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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 08:25 PM
Has anyone done, or in a position to do a comparison of the usefulness of both these gizmos..

Not really from a perspective of technicalities or empirical merit of each solution.. I was just wondering if there was any significant difference in net-effect gameplay between the two..

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 08:25 PM
Has anyone done, or in a position to do a comparison of the usefulness of both these gizmos..

Not really from a perspective of technicalities or empirical merit of each solution.. I was just wondering if there was any significant difference in net-effect gameplay between the two..

Buzz_25th
10-15-2003, 08:38 PM
Someone did, and TrackIR is better because of the dead zone you can use.

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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 08:47 PM
BOTH are innatural for me.. tried but leaved. EYE Track IR would be a right product (there is something made for total handicap people for write with Pc..) woud be the pain to think about apply it in Sim Game ..response ?..

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 11:31 PM
For the past couple of years I have been a POOR pilot . . . uh . . . financially. I just started a VERY good job, and all that will soon change, so I have Cam2Pan for now. I use it offline for fun, and I will tell you what the major difference is. The track ir cam emits infrared light that is reflected off a dot. It will track only INFRARED light. Cam2Pan is a tracker of the full spectrum. This means that the lighting with C2P must be absolutely PERFECT! And guess what . . . it rarely ever is. There is drifting of the center view that must be constantly corrected. If your wife, child, or pet happens to walk behind you, it will sometimes go off after their motion. AARRRGGGHHH!!


Don't get me wrong. I have recieved alot of enjoyment from this inexpensive little jewel, but there is a tremendous diference between the accuracy of infrared tracking and full spectrum.


Good Luck Mate


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adlabs6
10-16-2003, 12:25 AM
Cam2Pan can work very well as tsisqua said. I got around most of the drift by taping a very bright red LED/battery assembly to the bill of a ballcap, and wore it during play. I almost never lost center, unless someone moved behind me, or I shifted in the chair.



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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 10:39 AM
adlabs6 wrote:
- Cam2Pan can work very well as tsisqua said. I got
- around most of the drift by taping a very bright red
- LED/battery assembly to the bill of a ballcap, and
- wore it during play. I almost never lost center,
- unless someone moved behind me, or I shifted in the
- chair.


I too had this arrangement and found out it worked well.

It also showed out in my testings that a piece of white paper attached on the brim of a baseboll cap reflecting the existing light from the screen was sufficient to make Cam2pan track it without loss the centre.

The main thing making it hard to use was the need of recentering due to my need to shift ind the chair. The shifting appairs without thinkin about it ...and in critical moments u get disoriented and crash..http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

In my opinion the need of a real good gamin seat is as important if u consider on eather set to track headmovement.

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 01:15 PM
I have been using cam2pan for several months now. As with some of the guys above I have adapted a small torchlight fixed to my leather flying helmet and reduced the light pickup size in the cam2pan settings. This gives very accurate tracking under almost any light conditions if you have adjusted the brightness/contrast of the cam picture. Otherwise as I wear glasses occasional reflections would throw the tracking.

You have to pay with the sensitivity settings to tune it to your movement (and in a perfect world to the plane cockpit but most of the time I don't bother).

Extreme movements like the equivalent of looking 6 can throw it - so you have to dedicate a jokstick button to centre if it looses the plot.

After many experiments I could not get the deadzone or automatic cente to work - but after a bit of practice at keeping my head steady I no longer need such aids.

Surprisingly the memory and CPU footprint is negligable - at least on my meduim spec. system.

As I don't use TrackIR I can't tell you the side by side using comparison but....

If you already have a cam: you can download cam2pan and try it for a month free and if it works for you it only costs about $17 - you can then decide what to do with the other $100+ dollars.

If you don't have a cam you must risk $10+ on a cheap cam.


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