View Full Version : Why they called Grumman the "Iron Works"

10-24-2004, 07:53 PM

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10-24-2004, 08:22 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif VERY VERY VERY awsome!! i sure hope the hellcat in the game at least mirrors half that durabilaty. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. in that fighter you got 3 options out turn him.if you cant do that out run him and if that dosent work just let him shoot you untill he runns out of ammo then turn around and killm lol. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

10-25-2004, 01:34 AM
Now thats durability!

Actually have a book on my shelf "The Ironworks" about Grumman's aircraft.

Ruy Horta
10-25-2004, 01:57 AM
This feeling is conveyed very well in PF.

I've been testing mainly US Naval birds and when fighting the more nimble Japanese you'll hear the rattle of small cal. hits, but these seldom inflict any real damage. OTOH, if you get the .50 on a Japanese fighter it seldom lasts long.

Actually what you experience is very much like the Pacific gun cam footage we often see. The later Japanese army types are somewhat stronger though.

As a side comment I have to add that some of the new birds are very enjoyable to fly. The Wildcat and Corsairs are my favorite USN/MC types, but I also enjoy the early Warhawks and suprisingly the Ki-43!! The latter is a challenge, since its made of paper and has a bb-gun if you opt for the a or b-types.

10-25-2004, 02:56 AM
As always: dont forget that the virtual pilots fighting online are more (virtually) experienced than the average pilots in WW2.
So you will not very likely find 200 bullet-holes in your Hellcat-hull. But rather two well-aimed cannon-shells in the engine-compartement http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Firing from dead 6 o clock at the Hellcat in PF does little damage (with MG that is), but in high-angle/g - circumstances wings break and engines get killed.