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IVJG51_Animal
01-10-2006, 09:28 AM
I have finally determined that my new Syntax Olevia LCD is not compatible with IL2. See the link:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=2...691078693#1691078693 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=7471046693&r=1691078693#1691078693)

In a nutshell:

"I'M RETURNING IT, AGAIN!

The bottom line is that the Olevia (Syntax)will automatically stretch the screen, and not allow black bars when you try to view 4:3 AR in the VGA or DVI modes (computer). It will stretch the view, horizontally, to fit the 16:9 display, and there is no way to deactivate this automatic feature.

I can select a 16:9 resolution (1280X720), but because Oleg will only allow 4:3 AR in game, the view is cropped on top an bottom (as already discussed).

The bottom line is that with this 32 inch Syntax Olevia, I CANNOT get a full view, unstretched version in game. I'm either going to get a horizontally stretched full view, or a cropped unstretched view. Many of the competitors simply have an LCD on screen menu which allows this automatic stretching to be turned off, and gives you the black bars. The Oleveia DOES NOT have this option. It does for the TV modes, but not the computer modes. You'd think for $1,300 it would.

If you are going to use this display for IL2, I would not recommend it. If Oleg would allow us to use widescreen, it wouldn't be a problem, but it is.

Thanks for all the help guys,
Animal"

Does anyone recommend a 32inch LCD that does not have this issue? I'm looking at Samsung, Westinghouse.

S!!
Animal

dbillo
01-10-2006, 11:02 AM
I've read some of your posts on this, but may have missed one. Is there absolutely no way to run your Windows desktop in, say, 1280x960, using your ATI driver? (may have to be custom)

If that's the case, I understand your frustration. I would have thought any LCD panel, with monitor scaling turned off, would let you set a custom resolution as long as you don't exceed either the x or y of the native resolution.

IVJG51_Animal
01-10-2006, 12:08 PM
Regardless of the resolution you use, the Olevia will stretch to fill the screen. This is with full screen turned off in the ATI Catalyst video driver. The only way you can get a symetrical display (a circle looks round and not oval) is to use a 16:9 resolution (like 1280X720). Another issue is that Syntax states that the native resolution of this display is 1366X768, when it is really only 1280X1024 in the PC mode.

Other LCD's I have seen (my brother has a 37 inch Sharp Aquios), have an on screen menu which allows you to turn off the auto-stretch. The Olevia does not.

As a side note, this would not be an issue if Oleg would let us run in widescreen, like every other game/sim in the universe.

Animal

PS: target.com (through Amazom.com) is the vendor, and they stepped up to the plate by paying for shipping and everything. All I have to do is stick it back in the box, and they will pick up at my house.

Piniol306
01-10-2006, 12:21 PM
but because Oleg will only allow 4:3 AR in game
I think, it's possible to play different aspect ratio. Change in conf.ini line:
width=1280
height=1024
p.e. I use this resolution (my native LCD)

most important:
SaveAspect=0


look at this:
http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/config_guide.htm

TooCooL34
01-10-2006, 12:37 PM
I think you're missing something with config.
It's the world's first case of LCD failing to fit AR with IL-2.

IVJG51_Animal
01-10-2006, 01:44 PM
This is not a new issue. If you force the simulator, using the config file, to use a resolution that is not 4:3, you will lose some of your on the top and the bottom of the screen. Take screen shots using 1280X960(4:3)versus 1280X720(16:9). You will see that you lose almost 25% of you vertical view.

Here is a link to a great screen shot that demonstrates what I am trying to describe:

http://www.jg51.net/forums/viewthread.php?tid=2662

Basically, the sim forces whatever resolution you select to 4:3, and crops whatever is left over. Oleg will not support 16:9 widescreen as it is seen as a "cheat," even though most other sim/games provide widescreen support.

Animal