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zardozid
09-08-2007, 12:24 PM
I was wondering if anyone knew of some good reading (explanation's) of the combat advantages of "power to wing area", "power to weight", and "weight to wing area" and how they work together. I think,I sort of have an understanding of some of these "basic" concepts, but I'm looking for a (more or less) "easy" read. I'm not an idiot (I have a basic idea of some physics concepts) but I'm looking for literature that's not too advanced...I want to "pull together" these concepts NOT send me out running around looking for another definition...

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carguy_
09-08-2007, 12:32 PM
Information of good use for altering the FM I gather.

zardozid
09-08-2007, 12:45 PM
Information of good use for <span class="ev_code_RED">altering</span> the FM I gather.


altering? me? no...


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carguy_
09-08-2007, 12:54 PM
I meant the info would help me in my research.

Skunk_438RCAF
09-08-2007, 01:14 PM
Taken from Hardball's aircraft viewer ReadMe file:

-These calculations will give you a very basic idea of how the aircraft may perform compared to another. For instance, "power-to-weight" ratio will give you an indication of the turn rate, climb rate, and acceleration A high power-to-weight ratio is "better".

"Weight-to-wing-area" ratio will give you an indication turn radius, climb rate, agility, and stall/landing speeds. A low weight-to-wing-area is "better"

"Power-to-wing-area" will give you a combination of the above two ratios. It will give you an indication of overall manoeuvrability if you keep in mind that manoeuvrability refers to combined horizontal, vertical and longitudinal (acceleration) agility. A high power-to- wing-area ratio is "better".

zardozid
09-08-2007, 01:23 PM
Taken from Hardball's aircraft viewer ReadMe file:

-These calculations will give you a very basic idea of how the aircraft may perform compared to another. For instance, "power-to-weight" ratio will give you an indication of the turn rate, climb rate, and acceleration A high power-to-weight ratio is "better".

"Weight-to-wing-area" ratio will give you an indication turn radius, climb rate, agility, and stall/landing speeds. A low weight-to-wing-area is "better"

"Power-to-wing-area" will give you a combination of the above two ratios. It will give you an indication of overall manoeuvrability if you keep in mind that manoeuvrability refers to combined horizontal, vertical and longitudinal (acceleration) agility. A high power-to- wing-area ratio is "better".


yes, but why? I'm looking for an explanation that is a "little" more comprehensive then that...
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I meant the info would help me in my research.


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Skunk_438RCAF
09-08-2007, 01:29 PM
Fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_loading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_loading

JG14_Josf
09-08-2007, 02:03 PM
I think,I sort of have an understanding of some of these "basic" concepts, but I'm looking for a (more or less) "easy" read. I'm not an idiot (I have a basic idea of some physics concepts) but I'm looking for literature that's not too advanced...I want to "pull together" these concepts NOT send me out running around looking for another definition...

Hi,

I am going to pass on a book that you can ignore because it doesn't appeal to you and it isn't what you think you are looking for due to your present state of ignorance.

Note: Ignorance is a fact everyone can know or ignore - get it?

Boyd (http://www.amazon.com/Boyd-Fighter-Pilot-Who-Changed/dp/0316881465)

If you don't read it, then, you can't feed back to me an intelligent appraisal of my suggestion.

Perhaps you read it already.

My suggestion is to read that book before diving into study concerning aerodynamic knowledge. Boyd did to aerodynamics what Einstein did to physics; it's a brave new world.

zardozid
09-08-2007, 04:35 PM
Hi,

I am going to pass on a book that you can ignore because it doesn't appeal to you and it isn't what you think you are looking for due to your present state of ignorance.

Note: Ignorance is a fact everyone can know or ignore - get it?

Boyd

If you don't read it, then, you can't feed back to me an intelligent appraisal of my suggestion.

Perhaps you read it already.

My suggestion is to read that book before diving into study concerning aerodynamic knowledge. Boyd did to aerodynamics what Einstein did to physics; it's a brave new world.



I'm not really sure why you think I would pass on the book...or why you think that it's not what I'm looking for, or why my lack of knowledge(self admitted) on the subject would lead me to excluding any reading material...I thought I made it clear I was asking for help on the subject.

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p.s. In the back of my head I (think I) remember hearing about this book, and I was hoping someone might post the name of the author...Thanks (even though you might have just insulted me in my ignorance)

JG14_Josf
09-08-2007, 09:12 PM
Zardozid,

You can do as you please. If you get the book and read it, then, please consider returning here and feeding back what you learn and if, or if not, the book answers some of your questions, or, points you in a direction worth traveling.

I'm curious.

zardozid
09-08-2007, 09:23 PM
Zardozid,

You can do as you please. If you get the book and read it, then, please consider returning here and feeding back what you learn and if, or if not, the book answers some of your questions, or, points you in a direction worth traveling.

I'm curious.


thanks...I'm looking into ordering it. I'll let you know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif