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XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 01:08 PM
I am planning to upgrade my Geforce 2mx440 to the new MSI 128MB DDR FX5200 but in a AGP 4X slot. Could anybody please tell me what magnitude of performance increase I would get with this card or recommend another card.
Thank ye
All the best
Fionnan

XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 01:08 PM
I am planning to upgrade my Geforce 2mx440 to the new MSI 128MB DDR FX5200 but in a AGP 4X slot. Could anybody please tell me what magnitude of performance increase I would get with this card or recommend another card.
Thank ye
All the best
Fionnan

XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 01:40 PM
Hi, many said that 4 or 6 % is the magnitude of performance increased, and is probably true. Like many video card that you must pay many for little insignificance performance as 1000 or 2000 points in benchkm...

BY BY and attention at your video buy.

XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 02:06 PM
Thx for your reply. 4-6% seems like a very crappy increase from a GF2 MX440 64mb. Are you sure about that?

XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 06:41 PM
I did the same upgrade and it turned out well compared to what other people may say or think.I'd spend the extra cash for the 5200 Ultra instead though. My frame rates doubled to about 55 60 FPS with the same settings I was using with the G460mx. Add in the AF and AA at 1024x768 the FPS drop to about 30 to 35 but the picture looks awesome. I couldn't do that with my old mx card. To me it was worth the money. The desktop speed pickup as well.

FB is so cpu and memory intensive, so those two are just important.

XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 06:56 PM
My 5200 FX does not do Anisotropic Filtering (AF)...is that because it is a PCI card?

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XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 07:37 PM
get a 5600 instead imo

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XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 07:47 PM
Is the 5200 the new lowend card from Nvidia in the same series as the 5900Ultra? In that case I would stay away and instead get ATI 9500 or Geforce 4 ti-4600 since you probably will be getting much better performance for the same price. Newer video cards doesnâ´t mean better when we talking these low lowend video cards.

XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 08:07 PM
Get the 5600 for like $160

It would be as fast as a 4600 and have all the DX9 goodies. (and be from Nvidia which is a definite plus)

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XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 10:47 PM
The FX5200 is much better than the MX 440 that it replaces.
It's almost as good as the Ti 4200 at lower res and especially with AA and AF turned on.
At high resolutions though the 4200 is much quicker.
It's still a worthwhile improvement over the MX 440 and it may be able to pull away even further with new generation of games supporting Direct x9 features.
There's no point in suggesting a better card since it's pretty obvious you know there are better cards out there too and it's a money issue.
Maybe you would like to consider a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 instead.
They are very cheap now.
Don't forget the FX 5200 is pretty fresh so it's bound to be a bit overpriced for what it offers.
A shop here in Athens is selling the Chaintech Ti 4200 with 64 MB at 85 euros +VAT.
The 64MB are not much of a problem in a card that can't handle much of AA anyway and it is still very good for high res gaming.

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XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 10:55 PM
Just about everything is much better than the 440 MX. And I wouldnâ´t pay extra to get a dx 9 card instead of an dx 8 lowend video card since it wonâ´t have the power to run the new dx 9 games very well anyway.

XyZspineZyX
06-21-2003, 11:11 AM
Thank you all for your replies, they have been very helpful, particular thanks to AKA_PLT_Victor and Christos_SWC, for spelling out the options available and the likely benefits. I am upgrading from a GF2MX so hopefully any improvements will be more noticeable. BTW the card I am buying I am getting in Peats, try Peats.ie, and is the same price as all those suppossed cheap online places like Amazon and Komplett, except that Peat's price includes VAT and delivery, and talking to the shop assisstant if I am not happy with the performance of the card and return within a week will get store credit no questions asked.
BYe
I can't wait to play FB at over 30FPS with the cockpit on, but alas I have to wait. (Stupid exams)

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 03:55 AM
Dont waste your money on the 5200. I bought the non-ultra version as a upgrade from my gf3 without any research. I ended up putting my gf3 back in.

michapma
04-08-2004, 08:24 AM
Here are some further indications:
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/index.html

At least you have a nice graph of the relative clock and memory speeds, plus number of pipelines, buswidth and DX generation. It explains for instance why the Ti4200 is faster at higher resolutions than the FX5200. The 4200 has the same GPU speed and slightly faster memory speed, but it has 8 pipelines as opposed to the 5200's 4 pipelines.

I should think the Ti4200 128MB is still a great purchase for budget gamers. I've gotten along with mine fine for the last year and a half, even though I ask too much of it at 1280x960. A better purchase than the 5200, as they are about $10 apart. Have a look at www.pricewatch.com, (http://www.pricewatch.com,) here's a direct link to the 4200 128MB:
http://www.pricewatch.com/1/37/4913-1.htm

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Bearcat99
04-08-2004, 10:08 AM
If you want more bang for your buck I highly suggest you not go below a 5600Ultra. It is a much better card... I gather you are trying to spend less that $150 US. For the extra bucks you will spend on the 5600 it will be worth it. You can get a 5600,5600 256 or a 5600 Ultra for between $89 & $101 here (http://www.pricewatch.com/).

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