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LeadSpitter_
05-16-2005, 12:55 AM
Saitek Cyborg Gold usb.

Post Pictures

http://www.saitek.ru/other/CyborgGold3D/Itog_Big/010.jpg

Pirschjaeger
05-16-2005, 01:47 AM
Sorry L-Spitter, no pics to post. But I used to use the x45 and 3D Gold together. Generally I find the 3D Gold to be good but I keep snapping the triggers off. So, I've had quite a few #d Golds.

I was using the X45 throttle only. To be honest the X45 is **** and made for smaller hands. With the stick, my hand barely fit inside the guard. As for the throttle, totally, totally stupid design in regards to the rudder controls. Impossible to use. It was more like using the "x" and "z" keys. Theres absolutely no room for four fingers.

So I combined the X45 with the 3D Gold and found it to be ok, The 3D Gold is great for anyone with bigger than average hands. The X45 sat behind the monitor, out of sight and where it belongs.

Now, I have a 3D Gold and and Evo. The 3D Gold is my parts department since I broke the "twisty" just a month after it was new. It seems I twisted it too far and the "z" axis doesn't work well anymore.

The Evo seems to be much better with acception to the lower buttons. You just can't reach bothsides. If you are right handed you can only reach the left buttons. The upper buttons above your hand are nice and fully adjustable. The only problem is I can see I will break the top off very quickly.

If you are satisfied with the 3D Gold I'm sure you'll like the Evo better. It works basically the same as the 3D Gold but has a few more options.

In the future I plan to make my own stick all with easily replacable parts, and it's something I won't break so easily. It will be made completely of metal and have guards that protect it from being broken due to a little force. Plastic sucks bigtime and breaks so easily. The manufacturers have to realize it's not just children flying.

Fritz

JamesBlonde888
05-16-2005, 01:54 AM
I have a Logitech extreme 3D pro. Nice but the throttle is far too small and in a stupid place and I accidentaly fire the cannons all the time...lol

F19_Olli72
05-16-2005, 01:56 AM
Borrowed, old, and i dont really like force feedback so i have that disabled.....but works for me:
http://www.clubic.com/photo/00027516.jpg

BenvZijl
05-16-2005, 02:05 AM
CH fighterstick, with CH pro throttle and pro pedals

madsarmy
05-16-2005, 02:12 AM
MS FFB2 + CH Pro Throttle. Pedals to come in the near future.

tigertalon
05-16-2005, 02:29 AM
Have it for more than 7 years now, still works like new:

http://www.yopi.de/images/prod_pics/135/e/135222.jpg

Capt.LoneRanger
05-16-2005, 02:31 AM
http://www.usn.ru/upload/catalog/a/b/12707000_b.jpg

Grue_
05-16-2005, 04:55 AM
CH Fighterstick USB
CH Rudder Pedals
X45 (Throttle only)
TrackIR3 Pro

If only I could persuade all of these expensive gadgets to shoot something down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/flyingscampi/chfsusb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/flyingscampi/propedalsusb.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/flyingscampi/x45pair.jpg

pacettid
05-16-2005, 05:03 AM
TrackIR 3 Pro
MS FFB2
CH Throttle
CH Rudder pedals

PBNA-Boosher
05-16-2005, 05:04 AM
Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2!

http://www.insidemacgames.com/images/precision2_001_s.gif

249th_Maico
05-16-2005, 05:06 AM
Sorry no pics here. Its taken me years to build this setup. I have a "Frankensteined" number pad I use only for Lock On.

arcadeace
05-16-2005, 05:11 AM
the Evo... its cheap http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and does the job, tho I agree with Pirschjaeger the buttons are hard to reach on the opposite side, and one hand always has to keep it secure.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Steevo37/Picture2.jpg

WOLFMondo
05-16-2005, 05:12 AM
CH Fighter stick+Ch pro pedals.

Had them a month, very nice but theres quite a learning curve after using a twist stick for as long as I can remember.

Atomic_Marten
05-16-2005, 05:13 AM
Cyborg EVO. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I believe they made those buttons on (right) side for left-handed people. They are somewhat hard to use for me (being the right handed).

arcadeace
05-16-2005, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Atomic_Marten:
Cyborg EVO. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I believe they made those buttons on (right) side for left-handed people. They are somewhat hard to use for me (being the right handed).

You mean they made the buttons on the left side for right-handed people http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bearcat99
05-16-2005, 06:19 AM
MSFFB2
X-45
CH rudder pedals
TIR 2
VAC
Logitech USB Headphones

TgD Thunderbolt56
05-16-2005, 06:25 AM
Hey Leadspitter...I thought you knew that making the picture bigger doesn't make the "stick" bigger. Now I tend to agree with some of the others...you got issues bruh.


(JK... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif )I use CH Flightstick Pro, Pro Throttle, Pro Pedals and TrackIR 3 Pro w/vector expansion device.


TB

Monty_Thrud
05-16-2005, 06:27 AM
I'm on my fourth Cyborg...great stick, only time i've had trouble with them, is after a mate had got over enthusiastic with the cannon button which was on the left side button and bust the supporting bracket, tilting it all to one side...so the next one i bought, i shifted it to the centre button...now it feels right.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/bsamania//Cyborg3DII.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/bsamania//Roadrunner8.gif

JG7_SITH
05-16-2005, 07:28 AM
FF is a must for me so its MS FF 2 + X45 Throttle.

Lead is that Cyborge FF ?? I almost bought that awhile back .

Tallyho1961
05-16-2005, 07:35 AM
Saitek X45 and TIR3 Pro.

It took me a while to get accustomed to the X45, but now I love it. I know many don't like the rudder rocker - I hated it at first - but I've found that time and effort did the trick - now it's instinctive.

Because I can't stand the blue 'space age' top decks on the X45 gear, I covered them with black adhesive paper. It took a bit of effort to make accurate templates, but it was well worth it. Now I don't feel like a kid flying a space ship when I'm sitting in a P-40.

Before flying I install a masonite board with non-slip backing and velcro strips for holding the gear in front of my keyboard. The masonite board serves the dual purpose of holding small inserts which display information about my profile.

I rarely need to look at the inserts now because I finally have the profile the way I like it, but when I haven't flown in a while they can come in handy.

I've posted the inserts here in case any X45ers are interested.

X45 Joystick (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/spacomm/X45Joystick.jpg)

If you want to understand the throttle maps, put your left hand on your X45 throttle, look at the map and I think you'll get the idea - it's probably not obvious at first glance.

X45 Throttle M1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/spacomm/X45ThrottleM1.jpg)

X45 Throttle M3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/spacomm/X45ThrottleM3.jpg) (the duplicate lower gear/raise gear commands, which are mapped to the small 8-way switch are for manual operation - Wildcat, I-16 or damaged controls on other a/c)

X45 General Setup (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/spacomm/X45GeneralSetup.jpg)

Grisha7
05-16-2005, 07:41 AM
Trustmaster Afterburner II, nothing too flash but it does the job. Just got myself TIR 3 which has totally changed the game for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LEBillfish
05-16-2005, 07:41 AM
Flight Control-Integrated System-PC (http://www.elfmovie.com/swf/etchasketch/)

GuNzABlaZiN
05-16-2005, 09:46 AM
MS Sidewinder Precision 2.

TAGERT.
05-16-2005, 09:50 AM
http://www.clubic.com/photo/00027516.jpg
http://www.sh-squadron.de/img-gal/trackir.jpg
http://www.maximum3d.com/images/prothrottle/Image1.jpg
http://www.pcaviator.com/shop/resource/images/products/CH-TQUssLarge1418.jpg
http://charlestonarea.com/chproductsreview/Pro_Pedals_Top_Measured.jpg

TooCooL34
05-16-2005, 11:12 AM
MS FFB2
CH Pro Throttle
CH Pro Pedals
TrackIR2

Best way to go.

VR__TUVOK
05-16-2005, 11:44 AM
X52 plus trackIR2,
the 52 is a good stick for bombing, lots of commands ready to hand!

gombal40
05-16-2005, 12:55 PM
http://www.graphic-violence.com/gv1/images_gv/products/tn_sh_kongo.jpg

han freak solo
05-16-2005, 01:31 PM
Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 and TrackIr 2.

Although I am thinking of getting that Atari stick with the Ape head on it!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

NetDaemon
05-16-2005, 02:00 PM
Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Pro:
http://www.sunstorm.com/ceo/reviews/3dpro-1.gif


Bought it in 1994 bundled with MechWarrior 2 for DOS!!!

11 years old and still going strong, for example last Friday in VFC Coop Nite(tm) helped me shoot down 3 yanks: a Corsair, a Hellcat and a FM-2 in my trusty Zero and brought me home in one piece even with a bullet filled right wing.

Gotta love this joystick.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Clan_Graham
05-16-2005, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Saitek Cyborg Gold usb.

Post Pictures

http://www.saitek.ru/other/CyborgGold3D/Itog_Big/010.jpg


I use the same stick LeadSpitter. (except I have the head tilted to the left)
Best stick I have ever had.
I love the way you can customize it to fit your hand.
I bought a second one that sits in the closet as a back-up in case my current one breaks.

F19_Orheim
05-16-2005, 03:06 PM
Saitek X45
CH Pro USB Rudders
TIR 1

JG54_Arnie
05-17-2005, 12:32 AM
Cyborg 3D platinum, same as Leadspitters, but then ahm... platinum. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great stick indeed, allows for great manouvres, compared to my old cheap stick (Thrustmaster Top Gun pro) its so much more reliable in movements.
I use it in combination with pedals from my racing wheel. I love it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Ankanor
05-17-2005, 01:11 AM
Logitech Freedom 2.4 Cordless, a low armchair and a lot of imagination http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



Tagert,Oh the humanity!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

carbide1974
05-17-2005, 01:50 AM
X-45 I Zip Tied the spring on the Stick to make it more smooth on small inputs

dieg777
05-17-2005, 02:26 AM
saitek x-45
track ir3

Tallyhos comments echo what I have found with x-45- took a while to get profile and used to rudder switch but now feels excellent.
btw - I recommend crazyivans profile for this stick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Also it improved with a little candle wax on the shaft to smooth out spring resistance.

Both recently bought - used to have a thrustmaster firefox before and that was a nice stick
First stick I bought was a microsoft 3d pro and that was excellent ah- first love http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif should have never two timed her for a flashier rival -
netdaemons lucky his still works but I got rid of it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif when it started acting up with my motherboard.

JG52_Helgstrand
05-17-2005, 04:58 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Helgstrand/JoyStick.jpg

robban75
05-17-2005, 02:47 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Logitech Extreme 3D PRO. A good joystick IMO.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009OY9U.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Billy_BigBoy
05-18-2005, 04:51 AM
Since about 2 years I use the X-45.
Pretty fancy hotas, but you have to learn to play the piano first http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

spitzfiya
05-18-2005, 11:12 AM
Logitech Extreme 3D Pro

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009OY9U.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

It's allright i guess

LEBillfish
05-18-2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by robban75:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Logitech Extreme 3D PRO. A good joystick IMO.


Have flown with the same MS SW PP optical since 99...My most recent attempt at tightening it up killed it....So when looking at new sticks considered all that had a "Twist" function including the Saitek X52.....

Money is not an issue......Bought the Logitech Ext. 3d Pro....

Feels firm, solid, like the centering design much more then the Saitek's....Only thing I need to do to it is grind off that lower hand rest as I don't use the buttons or hat it uncomfortable to reach with my hands being so small, so I grip it by the base.

Now I have heard they wear out fast.....For $35, I'll have no problem replacing it every 6 months. But I'm betting it will outlast most of the more complex sticks.

The Saiteks felt flimsy to me.

AWL_Spinner
05-18-2005, 11:30 AM
CH Flightstick Pro
CH Pro Pedals
TrackIR 1
MS Optical Mouse / MS Natural keyboard
Cheapo headset with boom mic

All plugged into an Athlon 2400/1Gb PC2700/Radeon 9600 Pro sat in a Coolermaster aluminium box.

FoolTrottel
05-18-2005, 03:23 PM
Here's the Fool once more, supporting DIY!

Guillemot FFB
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/GuillemotFFB.jpg
Homebuilt controls
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/Controls.jpg
Homebuilt pedals
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/Rudder1a.jpg
And this for TrackIR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/GlassesTIR.jpg

Have Fun!

[Gypsy]
05-18-2005, 03:31 PM
CH Combat Stick;
CH Pro Throttle;
CH Pro Pedals;
TIR2;
for the last two years...

Still can't hit nuttin' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Fliegeroffizier
05-18-2005, 03:44 PM
Logitech Wingman Strike Force 3D (with forcefeedback and twist stick rudder control))

Great stick in my opinion, although most folks who visit this forum seem Not to like Logitech.
http://members.cox.net/fliegeroffizier/LogJoystick.jpg

I program the four positions of Each of the Two POV tophats to unique functions(total of Eight)....as a result, I can control Eleven separate functions with Just my Thumb! Among other vital 'thumb'-functions is trim control, making it very simple to almostconstantly adjust trim without even thinking about it.

The five buttons on the base (three distinct positions of the scroll wheel plus two standalone buttons) plus the finger trigger results in a total of Seventeen functions!

Keyboard keys are needed only for the rarely used functions, such as lowering gear and tailhook, opening closing radiator, opening canopy,etc...

Logitech sticks DO have a reputation for breaking, so I purchased two additional ones as backups, just in case. $20 each on Ebay.

F0_Dark_P
05-18-2005, 04:12 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Nahoj/logitech-freedom.jpg

Freedom 2.4, it sucks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif eats batterys like a hungry pig and it looses contact sometimes, have killed me many times, but other than taht it is good, nice quality buttons in steel etc, but i like to buy a CH stick when i am rich

DarkBlueMan
05-18-2005, 06:56 PM
Like a few here I used the Saitek 3D Gold USB (2 years). The next step for me was to get the same stick but with FFB. Well, they never made such a stick but the Evo force is very, very close in design. For me it handles almost exactly the same apart from the FFB (obviously) and the spring on the rudder is a lot tighter. Requires more force to twist. I wish I could lessen this, but I dare not invalidate my warranty.

I still have my Saitek 3D Gold for backup purposes.

TAGERT.
05-18-2005, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by FoolTrottel:
Here's the Fool once more, supporting DIY!

Guillemot FFB
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/GuillemotFFB.jpg
Hey.. how do you like that GuillemotFFB? Have you ever tried the MS FFB? If so, how do they compare?

Old_Canuck
05-19-2005, 12:15 AM
CH Combat Stick
CH Pro Rudder pedals (USB)
TIR 1 with infrared emitter
Plantronics headset (USB)
wireless intelli-eye mouse and wireless keyboard

Having lots of fun but not exactly a born killer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Freelancer-1
05-19-2005, 12:25 AM
Sorry no picture.

I mostly fly with the big hunk of grey stuff between my ears. It's the only input device that really counts. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

FoolTrottel
05-19-2005, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by TAGERT.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FoolTrottel:
Here's the Fool once more, supporting DIY!

Guillemot FFB
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/GuillemotFFB.jpg
Hey.. how do you like that GuillemotFFB? Have you ever tried the MS FFB? If so, how do they compare? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I do like the Guillemot very much ... but I've never had an MS FFB, so sorry, can't compare 'm!

The Guillemot is nice and heavy, steady. The stick itself feels good, nice forces, you can distinguish the 'heavy-on-the-stick' effects really good. It's got no springs inside, spring forces are all created by using the motors (Dunno, but guess that goes for all FFB - sticks?)

Only problem with it is it's old drivers, (can't find recent ones) as, well, sometimes it starts vibrating like crazy .... that will stop shortly after it started ... a bit annoying but not too bad.

Good thing is, I've recently got me another one for 25 EUR, as a spare!

Have Fun!