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Choctaw111
12-26-2006, 07:15 AM
This is a manual for a B29. I also posted this in the "Rarest warbirds parts" thread. My maternal grandfather was a waist gunner on a B29 who flew out of Guam in the 20th AF during WW2 and I have many things from him. This manual goes into many details on the maintenance, service and operation of the gun turrets, the computers and the sights. It is a very good read and was classified material back then. Here are a few photos. Enjoy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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RCAF_Irish_403
12-26-2006, 07:24 AM
priceless!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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widdershins
12-26-2006, 08:53 AM
No clue as to how much actual $$$ it's worth, but its "impressing aviation-nerds" value is through the roof.

Very cool!

Akronnick
12-26-2006, 01:51 PM
I like the way they keep it understandable, remember, these things were designed so that farm boys from Iowa could operate these systems, with maybe six months of training.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

---Loose nut removed from cockpit, ship OK

Blutarski2004
12-26-2006, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Akronnick:
I like the way they keep it understandable, remember, these things were designed so that farm boys from Iowa could operate these systems, with maybe six months of training.


..... I agree. It is a marvelously clear comprehensible do***ent covering a highly technical electro-mechanical system. A copy shoul be immediately sent to the people who write software manuals nowadays.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

BLUTARSKI

Sergio_101
12-26-2006, 03:28 PM
Funny, I can remember a stack of various manuals
in leather binding and otherwise at "Bernie Goulds"
gun shop in Medford Massachusettes in the early 1960's.
Bernie had cartons full of that stuff.
Lots of Luftwaffe stuff too.
He was ripping us off for 50C each.

Very nice piece though, I'll bet it could fetch $50+ on Ebay.

For anyone who lived in the area around Medford Mass
we used to refer to Bernie as "The bearded Bandit".

Brings back wonderful memories.
Bernie had been deceased for 35 years.
Don't bother looking him up.

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PFflyer
12-26-2006, 04:55 PM
Here is the Commander'manual for the same plane:


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A friend of mine who was in on the development and testing of the B-29 lent this to me. He says this stuff is hard to find because first it was restricted, and secondly, men in service in WWII did not generally have automobiles and other transportation with which to carry stuff like this home.

My friend checked the radio compasses before take-off on the B-29s that were involved in the attack on Hiroshima, including the Enola Gay. He "ended up" with the flight log from the Enola Gay, which he saved for sixty-years, and just recently gave it back so it could be displayed at the Dulles museum where the Enola Gay has been reasembled and is on display.
This and other B-29 do***ents he has in his possesion are also going to end up being given to, and put on display with the Enola Gay.

A special is coming out on PBS in about a year on the Hiroshima attack and the poeple involved in it, and my friend helped them out with a lot of facts for it, culled from the flight orders and such he saved in a couple of suitcases. As he worked directly under Hap Arnold, he did have a car, and many priveleges most airmen in WWII did not have.......

Maybe the Enola Gay would be a good place to donate the B-29 memorabilia you have also?

Frequent_Flyer
12-26-2006, 05:06 PM
O.K. guys get modeling.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

*****************************"Hitler Built A Fortress Around Europe,But He Forgot to Put A Roof On It" ~ FDR

Esel1964
12-27-2006, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
This is manual for a B29. I also posted this in the "Rarest warbirds parts" thread. My maternal grandfather was a waist gunner on a B29 who flew out of Guam in the 20th AF during WW2 and I have many things from him. This manual goes into many details on the maintenance, service and operation of the gun turrets, the computers and the sights. It is a very good read and was classified material back then. Here are a few photos. Enjoy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


WOW!!!,that's a great piece,it must be an honor to display it.I'd certainly be beaming with pride.Like RCAF Irish said:"priceless".

My high school German teacher(Ed Knipper) of 3 yr.{great guy,we became friends} was a B-29 pilot,based in Guam;wonder if they ever met-small chances,I know.
Mr. Knipper's still alive,if you want to PM me his name/hometown/time in Pacific, I can call and ask him if he knows your grandfather,if you're interested.

*EDIT* A line in the gunner's manual caught my eye.

"CAUTION: Don't run any computer more than 15 min. at a time while on the ground if the temperature in the airplane is hugh enough to make you feel uncomfortable."

I wonder if Bill Gates grandfather designed B-29 AA computers? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TX-Gunslinger
12-28-2006, 01:25 AM
Awesome, thanks for sharing these here. These artifacts are in incredible condition.

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