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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 02:24 PM
How can I prevent I-153 engine shut down in mid-air? It just shuts donw, while I´m doing normal flight manouvers. I have tried to lower RPM when diving but it doesn´t seem to help.

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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 02:24 PM
How can I prevent I-153 engine shut down in mid-air? It just shuts donw, while I´m doing normal flight manouvers. I have tried to lower RPM when diving but it doesn´t seem to help.

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Zayets
07-29-2003, 02:29 PM
What's a normal flight maneuver? If you dive , then you will push negative G's. I's series , also some Huri models have an inertial carburetor. Pushing negative G's will stop the fuel to flood the carburetor. Without fuel ... well , you know the rest. To avoid this , first do a half roll and the pull the stick in order to dive , this way you will push positive G's ensuring the flow of fuel in your carburetor. there are lotta threads in this forum regarding this issue. And , no , you can't restart the engine in mid air unless you use the autopilot "cheat".


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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 02:32 PM
Roll over until your upside down and gently pull back to begin diving.Once you're ready you can flip back upright.The manoeuvre is also known as a split-s and works with the I-16 and Hurricane aswell.

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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 02:35 PM
So It´s becose of diving. Thanks a lot.

Once I landed on enemy airfield and started my engine again there. There was also 2 BF109:s on the other side of the airfield trying to takeoff and I shot them both down while they were accelerating /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Zayets
07-29-2003, 02:43 PM
Domar2 wrote:
- So It´s becose of diving. Thanks a lot.
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- Once I landed on enemy airfield and started my
- engine again there. There was also 2 BF109:s on the
- other side of the airfield trying to takeoff ...

Hmmmm , wrong WP , heh?
This reminds me of another WW2 story. Canatcuzino , a Romanian ace (over 60 kills including German , Russian , American planes) , was assigned to return this US colonel , downed during an air raid over Ploiesti I believe. This guy had to arrive in Italy. What they did was to use a G2 , without radio and other stuffs and make room for the American pilot. I really don't know how they weren't shot down (I believe there were no marks on the plane) , but imagine a G2 landing in Italy in a sea of B17 , B24 , P-47 , P38 P-51 and so on , preparing for a new raid over Romania , hehehehe.I can imagine the face of the yanks seeing their colonel stepping down from a Romanian plane. The plane remained in US custody , of course. Cantacuzino had the chance to fly in there a Mustang. I can't remember at this time what was the plane he came back with. Probably a Corsair /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif




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fluke39
07-29-2003, 02:44 PM
Zayets wrote:
- What's a normal flight maneuver? If you dive , then
- you will push negative G's. I's series , also some
- Huri models have an inertial carburetor. Pushing
- negative G's will stop the fuel to flood the
- carburetor. Without fuel ... well , you know the
- rest. To avoid this , first do a half roll and the
- pull the stick in order to dive , this way you will
- push positive G's ensuring the flow of fuel in your
- carburetor. there are lotta threads in this forum
- regarding this issue. And , no , you can't restart
- the engine in mid air unless you use the autopilot
- "cheat".
-

i've thought about keeping an answer like that on a word document - assigned to a macro that will cut and paste it onto a reply at the push of a button /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ( along with another one saying "BF is for Bayerische Flugzuegwerke which was the original.........etc" and another saying "yes - four different models are currently being developed" /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


so you got the engine of the i-16 to restart on an enemy airfield - cool! - so if i ever screw the engine up - if i make it to an airfield i can restart the engine?
hope so - i'll try that out in a minute /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Zayets
07-29-2003, 02:47 PM
Here's the link to the story:
http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/cantacuzino/cantacuzino.htm


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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the link. That was a very interesting story.

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fluke39
07-29-2003, 02:59 PM
"The Gustav was destroyed by the Americans, when they tried to fly it and were "stolen away" by it (the all known Me-109 characteristic)."


do you know what this means??

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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 03:05 PM
Great read! Thx for the link.

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Zayets
07-29-2003, 03:13 PM
fluke39 wrote:
- "The Gustav was destroyed by the Americans, when
- they tried to fly it and were "stolen away" by it
- (the all known Me-109 characteristic)."
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- do you know what this means??

I think those guys could not resist temptation of flying a German plane. As you may know , there is a "slight" difference between the US and German planes. While US planes are rock solid , the German ones are much more sensible , yet (here I will get flames) better in many aspects. Such caracteristics can surprise the unwary pilot. I think the phrase should be read like that:
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when
- they tried to fly it and were "carried away" by it
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Put it like that , thee yanks wanted some fun , they took the Gustav for a ride but when they try to fly it like the flown the Jug , that one refuses to obey. Pilot bailed out , plane destroyed. Nevermind , will pay the damages with a brand new Mustang. Waddayasay mr. Cantacuzino? Well , deal! As long as I have a vehicle to go home. The look at this row of 2500 Mustangs and pick one. Now! Beat it! And how do you said this Gustav should be flown?

PS : Long story made short by Zayets , bored because he does not have a computer to play FB.



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XyZspineZyX
08-03-2003, 08:43 PM
Here is what actually happened:

The power of the engine was large and it tended to create a torque while taxing on the ground. After the tail was lifted from the ground, the gyro effect could not be anymore controlled with the brake, because it was practically airborne. This led to the Bf-109's "steal" to the left, which caused a lot of accidents.

XyZspineZyX
08-03-2003, 11:56 PM
Domar2 wrote:
- So It´s becose of diving. Thanks a lot.

Not exactly. It is because of negative g's. There is a definate distinction which could get you in trouble. The fuel is gravity fed to the engine. Think of it this way. In a real aircraft, any maneuver which would push you into your seat is safe as it is also pushing the fuel into the carburator. Any maneuver which would lift you out of your seat is going to also lift the fuel and not allow it to feed the engine, therefore is not safe. Therefore pushing over into a dive will cut the engine by introducing negative g's. Think of going over the crest of a steep hill in your car and the feeling of your stomach being lifted. By rolling inverted and then pulling the stick, you are pulling positive g's. Also note that level inverted flight could have the same effect. Carburated aircraft have limitations on inverted flight for this reason.

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XyZspineZyX
08-04-2003, 12:12 AM
on the original topic ..

just look at old war movies and the way the planes all bank into a dive rather than nosing down and copy that motion and you will be fine

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