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Freycinet
07-17-2007, 08:40 AM
R/C helicopter that is!

Great fun, but I have to say it cost me some rotor blades and chinks in the walls before I was able to fly it like this. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It is a Graupner Micro Bell 47G. Unlike the real Bell 47G it doesn't have a tail rotor: the tail is just for looks and to hang the antenna on. Instead it has two counter-rotating main rotors: the lower one is user-controlled via a swash plate, the upper one keeps balance automatically by way of a counterweight.

It ain't easy to fly! - A burst of power to gain height makes the rotor turn faster makes the fuselage turn the opposite direction makes the... - you get the point..

BTW, the commentary is in Danish, but I'm not saying anything important anyway.

OK; I know it isn't one of those videos with a super-professional pilot yanking his r/c heli around the sky and making it look like a dragonfly on crack, but hey, it is still great fun and only cost 165 euros (plus some more in spare rotor blades...). Comments are very welcome!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3197260654246173940

Freycinet
07-17-2007, 08:40 AM
R/C helicopter that is!

Great fun, but I have to say it cost me some rotor blades and chinks in the walls before I was able to fly it like this. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It is a Graupner Micro Bell 47G. Unlike the real Bell 47G it doesn't have a tail rotor: the tail is just for looks and to hang the antenna on. Instead it has two counter-rotating main rotors: the lower one is user-controlled via a swash plate, the upper one keeps balance automatically by way of a counterweight.

It ain't easy to fly! - A burst of power to gain height makes the rotor turn faster makes the fuselage turn the opposite direction makes the... - you get the point..

BTW, the commentary is in Danish, but I'm not saying anything important anyway.

OK; I know it isn't one of those videos with a super-professional pilot yanking his r/c heli around the sky and making it look like a dragonfly on crack, but hey, it is still great fun and only cost 165 euros (plus some more in spare rotor blades...). Comments are very welcome!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3197260654246173940

Abbuzze
07-17-2007, 11:28 AM
nice stuff! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jatro13th
07-17-2007, 01:19 PM
Cool stuff! Would be fun to play around in my garden... 165 Euros you said? I saw something like that in a model shop in town. Hmmmm... I'm off to buy one! Cheers!

mortoma
07-17-2007, 01:40 PM
I want one!!! do they sell that in the states ya think?? Off to google it.........

Abbuzze
07-17-2007, 01:59 PM
If you want to check out something cheaper

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DQNetxF_uaA

http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Heli-Colors/dp/B00...id=1184702214&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Heli-Colors/dp/B000NSFO3W/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7508259-2152119?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1184702214&sr=8-1)

Nice toy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

slo_1_2_3
07-17-2007, 02:03 PM
YEa there is one in the states http://www.hobby-lobby.com/cocolama.htm
But if you think thats hard ,fly one without the coaxial , the co axial is a very stable helicopter ,I have one of these
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/honeybee3.htm
lots of fun ,but I still can't fly it worth a poo

slo_1_2_3
07-17-2007, 02:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abbuzze:
If you want to check out something cheaper

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DQNetxF_uaA

http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Heli-Colors/dp/B00...id=1184702214&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Heli-Colors/dp/B000NSFO3W/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7508259-2152119?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1184702214&sr=8-1)

Nice toy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
O I got one of those the other day, they are a lot of fun. I accidently hit my self in the throat with it though, I'm glad it only weighs a third of an ounce

Freycinet
07-18-2007, 12:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mortoma:
I want one!!! do they sell that in the states ya think?? Off to google it......... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's called a Graupner Micro Bell 47G, I'm sure you can find it in the US too.

mortoma
07-18-2007, 07:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abbuzze:
If you want to check out something cheaper

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DQNetxF_uaA

http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Heli-Colors/dp/B00...id=1184702214&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Havoc-Heli-Colors/dp/B000NSFO3W/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7508259-2152119?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1184702214&sr=8-1)

Nice toy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
O I got one of those the other day, they are a lot of fun. I accidently hit my self in the throat with it though, I'm glad it only weighs a third of an ounce </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am well aware of those toy caliber imitations. They are probably good for a few laughs but they don't have true cyclic control. So you can't get them to go perfectly where you want them to go. But the Graupner like the original poster has does indeed have true cyclic control. Unfortunatly, those don't have real torque/anti-torque control!!! Few, if any of the miniature RC helis have all four traditional heli controls. But the Graupner appeals to me because I'd rather have cyclic control in leiu of torque/anti-torque, if I must do without one or the other.

Freycinet
07-18-2007, 09:50 AM
I also have a few of the really small toy helis, and to say the truth, they're not much fun compared to the Graupner one. In the youtube movie linked above you see the Picco Z flying aimlessly around and that is about all it does. Notice that the movie clips are many and short and always stop just before the small thing bumps into a wall.

About flying the Graupner, I'd say it is pretty hard. They have an onboard gyro, but that only keeps the heli slightly self-stabilised. It still needs a lot of quick corrections to stay more or less in one place, as you can see from the look of intense concentration on my face! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also, the steering is not really intuitive, at least not to me. As you can see I keep the heli turned away from me at all times: if I let it turn towards me my brain can't really get around the "switching directions of input" and things go awry pretty quickly! Should come with practise though.

In the beginning I had to push all the furniture up against the walls to have enough space. I basically needed the whole room for my (sometimes unintentional) maneuvers. Now, as you can see, I have things much better under control. It took me about 20 or 25 flight sessions of 10-minute duration (batttery limit) to get to that level of proficiency.

So, the advice is, always keep the tail pointed towards you in the beginning, and try to go up and fly around at at least one meter altitude, to get out of the propwash, that way you will have a much more steady flight. Also, make sure you have a smooth landing surface, otherwise the heli will tip over on landing pretty often and endanger the rotor blades.

If you're into this, get yourself one, it is fantastic fun!

mortoma
07-18-2007, 05:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
YEa there is one in the states http://www.hobby-lobby.com/cocolama.htm
But if you think thats hard ,fly one without the coaxial , the co axial is a very stable helicopter ,I have one of these
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/honeybee3.htm
lots of fun ,but I still can't fly it worth a poo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't think the Cocolama is the same heli. I may be wrong but I just think it's a similar heli made by a different maker. Anyone know if it's the same exact thing??

slo_1_2_3
07-18-2007, 09:39 PM
I don't know, it may be different. Alot of these helicopters have a different name in every country there sold in it looks the same but it may be a knock off or something, either way it might not be the same brand but I believe it is the same helicopter.
Freycinet what brand is it?

Freycinet
07-20-2007, 09:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
Freycinet what brand is it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't know which heli you are referring to? Mine is a Graupner Micro Bell 47G

slo_1_2_3
07-21-2007, 01:27 AM
O I was asking what brand the helicopter in the video was is it graupner?