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tigertalon
04-27-2007, 04:22 AM
Thought I'd share:

from wikipedia:

"Ironically, during World War II, Herman Göing's nephew, Capt. Werner G. Goering, piloted B-17 Flying Fortresses on 48 bombing missions against occupied Europe. Born and raised in Salt Lake City, the young Göing spoke fluent German. After an extensive background check, he was assigned to the 303rd Bombardment Group -- Hell's Angeles -- of the 8th Air Force, based at Molesworth, England. This fact was kept secret by the Army Air Force during the time that young Göing flew missions against Nazi Germany. However, the AAF still assigned him a "uniquely qualified" co-pilot -- First Lt. Jack P. Rencher. Rencher was given orders to shoot him if he ever tried to land in Germany. According to Rencher, however, the only time young Göing wasn't eager to rain destruction on Nazi Germany was when he had to bomb Cologne, where his grandmother lived. "He was neat, clean, a sharp dresser and in every sense military minded," Rencher said. "While I served with him he and I got along well together and I believe made an excellent team. I know of no one I would rather serve as copilot with."

Equally ironically, his younger brother Albert Göing was notable for helping Jews and dissidents survive in Germany during the war."

GreyKnight1971
04-27-2007, 06:39 AM
An interesting little tidbit of info there, cheers tigertalon.

Lets hope I get a question on this in a pub quiz.

Pirschjaeger
04-27-2007, 07:47 AM
Now that's surreal.

Btw TT, interesting quote, considering the times.

Daiichidoku
04-27-2007, 08:04 AM
AFAIK, his first marriage into a Swedish family put him in a bad spot...a good deal of that family had Jewish background in it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Lodovik
04-27-2007, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Now that's surreal.

Like Frank Miller puts it in Martha Washington Goes to War:
"Sometimes war is just really, really dumb."

Cheers for Tigertalon for posting this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

heywooood
04-27-2007, 08:19 AM
sometimes?

shotdownski
04-27-2007, 08:30 AM
Jack Rencher actively participates on the 303rd BG list server and has provided some pretty interesting details about piloting the B-17. I've posted some of his discussions on CEM on these forums.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/296...961097663#2961097663 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/2961097663?r=2961097663#2961097663)

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/197...971097663#1971097663 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/1971097663?r=1971097663#1971097663)

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/739...891097663#3891097663 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/7391097663?r=3891097663#3891097663)

Worf101
04-27-2007, 08:57 AM
No joke, I LOVE learning something new everyday. And most days (read MOST DAYS) you can learn something in these forums. Thank man, things are rarely as black and white as they appear.

Da Worfster

AKA_TAGERT
04-27-2007, 09:08 AM
Makes you wonder why they just didn't station him in the pacific

XyZspineZyX
04-27-2007, 09:53 AM
The German language skills might have been too desireable

I'm more interested in just how the AAF kept the guy's name a secret

Stackhouse25th
04-27-2007, 10:10 AM
the only time young Göing wasn't eager to rain destruction on Nazi Germany was when he had to bomb Cologne, where his grandmother lived

oh thats incredibly nice of him to bomb his own country. nice guy. not. but if he enjoyed flying just because he could then he was ok with it, but still. wuzzup with this dude.

WWSpinDry
04-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Stackhouse25th:
oh thats incredibly nice of him to bomb his own country.
I didn't see anything there about him bombing the USA ...

XyZspineZyX
04-27-2007, 10:42 AM
Costello?

horseback
04-27-2007, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Stackhouse25th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the only time young Göing wasn't eager to rain destruction on Nazi Germany was when he had to bomb Cologne, where his grandmother lived

oh thats incredibly nice of him to bomb his own country. nice guy. not. but if he enjoyed flying just because he could then he was ok with it, but still. wuzzup with this dude. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Stack, there literally THOUSANDS of US military personnel who were first or second generation Americans of German descent during both World Wars.

My maternal grandfather served in the infantry in France during the Great War; HE ended up finding out that he had a couple of first cousins in the trenches opposite his own on Armistice Day. He joked once that if the war had lasted a week or two longer, he'd have had a heck of a time explaining to his Dad why he bayonetted his cousin...

Capt. Goerring was an American, just as much as my Grandfather was. Not wanting to drop TNT on Grandma's house is a relatively normal sentiment. I can see how he might have been conflicted about that.

cheers

horseback

ytareh
04-27-2007, 11:51 AM
Wow thats amazing!And I thought the fact that a relation (nephew) of the Boeing family (makers of B17 daily raining destruction down on Germany 43-45)was a 109 pilot(killed) was strange enough (some say his plane was sabotaged)

Sharpe26
04-27-2007, 11:58 AM
I did come across a Goering in jg26 also.

slarsson
04-27-2007, 01:48 PM
Hitler's nephew fought for the US in WW11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Patrick_Hitler

JG52Karaya-X
04-27-2007, 02:36 PM
and that the brothers had decided in a remarkable pact not to have children themselves in order that Adolf Hitler's genes would die with them.

These are the grand-children of Adolf Hitlers HALF brother Alois... how much Hitler lies in them... next to none

This is silly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif