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Tully__
08-01-2003, 11:22 AM
Targ wrote (very sensibly):

"S!
No one knows for certain what is going on but here goes.
It is a strong possibility that Jiri is on vacation right now and is unable to reply. So do not be to concerned if he does not reply.
Also, it was pointed out to me that Jiri always uses the pager to send important messages to every user of hyperlobby, like a new version. He did not this time so this is odd.
Good friends of Jiri know nothing about this, also odd.
Until he reply's for certain I would not get to upset.
I would not go burn all of your UBI games until after the 4th (you may regret it).
The people who know him well are finding out for sure and will have an answer soon, unless he is on vacation than we will find out on the 4th."



I am going to lock all speculative threads on the topic until we have hard evidence one way or the other. Any new threads on the topic other than this will be deleted.


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Message Edited on 08/01/0308:24PM by Tully__

Tully__
08-01-2003, 11:22 AM
Targ wrote (very sensibly):

"S!
No one knows for certain what is going on but here goes.
It is a strong possibility that Jiri is on vacation right now and is unable to reply. So do not be to concerned if he does not reply.
Also, it was pointed out to me that Jiri always uses the pager to send important messages to every user of hyperlobby, like a new version. He did not this time so this is odd.
Good friends of Jiri know nothing about this, also odd.
Until he reply's for certain I would not get to upset.
I would not go burn all of your UBI games until after the 4th (you may regret it).
The people who know him well are finding out for sure and will have an answer soon, unless he is on vacation than we will find out on the 4th."



I am going to lock all speculative threads on the topic until we have hard evidence one way or the other. Any new threads on the topic other than this will be deleted.


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Message Edited on 08/01/0308:24PM by Tully__

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 11:24 AM
meaning?

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 11:25 AM
I know.

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08-01-2003, 11:25 AM
And sorry about the no text thing, fat finger syndrome /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Tully

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 11:56 AM
Thanks Tully, some sense at last.

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cartrix
08-01-2003, 12:05 PM
I have also contacted Jiri to get the facts on this.

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 12:06 PM
cartrix wrote:
- I have also contacted Jiri to get the facts on this.


Nice to see your still around! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif



Cheers,

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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 12:22 PM
nice to see that ubi is interested in this as well, cartrix.

I'm a crappy pilot, but one hell of a shot.

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 12:36 PM
This will really help until things are clear. That was the best you could do :-)
Thanks Tully!

P.S. Not that these first reactions of people shouldn't be done, but now after we said what we thought it's time to wait and learn the truth. We've surely made our point last night ;-)

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08-01-2003, 01:14 PM
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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 01:33 PM
Hi Tully and Ubi, This is the best thread I have read.
You might know me as Gunny at the HL and at the forums.
Just wait off as he has mentioned nothing about this to me even after messaging me that very same day.(3:40 am messaged me about bug fixes and the sad post at 20:42pm)
Poor guy probably cant open any of his emails because of the spam I bet he is getting.
He is a busy person and does not check the site everyday thats why I help out there so much.
The sky is not falling until he confirms it via email,icq or at another public message board where he is well knowen.

Gunny.

Tully__
08-01-2003, 01:40 PM
Vickers_Gunbus wrote:
- Hi Tully and Ubi, This is the best thread I have
- read.
- You might know me as Gunny at the HL and at the
- forums.
- Just wait off as he has mentioned nothing about this
- to me even after messaging me that very same
- day.(3:40 am messaged me about bug fixes and the sad
- post at 20:42pm)
- Poor guy probably cant open any of his emails
- because of the spam I bet he is getting.
- He is a busy person and does not check the site
- everyday thats why I help out there so much.
- The sky is not falling until he confirms it via
- email,icq or at another public message board where
- he is well knowen.
-
- Gunny.
-
-



Thanx very much for that Gunny, S!

This is reliable information.

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Tully

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 01:40 PM
You are so strict Tully...meanwhile love it.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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08-01-2003, 01:43 PM
Thanks Tully and Ubi .


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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 01:45 PM
yeah yeah everybody loves Tully /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
He's yer favorite mod, right. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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BlitzPig_Rock
08-01-2003, 01:47 PM
Vengeanze wrote:
- yeah yeah everybody loves Tully /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
- He's yer favorite mod, right. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Hes my favourite too /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif


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Tully__
08-01-2003, 01:58 PM
Vengeanze wrote:
- yeah yeah everybody loves Tully /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
- He's yer favorite mod, right.


Ven, you're MY favourite mod /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 02:00 PM
Everyone who blamed UBI should apologize

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Zayets
08-01-2003, 02:01 PM
3 mods in the same thread each one congrating the other!
That's to much for me , I'll go for a coffee and cig! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Seriously , good to see that you guyz are lurking 'round.


Zayets out

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 02:11 PM
Zayets wrote:
- 3 mods in the same thread each one congrating the
- other!
- That's to much for me , I'll go for a coffee and
- cig! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
- Seriously , good to see that you guyz are lurking
- 'round.
-
-
- Zayets out

These are the big days of the summer-hole /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif we will remember for ever : patch+closing HL+nervs=too much fromular...enjoy your cig&coffee


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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 03:13 PM
Tully, Cartrix, Ubi and all,

Thanks for a sensible update on the Hyperlobby issue. If Hyperlobby is shutting down, could Ubi pick it up to preserve the competitive competitions like VEF, VOW, etc? To me, Hyperlobby complements Ubi's great games. I would hate to see the concept go away even if Jiri no longer wants to put in the time and effort that must be required to keep the service running.

Thanks again for the rumor control. I appreciate it!

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 03:18 PM
Oh lordy, a Mods' menage-a-trois.

Just feel the lurve everybody!

I feel queasy now!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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BlitzPig_Rock
08-01-2003, 03:20 PM
commie1 wrote:
- Oh lordy, a Mods' menage-a-trois.
-
- Just feel the lurve everybody!
-
- I feel queasy now


I told you not to eat that biscuit !!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif


Can I say that ?



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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 03:24 PM
BlitzPig_Rock wrote:
- I told you not to eat that biscuit !!!


Rock, I never touch your jaffa cakes, you know, the ones with the 'special filling', on principle.

I'm too canny for that!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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08-01-2003, 03:27 PM
commie1 wrote:
- BlitzPig_Rock wrote:
-- I told you not to eat that biscuit !!!
-
-
- Rock, I never touch your jaffa cakes, you know, the
- ones with the 'special filling', on principle.
-
- I'm too canny for that!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif



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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 03:36 PM
Vickers_Gunbus wrote:
- Hi Tully and Ubi, This is the best thread I have
- read.
- You might know me as Gunny at the HL and at the
- forums.
. . . . . .
- Poor guy probably cant open any of his emails
- because of the spam I bet he is getting.
- He is a busy person and does not check the site
- everyday thats why I help out there so much


Thank you for telling us what you know so far, mate. I am very optimistic that all will be well, whatever the truth may be. Thanks to Jiri, and all who have helped him for the greatest online gaming lobby ever created.
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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 03:49 PM
Ubi would have to really pick up the pace to cope with a large influx of new players. As it is, they often "disable chat to preserve bandwidth". I really believe however that the hyper shutdown will prove to be "hyper" bullflop, and I don't mean that that to denegrate Hyperlobby, something about all this just doesn't ring true. Time will tell...
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BlitzPig_Rock
08-01-2003, 04:15 PM
radkiller wrote:
Time will tell...


Yup - hopefully as soon as possible /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 04:20 PM
I said this at HL last night, i`ll say it again. The way it was written with such a bad grammar and spelling errors makes me think that it was a bad impersonation of Jiri. I know the guy, been with him on coms and exchanged e-mail, back in my JG27 days...his english is far from being that bad. I say it`s a hack. Needless to say that my good friends including Aristo are completely unaware. And those guys can control HL Server, meaning they are partially involved. I am sure that if Jiri would have something like this in mind, those guys would know.
Just my02c

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Tully__
08-01-2003, 04:22 PM
Remember that we're not speculating here, we're waiting for further news /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 05:02 PM
Yes, lot of speculation arround HL closing.
We have to wait.

If HL close, we have to ask Jiri the true reasons. We cant
start blaming UBI. And remember, this is a UBI forum, so
not the right place to speak against UBI.

Instead of blaming, we can do some contructive: for example
recomend UBI to change his lobby. Hundred of feaople (HL users)
confirms every day that they prefer HL to the UBI lobby.
-This is a fact-

Is impossible to get into Ubi lobby and join a coop or a
dog in 4 mouse clicks like we do in HL. Or swich from coop/dog
with 1 mouse click.
-This is a fact 2-

And if HL goes down /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif soon another "easy to use" lobby will pop-up
and the comunity will decide where to go: To the place they
are more confortable.
-This "will" be a fact- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

So if HL is closing, is a great chance from UBI to fix some
lobby things. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

S! Dut.

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 05:38 PM
good post tully as soon as we hear something from jiri the community will know right then.
S! Aristo

Tully__
08-01-2003, 05:40 PM
Thank you Aristo for dropping by and letting us know /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 05:42 PM
If Hyperloby closes ill eat my hat... its a Ten gallon hat so ill need lots a BBQ sauce...

PS Mods

In the post I made earlier in another thred I was simply quoting a post from H/L forums about the quote unquote Hacker

Thought that would set all this nonsence to rest but you see it your way

HYPERLOBY IS NOT CLOSING !!!

if you dont belive me go too H/L forums

If it was closing the entire place would be on fire
& there would be a Post from Jiri & everyone would be begging him not too close it

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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 07:10 PM
Gents !

here is hope: I/JG27_Zimmi - a squad mate of Jiri's - states in a posting in the VOW forums:

"Jiri will not close the server, it was a hack"


http://www.vow-hq.com/index.php?page=forum&action=topic&id=1555&start=20

Let us take a deep breath, and wait for the "official" thing.

Cheers
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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 07:32 PM
hey.

one more form SimHQ boards.
Posted by Lord Darth Vader:

BTW i got this message
from a person close to jiri

"Hello All

The problem begin with a friendly warning from my ISP about running a daemons in their servers. We exchange some emails and made an acceptable agreement. So, inferno for hyperlobby players will not happen in near future, and the HL server will continue in flight operations

See you in the lobby

Jiri"

http://oldsite.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=98;t=002441

pleeeeaaaaase !

Cheers
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fluke39
08-01-2003, 07:43 PM
JG10r_Dutertre wrote:
-
- Instead of blaming, we can do some contructive: for
- example
- recomend UBI to change his lobby. Hundred of feaople
- (HL users)
- confirms every day that they prefer HL to the UBI
- lobby.
--This is a fact-


yes i agree wholeheartedly with this - there is no doubt the overwhelming majority prefer HL to UBI. However...

- Is impossible to get into Ubi lobby and join a coop
- or a
- dog in 4 mouse clicks like we do in HL. Or swich
- from coop/dog
- with 1 mouse click.
--This is a fact 2-
-- S! Dut.

now this i'm not so sure 4 clicks hmm... for me .. now let me see...

1 click on UBI icon to launch
1 click to confirm user name and password
1 click on the Forgotten Battles section ( as opposed to other ubi games il2 , Rainbow 6 etc.)
1 click to select co-op or dogfight
you are now in dogfight(or co-op) lobby and are free to browse all game names /settings players etc.
if you consider the click to get into your selected game then thats another.

OK so 4 to lobby 5 at most for a game- but obviously i don't think thats the issue - i doubt hundreds of FB /sim pilots chose HL as the could access in 4 clicks instead of 5 - if that was your point then it's pretty trivial to base an argument around it.
What i think you meant is that youv'e had problems with UBI in the past. Now i cannot profess to know anything about HL as i've not yet played there - what i do know is that since i installed UBI - (when FB came out) i have not had 1 single problem with it and entering a game is even easier than reading the description above of how to do it.
i suppose the crux of my argument is that(please note i am NOT saying ANYTHING about the quality of hyperlobby) people should think twice or at least should have tried UBI in the last 2 months before stating that it is a FACT it is screwed up or difficult to access. OK so it may be a bit screwed for some, but then maybe hyperlobby is for some ( hardware or software incompatiblities or whatever) - but if it is only for some then it is not a all encompassing fact that it is screwed.

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XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 09:13 PM
LOL


In HL with only ONE click you are ready to brownse
games. (using auto conect)

But you are right is not a matter of clicks. The matter is
about the time to log in, the way the coops/dogs are organized. The chat.the friend list, and more...

AND:

-There is no online campaings on ubi.
-The nick names are very limited.
-If you have a local network, you have to setup the connection from il2:setup to join a game.

and many other things...

Only thing i find nice is the filter thing, all the
other is just to drop.

But is only my opinion, ask other 499 HL users and the
bad isues list of UBI will grow http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


UBI staff is blind, or just they like this way: give a
"oficial lobby" and dont care if is good or bad.
Less people in their lobby is less work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 09:14 PM
I have an email from Jiri confirming that all is ok now.
What a day! Thankyou again Tully for bringing some order to the kaos.
Gunny.

XyZspineZyX
08-01-2003, 09:26 PM
And ICQ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-02-2003, 12:18 AM
I am glad the rumormongers were wrong (well, those that advanced the idea that some underhanded legal maneuvering by Ubi or others had caused the crisis)! HyperLobby continues! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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