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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:00 AM
Hi everyone,

A strange thing just happened twice while I was in a game on HL just a minute ago...I was flying along and ... BLAM, up pops WinDVD! Now, if there was a DVD in my drive, I might not be concerned, but since I use the DVD drive for the FB disc, this wasn't the case. Does anyone out there have any idea what may have caused the DVD program to start up? Since I've had a few beers, I am in a conspiracy theory mood and so I first thought that perhaps someone accessed my IP and started messing with stuff remotely...is this possible? Has this happened to anyone else? Hmmmm.


Thanks for the input (if any!)

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:00 AM
Hi everyone,

A strange thing just happened twice while I was in a game on HL just a minute ago...I was flying along and ... BLAM, up pops WinDVD! Now, if there was a DVD in my drive, I might not be concerned, but since I use the DVD drive for the FB disc, this wasn't the case. Does anyone out there have any idea what may have caused the DVD program to start up? Since I've had a few beers, I am in a conspiracy theory mood and so I first thought that perhaps someone accessed my IP and started messing with stuff remotely...is this possible? Has this happened to anyone else? Hmmmm.


Thanks for the input (if any!)

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:11 AM
I dont know if this is what happened, but I did read about a harmless worm, seems like it was ghost something or another. Anyway, it allowed a hacker basically to gain control of your pc and do things like that. Open cd drives or open and close programs. It was reported as a harmless novelty thing just to screw with people. But then again it may be the result of an alien tranmission to thier invading forces to take over the world. Remember, Just because your paranoid, dosent mean they are not out to get you lol.

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:27 AM
Yes! Yes! Conspiracies!!!

Everyone out with thier aluminum-foil caps to keep THEM from transmitting mind control waves! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 04:46 AM
Something similar happens sometimes for me too:
I´m surfing or doing something else than playing IL-2:FB. But if I does have FB game CD in my drive, something weird happens sometimes: That window of FB from where you can launch game, install it etc. does pop up to screen.
I do then press Exit and that window does close down. I have wondered what causes this.
Maybe some software or worm does try to read my CD drive? I´m sure I am not running any program which may require CD when this happens. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 04:49 AM
Best to do a trojan scan anyway. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 05:07 AM
Redwulf__55 wrote:
- I dont know if this is what happened, but I did read
- about a harmless worm, seems like it was ghost
- something or another. Anyway, it allowed a hacker
- basically to gain control of your pc and do things
- like that. Open cd drives or open and close
- programs. It was reported as a harmless novelty
- thing just to screw with people. But then again it
- may be the result of an alien tranmission to thier
- invading forces to take over the world. Remember,
- Just because your paranoid, dosent mean they are not
- out to get you lol.

You should take these things seriously man. You won't take them in such a light manner when you have to wipe your disk and re-install your OS and all the programs that were on the disk from scratch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Happened to me at least twice.



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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 05:32 AM
Ever since I started playing online in either ubi or HL, my firewall has been intercepting attempts to infiltrate my system with trojans and a bunch of other things. I have a program that will track down the origin of the ip addresses that tried to break in to my computer, and low and behold they were coming from different cities all over the world. Before IL-2 and online gaming, I wasn't getting hit on much and when I did, they were all came from within the U.S. Kinda makes one wonder. Hmm.

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 05:38 AM
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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 06:03 AM
Striker-PBNA wrote:
- Ever since I started playing online in either ubi or
- HL, my firewall has been intercepting attempts to
- infiltrate my system with trojans and a bunch of
- other things. I have a program that will track down
- the origin of the ip addresses that tried to break
- in to my computer, and low and behold they were
- coming from different cities all over the world.
- Before IL-2 and online gaming, I wasn't getting hit
- on much and when I did, they were all came from
- within the U.S. Kinda makes one wonder. Hmm.
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-

Could just be random port scans and not dedicated attempts to get into your system. Also, the attacks could be other infected computers probing yours without the owner's knowledge so even with an IP you are just tracking down another victem.

Then again your computer could just be fnebbed.


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 06:38 AM
I am not sure about the popup window problem.

As far as excessive "hits on your firewall in Hl you might check out this post from the HL forum.

http://hyperfighter.jinak.cz/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=332&highlight=firewall

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 11:49 AM
Striker-PBNA wrote:
- Ever since I started playing online in either ubi or
- HL, my firewall has been intercepting attempts to
- infiltrate my system with trojans and a bunch of
- other things. I have a program that will track down
- the origin of the ip addresses that tried to break
- in to my computer, and low and behold they were
- coming from different cities all over the world.
- Before IL-2 and online gaming, I wasn't getting hit
- on much and when I did, they were all came from
- within the U.S. Kinda makes one wonder. Hmm.
-
-

Isn't this just the other computers attached to HL pinging your system?


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 11:55 AM
Yeah, aliens, whatever. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Seriously, always have at least a good software firewall and antivirus software always running on your comp.

Sygate and AVG have free versions that are very good.

Also, check in your DVD software if you have auto-update on, or something similar. That could have caused the program to open.



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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 12:37 PM
Trying to put trojan horses on my computer? My firewall lets me know if it is a friendly ping. If it is other computers pinging my computer on HL, then they are either trying to put trojans on my computer or just trying to commincate in order to play. I do get pings that alert my firewall program that is determined to be just communication issues, those are from playing HL. Then there are those alerts which warn of communications that are malicious.
DKP wrote:
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- Isn't this just the other computers attached to HL
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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 12:40 PM
My program makes a distinction between friendly pings for playing on HL. It can also tell when someone is trying to put things like trojans on my computer. That what the alerts tell me specifically.
PriK wrote:
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- Could just be random port scans and not dedicated
- attempts to get into your system. Also, the attacks
- could be other infected computers probing yours
- without the owner's knowledge so even with an IP you
- are just tracking down another victem.
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- Then again your computer could just be fnebbed.
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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 12:44 PM
No, it's called trusting what your firewall program alerts me to. The program can tell if the ping is malicious or not. Don't want to stir the bunk up in here, just sharing my experiences with the author of the original post.

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 01:16 PM
Well if you are right that is quite scarey. I have Norton Antivirus and firewall and have never in my life had such a thing happen to me. In fact I have never had a virus...maybe I am lucky.


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 01:49 PM
DKP wrote:
- Well if you are right that is quite scarey. I have
- Norton Antivirus and firewall and have never in my
- life had such a thing happen to me. In fact I have
- never had a virus...maybe I am lucky.
-

Hahaha... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I'll report it to the gigantic green brain that rules my planet and it'll be solved.

YOU'RE THE NEXT... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 01:51 PM
BTW, once I tried to enter HL, and I was sent to strange page where a rather resented guy tried to prevent me of something like that you're telling.

They're watching us.... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:41 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about anti-virus software or Firewall's et-al, as RBJ says they are simply not needed ............ and he should know /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . He does, however, offer a solution, should your unprotected machine become infected by a trojan. Simply re-format your hard drive and re-install windows, together with all your programs and files. Your machine should now be fine for another hour or so. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I offer the following technical advice on what to look for should you suspect your machine has become infected by this type of malicious coding.

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Of course, joking aside, it is always prudent to have some form of security software installed on your machine, even if only at a basic level, as any security is better than none./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:43 PM
Yea, I'm using Norton for all my needs including my firewall. And you know, I don't know nothing about hacking, but it might be possible that the intrusion detections are coming from hackers that register to use Ubi or HL just for the purpose of trying to gain remote access to computers used to play online games, and not just IL-2. Then again it might be coincidence that I didn't start getting pinged with malicious programming from other countries around the world until I started playing online. I really can't say for sure. Only thing I know for sure is that I never was pinged with malicious programming from other countries until I started playing online games. And it is a scary thought and I hope everyone that reads this thread is confident in their firewalls are able to pick up on these attacks. I won't be deterred from playing FB online because of the way I've noticed my firewall intercepting these intrusions. I believe it is doing it's job very well. Before online gaming I was getting 1 or 2 attacks a day from within the U.S. After I started online gaming I recieve about 8 to 12 intrusions from all over the world. Coincidence? I don't think so, but to each his on. ~S~

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:57 PM
I had the exact same problem. Happened tens of times, and only way to get rid of it was to get rid of windvd.

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:30 PM
computer_67 wrote:
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- You should take these things seriously man. You
- won't take them in such a light manner when you have
- to wipe your disk and re-install your OS and all the
- programs that were on the disk from scratch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Happened to me at least twice.
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I was taking it very serious. Thats why I told him about the possible bug. But I could not resist a little dab of humor.

Opportunity may only knock once, but temptation just keep's on knocking.

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 08:12 PM
I know why!!!/i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif u tryed to click F1?? or ctrl+F1?? dont remember whitch one, but u have WINDVD 4 ?/i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif just close it in the pannel where u have clock and other stuff like antivirus program running..../i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif had same problem after got this new DVD program

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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 01:29 AM
Thanks for all the replies folks! I'll try to keep an eye on the circumstances if it happens again.

Wolf, I don't run any programs in the background while flying FB, my system won't handle it, and my system tray only has my anti-virus software running...I'll check for any DVD-related processes running before starting the game next time however.

Again, Thanks for your help gang!

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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 03:12 AM
I don't have this program, but WinDVD could have a deamon running as an 'automatic service' rather than an executable. Services don't show up in the system tray, start folder, the 'run' registry key or the 'task manager'. You have to use an Admin tool to shut down services.
This service could instigate any 'hotkeys' or 'keyboard shortcuts'; if you can't figure out how to shut down the service, look in WinDVD options for hotkeys and disable them.

To those concerned about 'hacking', you seem to be preoccupied with 'pings', but they are nearly completely harmless in themselves.
I would say 50% or more of succesful trojan dumping or worm installation is due to open-filesharing (ports 135, 138, 139 and 445).
Anyone who does half an hour reading can learn to use nothing more than MS-DOS to network to a wrongly configured computer over the internet and access files as though they were sitting infront of it.

Nearly all the 'hits' you are getting are probably automatic, from infected computers or scanners that are set to scan thousands of IP Addresses. Hardly ever is their someone actually trying to get into your specific computer.

By the way, if you've got Win2000 and haven't got a firewall blocking port 135 and 445, you WILL be infected at the moment with a worm which will be contacting thousands of other computers looking for another Win2000 machine or a machine with fileshares. If I turn my Firewall off, I'm infected within 30 seconds. The MS security patches for this exploit didn't seem to work for me, so I have to keep my firewall on all the time now.


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Cpt.LoneRanger
09-22-2003, 08:30 AM
I have my firewall up anytime with my XP and I never had a problem with a virus or worm. But it really raises my eyebrows to look at the firewalls logs:

Installed it 3 days ago (new Version) and had 25559 attempts to connect to my computer, since then, and 447 of those were identified to be trials to actually infiltrate my computer.

For the WinDVD-Problem, there can be many reasons. For one, if you run Win98(SE) and you didn't reinstall for quite a while, it may be, the OS suddenly notices there's a CD in the drive and accesses it. Happend to me too, before I got WinXP.
On the other hand, it may be the drive, having a problem.
For the easiest answer was allready said: WinDVD has some hot buttons, to open it and controll it by pushing key combinations. Maybe these correspond with your IL2-keyboard layout. The WinDVD-Agent (or something similar) would then be visible in the task-bar. So you should be able to check this easily.

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