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 05:15 AM
Macchi 202 Was disappointed when I got FB & found out this was ai only ;(
I too think the Pe-2/3 should be done & Bf110 will add alot to the game
Spitfire - nice but from what I've read the Russian Spits were in pretty poor shape.
Ki-84 hayate, Had excellant handling from all reports & shuld be great fun as a dogfighter.
Zero, should be a great fun to fly. Oleg created carrier take offs & landings with this plane would be the ultimate. (tho I don't expect we'll get this in FB,
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this earth." -Roberto Clemente
XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 08:00 AM
Zero, should be a great fun to fly. Oleg created carrier take offs & landings with this plane would be the ultimate. (tho I don't expect we'll get this in FB,
There are lots of guys that would love to see a carrier in this game, have you noticed the **** pit under development shots of the Zero.
Take a look at the left and right side outside of the **** pit.
Notice the Wing Fold up positions for the Zero.
XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 12:51 PM
Fokker G.I (First heavy fighter! Supposedly the P-38 was based on it!)
Bf-110 (Great looking heavy fighter)
FW-187
He-219
Ju-88 (If possible, the C-6 heavy fighter version)
Ju-188
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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 02:06 PM
Spitfire
Lancaster (Yes Lancaster, not B-17. I wanna bomb the buggers not give 'em a tickle!)
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Message Edited on 06/29/0301:08PM by Ars_401
XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 07:49 PM
A properly modelled FW-190. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 11:55 PM
GLOSTER GLADIATOR!!!!!!!
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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:07 AM
*bump*
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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:25 AM
Focke Wolf TA152
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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 03:14 AM
bf110,oooo yes
XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 03:55 PM
PHHhhPpt !! Cough, Cough ~
E`hem...what do I want....
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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 04:00 PM
F-15!
and the B-52! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 04:17 PM
there must be a better words for the dutch words "verwende eikels"
personally, i think the bf110 and pe2 would be a great addition
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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 04:23 PM
SPITFIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 10:33 PM
PBNA-Boosher wrote:
- Well, what do you want?
P-47M
TAGERT
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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 03:04 AM
P - 38
flying online as 25th_Inmate
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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 03:18 AM
Fokker D.XXI
Heinkel H.E.8
Hawker Dantorp torpedoaircrafts
De Havilland Moth
Avro Tutors
Dornier DO J/III Wal
Gloster Gauntlet
Fokker D V M/26
Fokker C V M/33
Tiger Moth
Fokker C I
I R recon aircraft
III R recon aircraft
III S
But I'd be happy to see only the Fokker D.XXI /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 11:15 PM
bump for a flyable B17.
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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 02:14 AM
How about this? --> http://community.webshots.com/photo/76256786/76263592RbrsOy
Dont have idea wtf it is but looks cool /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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Message Edited on 07/08/0304:15AM by Stellar73
XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 02:52 AM
I don't really care for any "new" aircraft, I'd just like to see the AI (non flyable) machines that are already in the game get cockpits so that we can fly them!
I realize that there are many excellent modelers out there that have done some incredible work, and I applaud them for it. However, regardless of how much work they have put into a new model to get it into FB, it still requires a tremendous amount of extra work to be done by Oleg's team in order for it to actually become flyable. I would rather see Oleg's team spend their valuable time on the a/c that are already in the game, but which require cockpits. Once they are all done, I'd be in favor of opening the flood gates, and allow anything anyone wants to model.
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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 05:27 AM
Pe2/3
Awesome machine
and pretty important too (to me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)
XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 05:22 PM
IV_JG51_Razor wrote:
- I don't really care for any "new" aircraft, I'd just
- like to see the AI (non flyable) machines that are
- already in the game get cockpits so that we can fly
- them!
-
- I realize that there are many excellent modelers out
- there that have done some incredible work, and I
- applaud them for it. However, regardless of how much
- work they have put into a new model to get it into
- FB, it still requires a tremendous amount of extra
- work to be done by Oleg's team in order for it to
- actually become flyable. I would rather see Oleg's
- team spend their valuable time on the a/c that are
- already in the game, but which require cockpits.
- Once they are all done, I'd be in favor of opening
- the flood gates, and allow anything anyone wants to
- model.
-------------------------------------------------------
Yes. I agree with you completely, Razor.
There are many important AI-only aircraft yet to become flyable.
Bombers, Fighter-bombers and Ground attack aircraft are especially important.
Ju-88, Hs-129, Bf-110/210/410, Pe-2/3, Tu-2, IL-4, SB
Obviously, all of the above are simply "must have".
XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 05:26 PM
Spitfires
XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 07:03 PM
Me 309
XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 07:04 PM
Hs 123
Fairey swordfish
all versions of spitfire
Ju 88
XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 07:10 PM
de Havilland Mosquito.
After ai planes are made flyable.
The idea is not to die for your country but to make the other b@$tard die for his. - General George S. Patton
XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 01:35 AM
The correct answer is: Pe-2/3.
Thank you for playing.
The Management
XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 05:12 AM
Pe-2
Tu-2
Ta-152
Hs-123
Bf110
Me-210/410
Il-4
B-17
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XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 02:47 PM
- Pe2/Pe3/Pe8
- Junker 88 A (and C variants)
More Junkers 87 Stuka variants, like D-5 with those SC1800s.. more bombs ! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
- FW-190 (meaing Better FW190, mostly meaning fixxed visibility )
- P-63
- Ta 152C/H
- Hs-123
- BF110
- Morko Morane
- Curtiss Hawk 75
- Fokker D.XXI
- Spitfires (MK. V and IX)
- HS-163
Most important here I consider FW-190 cockpit visibility to be fixxed, because It made me realize that TA-152 is going to suck with the present state FW-190 cockpit! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
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XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 03:45 PM
I'm looking forward flying the Ta 152H. However, if I could pick one fighter to be flyable, I'd pick the Ta 152C! Imagine an armament consisting of 1x30mm and 4x20mm cannons! Talk about firepower! Add to this a topspeed of about 750km/h! I'd like to see more variants of the Fw190D family aswell, preferably the D-11, D-12 and D-13!
The Spitfire will be a beautiful sight! I can't for the life of me understand why it wasn't added a looong time ago! Good thing we know it's on its way!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 05:43 PM
- Pe2/Pe3
- Junker 88 diffent variants
- Dornier 17, 215, 217
- DB3,
- Blenheim
- B-25 and A-20
- Hs-123
- Hs 129
- Il-10
- BF110
- He-112B
- He-115
- Spitfires (MK.I, V, IX and XIV)
- Ar 234
- Morko Morane
- Curtiss Hawk 75
- Fokker D.XXI
- late ju 87 Stuka
Gruß BR
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Message Edited on 07/09/0306:44PM by BlackRookie
XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:25 PM
Sukhoi Su-8.
Hey, at least it flew at all :>
4 x NS 45mm + 8 x 7.62-mm ShKAS would just be a party in every FW190 pilots pants.
XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:36 PM
All the non flyables that have models but no cockpits http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:21 PM
There so many flyable fighters and its now expanding to asia.
Wy in gods name not the russians bomber like the pe2/3 tu-2 , il4/db-3 , sb-3 etz etz and ahter bombers that have done there job on the eastfront?
give us flyable bombers that are olready as A.I. in game.
And expaind it wiht the one`s that have served on the eastfront.
Please please oleg bild tose cockpits first.
XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:26 PM
Me 110/210/410
Ju 88
Do 217E
Fw 187
Ar 240
He 100
He 177
Do 335
Fw 190A-6
Fw 190G-8
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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 02:02 AM
the PBN-6 flying plane is something i have wanted to fly in IL2 since i bought the first game
if this game doesnt get some floatable planes soon i am gonna go nuts...
also flying the Pe8 would be great
XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 06:02 AM
AAAAAHHH SO!
Imperial Japanese Naval Fighter ! Zero , and KI 84
Huy!
Russia declared War on Japan and went on the offensive against Japan.
You therefore have no hope of any labour time being assigned away from the Japanese fighters, they actualy belong in Forgotton Battles at a time when the Luftwaffe no longer existed, thats just history.
Message Edited on 07/11/0305:13AM by Artic_Wulf
XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 04:53 AM
Well, now that I have heard that Jippo is working on the Ju-88-series, I might have to put those at the top, and the Bf-110-series second. I may not have too much time for all the other new planes once these have been completed and added-on. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 05:41 AM
The Beech 18/C-45 Expeditor!
I flew cargo in that beautiful bird for two years.
Hawk
XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:06 AM
i would love to see a P-38 a P-51 (witch is comming) BF-110,B-17,HE-162A,and a spit would be nice but the P-38 would rock no 2 engin fighters in the sim yethttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:08 AM
hi,
in a short way...base should be the historic theatre of the
future addons...
some planes at eastfront are missed since IL2 came out...
Piaggio108
01-05-2004, 06:55 PM
I know it won't hapen, but I would love a Piaggio P-108. Not that it has anything to do with the eastern front. I Heinkel 219 with radar would also be nice.
WUAF_Badsight
01-06-2004, 02:31 AM
`
RE: What Planes are people waiting for to be flyable?
IL-10 , IL-10 , IL-10
IL-10 , IL-10 , IL-10
IL-10 , IL-10 , IL-10
IL-10 , IL-10 , IL-10
IL-10 , IL-10 , IL-10
269GA-Pag
01-06-2004, 04:44 AM
Since Spitfires, Tempests, P-38's are coming, it would be nice to fly
MC 200
MC 202
MC 205
G 55... or any other italian plane... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
cheers
Pag
Kahvikuppi
01-07-2004, 06:10 PM
My wishlist:
1) early war bi-planes
2) Ju-88 or Do 17
3) Fokker D.XXI
4) The damned Pe -bomber, any of the 2-engine machines
5) Please donâ´t laugh: Short Sunderland or JU-52, yes, "TANTE JU" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
koniygn
01-08-2004, 04:50 AM
To me, just want some multi-engine planes, no matter bombers or fighters, no matter single or two or multi seater, that will be fine. I honestly don't care about what exactly which plane I like to have, but please, do add some multi-engine fighters or bombers. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
bazzaah2
01-08-2004, 05:37 AM
mainly Pe2/3.
We're getting the Me163 and Go229 but not the Pe2? Strange we have one plane that was very fast but pathetically ineffective and another that managed a few test flights but we don't get one of the most important planes of the whole war? C'mon Oleg -we all love this game, but stay true to your original vision a bit longer!
Guess this ain't so much an eastern front sim anymore. Not a bad thing mebbe, but would like to be able to fly that beaut.
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Crashing online as :FI:SpinyNorman
VVS-Manuc
01-08-2004, 06:47 AM
Blohm + Voss BV 138
Blohm + Voss BV 141
WUAF_Badsight
01-08-2004, 07:40 PM
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what bazzaah2 said . . . .
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Bala_Mala
01-08-2004, 07:59 PM
He 162
Me 110
Arado 234
BigganD
01-09-2004, 12:23 AM
BF 110
Ju-88
No one is an ace!
zodicus1
01-09-2004, 03:44 AM
P-38
Bf-110
B-17
Lancaster
B-24
B-25
tempast
typhoon
P-63
also the late moldel Stukas that had retractable landing gear would be cool
and more ground atack A/C for Axsis stuka and He-111 just dont cut it
VVS-Manuc
01-09-2004, 03:58 AM
@zodicus
There were no Stukas with retractable landing gear. Only project for a modern "Ju 87" was the Ju 187, but it was never build
VVS-Manuc
01-09-2004, 03:59 AM
We need more big birds !
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/ju390.jpg
Junkers Ju 390, 2 prototypes were build and tested until the end of the war
jeanba2
01-09-2004, 04:17 AM
Spitfires
Typhoon
H75
Moranes
Ugly_Kid
01-09-2004, 06:30 AM
Paul Bolton Defiant:
http://freespace.virgin.net/pbratt.home/assets/cock1.JPG
With Oleg's historically correct reargunner this revolutionary fighter will own all DF servers...
[This message was edited by Ugly_Kid on Fri January 09 2004 at 05:54 AM.]
Capt_Haddock
01-10-2004, 05:16 AM
Gloster Gladiator, of course http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/haddock/sig/F19bannerh.jpg
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/haddock/sig/F19banner.jpg
VOL_Mountain
01-10-2004, 07:42 AM
Pe-2/3
SuomiPilotti
01-10-2004, 12:56 PM
B-17
Avro Lancaster
Handley Page Halifax
Fairey Swordfish(Torpedo bomber)
Ju-88
U-2
Ar-196-A3
Bf-110
Avenger
Please, make B-17 flyable as fast as you can.
thegoose001
01-10-2004, 09:33 PM
Gloster Gladiator
Supermarine Spitfire (all)
Polikarpov I-15
Morane-Sulnier MS406
Dewtoine D520
Early Mustangs (A, B, C models)
B17
B24
Pe-2/3
Henschel HS-123
Me/Bf109 A, B, C, D
thats about all i can think of right now
TheGoose
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thegoose001
01-10-2004, 09:35 PM
thought of another
VL Myrsky2
TheGoose
thegoose001@hotmail.com
Baltar
01-10-2004, 11:06 PM
Well, lessee....
B-17
Bf-110C-4 and C-4/B
Bf-110G-2
Fiat G.50
HS-129B-2
HS-129B-3/Wa (PLEASE!! I want the big gun!!)
Ju-88A (Drool...)
MC-202
Me-210Ca-1
Me-210Ca-1 Zerstorer
Morane MS.406
Morane MS.410
Pe-2
Pe-3
Pe-3bis
Pe-8
TU-2S
And, as a special request: the IL-10http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
JG53Hunter
01-12-2004, 06:50 AM
Bf110
Please make it flyable. Im waiting since the good old Sturmovik days for it. The Axis side needs some good groundattack planes.
Ju88 would be great too!
Thx
HansKnappstick
01-12-2004, 08:03 AM
PZL 37
PZL 24 <--Please please...
WereSnowleopard
04-30-2004, 09:21 AM
Bump to ask for Me-109F-4/B variant for RHAF and pray for third party modelers to do good job to release cockpit for Hs-129 and 75A to be flyable much soon.
lebobouba
04-30-2004, 09:43 AM
Ju88 ( Zestorer & torpedobomber types ) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
A20 Havoc http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
SM 79 ( Italian & romanian versions) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
Lancaster or Halifax http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
PZL 23 Karas http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
I 15bis http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
(and if it's possible , lots of ground & naval targets) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
Brain32
04-30-2004, 11:37 AM
TEMPEST
Lancaster
B25
B17
More versions of Ta152 and other German fighters http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
SuomiPilotti
04-30-2004, 03:13 PM
My "wishlist"... iâ´d like to see these flyable...
Lancaster
B-17
Short Sunderland
Fw-189
Arado Ar-196(especially that)
Ju-88
A5M
Aichi D3A Val
Kate
Snuffy_Hadden
04-30-2004, 04:14 PM
All the Heavies.
JimRockford
04-30-2004, 05:30 PM
The F4U Cosair, and the variant with working radar too.
REDtheWINGMAN
04-30-2004, 05:41 PM
LA-7R!!!
Bandit.426Cdn
04-30-2004, 10:52 PM
I am heavily bomber oriented, so thats where i'd like the developers/3rd party modellers to focus on. Give us bomb-whiners (and there is more than few of us out there, at least online) a representative from each side of the war in two and four engined configuration medium/heavyweight bombers, and we'll all be as happy as clams, i'd bet.
I see the dev. updates, and i *yawn*, more variants of existing models, and more models of somewhat obscure WWII fighter interceptors, but darn little promise of things to come for us Bomber plodders. I realize that for the modellers, a bomber is proportionally a much larger project to tackle when it comes to getting the interiors accurate, but as far as i am concerned, as long as the cockpit itself is reasonably accurate, the rest of the gun stations could be approximations -how much time do we, the live online pilots, actually spend manning the gun stations in defence of our plane, instead of the AI gunners taking care of business?- Certainly not enough time to make a Smithsonian Institute quality virtual reproduction, i'd venture.
Yes, it is a fighter oriented sim, by and large. However, with time and continuous development, the sim has become so much more versatile, and has attracted us Bomber plodders. IL2FB-AEP would be so much better and well-rounded, with a few choice full featured medium and heavy bombers on each side to play with, and try to shoot down, online.
VW-IceFire
05-02-2004, 07:52 AM
Still waiting for:
Spitfire Mark I
Spitfire Mark XIV
Tempest Mark V
Typhoon Mark IB
Me 410
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