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Foo.bar
05-01-2006, 06:58 AM
Hi mates,
I plan to bring the LNER A4 class 4-6-2 streamline engine into TBoB, but i do not have enough adequate reference drawings.

Does anyone have chance to get me measured drawings/plans in front, rear, top and side views?

Please do not send photographs at all. I do have them all already http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


German forum original thread (http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3751020023/m/2181080123/r/9491053634#9491053634).

luftluuver
05-01-2006, 08:29 AM
maybe this place can help.

From The Locomotive Design Company, "Nyala", Scruton, Northallerton, Yorkshire DL7 0QZ :-
detailed drawings for the Locomotive designs by Chris Barron.
BR 9F "Evening Star"
BR 7P "Britannia"
BR Class 4 2-6-4T
BR Class 03 Diesel Shunter
SR West Country class 4-6-2 "Lyme Regis"
SR Schools class 4-4-0 "Downside"
LSWR M7 0-4-4T
GWR Castle class "Earl Bathurst"
GWR 14xx 0-4-2T
GWR 51xx 2-6-2T
LNER Class A1 4-6-2 "Kestrel"
LNER Class A4 4-6-2 "Mallard"
LNER Class K2 2-6-0
LNER Class P1 2-8-2
GNR Stirling 8ft Single No 33
GC Immingham Class 4-6-0
LMSR "Duchess of Montrose"
LNWR Precedent class "Hardwick"
LNWR 0-8-4 Tank Engine
CR No 903 "Cardean"
FR 4-6-4 Tank Engine
IOM Narrow gauge "Polar Bear" 2-4-0
In addition to the above locomotive designs, a number of plans are available for coaches, wagons and track arrangements. All these are intended for Gauge 3 'scenic' layouts.

Or

http://www.transportdiversions.com/publicationshow.asp?pubid=5166

major_setback
05-01-2006, 01:53 PM
Sorry, can't help. But bump, and thanks for all the hard work you've put into making models for BoB. I can't wait till it comes out.

I love this detailed train ferry of yours! :

http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3751020...241007734#9241007734 (http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3751020023/m/2181080123/r/9241007734#9241007734)

other view:

http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3751020...821026634#5821026634 (http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3751020023/m/2181080123/r/5821026634#5821026634)


...and thanks for the update!

erco415
05-01-2006, 03:14 PM
Bump, sorry I can't help either, but you'll be my hero forever if you sneak in a Pennsy E6 Atlantic (or the Morning Hiawatha), I can get you all the specs on those http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif. Your work is fantastic!

ploughman
05-01-2006, 03:21 PM
Sure, because that was in much evidence on the railways of Britain during 1940. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

On the otherhand, I do remember (not first hand ecperience of course) that the Yanks bought alot of locomotives with them to help bolster up logistics both in the UK and on the continet. What class/es where they?

Those are some seriously sweet train models. I wonder if those Mallards will actually be able to do 126mph on a slope?

VV_Holdenb
05-01-2006, 03:22 PM
Hi
May be worth dropping a message onto the forums
of this site.

http://www.uktrainsim.com/

They are a friendly bunch of "UK Train Heads"

luftluuver
05-01-2006, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by erco415:
Bump, sorry I can't help either, but you'll be my hero forever if you sneak in a Pennsy E6 Atlantic (or the Morning Hiawatha), I can get you all the specs on those http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif. Your work is fantastic! American locos to Europe

http://www.gregoriou.itgo.com/custom4.html

ElAurens
05-01-2006, 05:16 PM
Steam rules.

Be sure.

Make mine a NYC Streamlined J3A Hudson from the 20th. Century Limited...

http://www.nycshs.org/images/nyc-j3-4806.jpg

http://shop.com.edgesuite.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/220000/225900/225955/products/9220324.jpg

*Sigh*

Modern locomotives are so boring in comparison.

Foo.bar
05-02-2006, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by VV_Holdenb:
May be worth dropping a message onto the forums
of this site.

Thanks Holdenb, i did like you told me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif We'll see what they can do for me.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
05-02-2006, 04:36 AM
http://forums.auran.com/TRS2004/forum/default.htm

you may find some help here also?

Foo.bar
05-02-2006, 11:28 PM
Seems that there isn't any free stuff available out there...

Taylortony
05-03-2006, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Foo.bar:
Seems that there isn't any free stuff available out there...


Yep its a chuffing shame isn't it..

Think laterally my man, think Microsoft, think Microsoft Train Sim and think of their forums ..... go ask those people http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://forums.flightsim.com/ts/dcboard.php

http://www.uktrainsim.com/

http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-directory.php?form_st...d2959950f8534ae0c0ea (http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-directory.php?form_start=0&form_hide=on&form_country=54&form_sim=1&form_path=,ty=2&CUTHERE=768393b91990d2959950f8534ae0c0ea)

As you see this is an example it is a BR Standard Class 7, 4-6-2

and the file is available here to download including email addressses for the modeller, email him, he may well have a source of blueprints for you to usehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php?form_fileid=...d2959950f8534ae0c0ea (http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php?form_fileid=12594&CUTHERE=768393b91990d2959950f8534ae0c0ea)

The pic below is a LNER 4-6-2 A2 "Herringbone Express

http://www.uktrainsim.com/getthumbs/s/streeter/a2.jpg?

luftluuver
05-03-2006, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Foo.bar:
Seems that there isn't any free stuff available out there...

"Do not download illegal copy of FB/PF from the Internet! Support Maddox Games and pay your money!"

Pay your money and get what you are looking for if it is not available for 'free'.

Taylortony
05-03-2006, 11:26 AM
Also Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Locomotives-Illustrated-98-LNER-4...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Locomotives-Illustrated-98-LNER-4-6-2-4-4-4-Tanks_W0QQitemZ7026573317QQcategoryZ64804QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem)

this awesome one is the A3

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MODEL-RAILWAY-OO-SCALE-DRAWING-LN...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MODEL-RAILWAY-OO-SCALE-DRAWING-LNER-FLYING-SCOTSMAN_W0QQitemZ6055611070QQcategoryZ4978QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

but would you need the drawing not just upscale that picture to get the dimensions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3737801/1143739928888_SCOTSMAN_PRINT.jpg

Foo.bar
05-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Thanks mates, I finally found what I was searching for. And: I got it for free http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
@Taylortony http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif not A3 but A4 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif thanks anyway.

Taylortony
05-03-2006, 03:48 PM
I know but its only a paper size out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Foo.bar
05-05-2006, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
SThose are some seriously sweet train models. I wonder if those Mallards will actually be able to do 126mph on a slope?

The Mallard was seriously damaged after breaking Germany's existing speed record. And yes, it was done on a slope while the Germans (three years before) only wanted to go 200 km/h. It could go faster, but they didn't want to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

stathem
05-05-2006, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Foo.bar:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
SThose are some seriously sweet train models. I wonder if those Mallards will actually be able to do 126mph on a slope?

The Mallard was seriously damaged after breaking Germany's existing speed record. And yes, it was done on a slope while the Germans (three years before) only wanted to go 200 km/h. It could go faster, but they didn't want to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeahbutnobut, right, see, Gresley knew the Mallard could go quicker as well so... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Anyway, nice work FooBar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif. Do you know if there are any plans to do some Stannier locos as well?

JtD
05-05-2006, 07:24 AM
The Germans went 210 in 1903. So the Mallards record is to go slower with outdated technology. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Foo.bar
05-05-2006, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by stathem:
Anyway, nice work FooBar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif. Do you know if there are any plans to do some Stannier locos as well?

I don't know neither what have been done by MG nor what they plan. Normally I only do german railway stuff, but in the case of A4 I made an exception http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

luftluuver
05-05-2006, 07:36 AM
Downloadable Autocad drawings, http://steamcad.railfan.net/

UP BigBoy 4-8-8-4
BigBoy Front View
3d Drawing of Bigboy Valve Gear
SP #4294 CabForward 4-8-8-2
SP #4449 Daylight 4-8-4
UP FEF3 4-8-4
NYC 4-6-4 Hudson (Streamlined)
NYC 4-6-4 Hudson with Parts Breakout
NYC 4-6-4 Hudson with Dimensions
DRG K-36 2-8-2
Mikado 2-8-2
SP #2472 Pacific 4-6-2
SP #2479 Pacific - Engineer Side 4-6-2
SP #2479 Pacific - Fireman Side 4-6-2
#15 Class 60-3 Shay
NPC #21 CabForward 4-4-0
Vanderbilt Tender International Locomotives
1835 German Adler 2-2-2
1825 Locomotion 0-4-0 Grasshopper

Another source of drawings, http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/loco_draw.htm

Cheap drawings (4.00 Inc. Europe Postage) for the LNER A4 4-6-2 Pacific and some others,

stathem
05-05-2006, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Foo.bar:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Anyway, nice work FooBar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif. Do you know if there are any plans to do some Stannier locos as well?

I don't know neither what have been done by MG nor what they plan. Normally I only do german railway stuff, but in the case of A4 I made an exception http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok thanks, I understand. Just interested because my Dad used to fire (stoke) LMS locos during the war. He had the LMS man's 'distaste' for Gresley's machines http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Foo.bar
05-05-2006, 08:48 AM
Another source of drawings, http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/loco_draw.htm


Thanks! That was a very useful link tip to the coach cars.

erco415
05-05-2006, 09:52 AM
ElAurens said, "Make mine a NYC Streamlined J3A Hudson from the 20th. Century Limited..." I couldn't agree more, what a beautiful loco (and what a shame none were preserved)! It's always been my Dad's favorite, and he's a PRR guy. Me, on the other hand, I'll see your J's, and raise you some K's
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/ercos-hangar/ks.jpg

With her skirts on
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/ercos-hangar/k43768s_4x2.jpg

But I always liked her better undressed...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/ercos-hangar/k43673_4x2.jpg

And here's her little sister...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/ercos-hangar/e6.jpg

If we are to mention fast locomotives, we can't leave this one out,
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/ercos-hangar/fastloco-19.jpg
And here's the fastest one ever - Be Sure!
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i278/ercos-hangar/fastloco-08.jpg

ploughman
05-05-2006, 02:49 PM
That last one is one awesome looking machine.

erco415
05-06-2006, 11:36 AM
Yeah, it is. What did the ultimate (we called it superpower over here) steam look like in the UK? I've only ever seen a few Brit locos, and those were museum pieces.

major_setback
05-06-2006, 02:55 PM
For all you steam enthusiasts! I took this picture at the Severn Valley Railway. I must have taken it in 1995 because there were celebrations to mark the anniversary of the end of the war. You can see sandbags at the station which was altered to look as if it was wartime, with tape across the glass windows etc.

Sorry I don't know what engine this is.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/CNV00010kopia1.jpg

luftluuver
05-06-2006, 10:16 PM
Another photo of 80079

http://www.xdinet.demon.co.uk/rail/pics2/80079c.jpg

It is a Class 4MT 2-6-4T. Designed at Brighton.

What it look like dismantled,
http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/mainindx/uk/indx/standard/svr/svr2/svrp2-2.htm

http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/mainindx/uk/indx/standard/svr/svr2/svrp2-2.htm

erco415
05-07-2006, 08:33 AM
Great Pics! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Man, I gotta visit England!

luftluuver
05-07-2006, 08:59 AM
This is what one can call a real locomotive

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/1114844/up_4019.jpg

JtD
05-07-2006, 12:29 PM
What a Big Boy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Insane.

I think it looks better here:

http://webpages.charter.net/4-8-8-4bigboy/bigboy.jpg

luftluuver
05-07-2006, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by JtD:
What a Big Boy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Insane.

I think it looks better here: Thought about that one but decided not to. Is not PC with all that polution. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ElAurens
05-07-2006, 06:36 PM
That much smoke comes from the engineer hamming it up for the photographer.

In service the crew would get called on the carpet for a wasteful display like that. While never smoke free, modern steam locos never made that much smoke in day to day service.

Taylortony
05-07-2006, 08:35 PM
This is near me ( 15 miles)

http://www.gcrailway.co.uk/

click on the more link http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

When I was doing my RAF basic training in the summer 1976 I used to wander among these........ what a sight it was http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif Never took any photos and have regretted it ever since...... But it was stunning to see them all their dying slowly........... thankfully the owners forsight saw many of the preserved trains we have to day rescued from this ignomious end.

http://www.penmorfa.com/Barry/overallc.jpg

http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/barry1.htm

http://www.steamtraingalleries.co.uk/barry_island.html

http://www.garry-brookes.com/id65.htm

http://www.hurstmereclose.freeserve.co.uk/html/woodham_bros..html

http://www.penmorfa.com/Barry/index.htm

http://philtpics.fotopic.net/c216184.html