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SkyChimp
06-27-2006, 08:03 PM
I don't get that. Why?

WTE_Galway
06-27-2006, 08:07 PM
the cessna 152 performed poorly in combat as well

SkyChimp
06-27-2006, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
the cessna 152 performed poorly in combat as well

Yet another American design. I'm seeing a trend here.

cam1936
06-27-2006, 08:37 PM
im 110% sure i could take a mig-29 or a su-27 in a cessna 152. hell id be unstopable, this is what it would look like.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/guitar1936/liaflyingsmall2.jpg

wayno7777
06-27-2006, 08:45 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

cam1936
06-27-2006, 08:52 PM
mig-29 didnt even stand a chance

HellToupee
06-27-2006, 08:53 PM
most capable and best looking american fighter ever http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.militaryhobbies.com/custom/Product/icm48065sm.jpg

SkyChimp
06-27-2006, 08:55 PM
Every Brit on this board believe Great Britian had the best fighters of the war. I agree.

http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/TAM64047.jpg

AVG_WarHawk
06-27-2006, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
Every Brit on this board believe Great Britian had the best fighters of the war. I agree.

Hey, no argument here! P-51 won the war.

Frequent_Flyer
06-27-2006, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
Every Brit on this board believe Great Britian had the best fighters of the war. I agree.
With the Pole's flying 'em They made even the Hurricane ( pictured ) a deadly plane. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/TAM64047.jpg

LEBillfish
06-27-2006, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by cam1936:
im 110% sure i could take a mig-29 or a su-27 in a cessna 152. hell id be unstopable, this is what it would look like.

Actually, you're more correct then you realize......Google it I bet it's out there, but a pair of F-16's tried to take down a Cessna about like that (there is video) that was running drugs.........

The F-16's finally gave up as their missles wouldn't lock and they couldn't gain a solution with their guns (do they have guns?....maybe bot F16s if not) as the cessna pilot would simply evade at the last.......Finally they broke off and gave up, the F16 pilots freaking as they almost lost it a number of times SLOWING to try and get a solution on the cessna causing them to stall.

Guess that's the flip side of the SMugglers Blue's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

LStarosta
06-27-2006, 09:49 PM
Indeed, the Hurry-Can was a deadly aircraft, capable of outperforming the Emmy-on-oh-nine at all altitudes.

cam1936
06-27-2006, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cam1936:
im 110% sure i could take a mig-29 or a su-27 in a cessna 152. hell id be unstopable, this is what it would look like.

Actually, you're more correct then you realize......Google it I bet it's out there, but a pair of F-16's tried to take down a Cessna about like that (there is video) that was running drugs.........

The F-16's finally gave up as their missles wouldn't lock and they couldn't gain a solution with their guns (do they have guns?....maybe bot F16s if not) as the cessna pilot would simply evade at the last.......Finally they broke off and gave up, the F16 pilots freaking as they almost lost it a number of times SLOWING to try and get a solution on the cessna causing them to stall.

Guess that's the flip side of the SMugglers Blue's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well a cessna would have a decent sized radar signature, enough to get a lock you would think.

LStarosta
06-27-2006, 10:08 PM
They probably didn't want to expose the Cessna crew to carcinogenic radiation from the radar. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

WWSensei
06-27-2006, 10:22 PM
The Viper can lock a 152 on radar. I've done it many times off the coast near Langley when a PHF bound student pilot would get confused and line up headed toward LAFB.

Viper also carries 20mm cannon. Specifically, the General Electric M61A1 Vulcan. It is a 6-barrel 20mm cannon of the gatling-type. It fires standard M50 ammunition at 6,000 rounds per minute. Normally, the ammo drum takes 511 rounds.

It would not be difficult to track and down a 152 via a gun run. It's possible to fly sufficiently slow to make a run. Wouldn't be really necessary as a near pass at high would be enough to...ummm...rock the world of a Cessna flyer.

LEBillfish
06-27-2006, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by WWSensei:
The Viper can lock a 152 on radar. I've done it many times off the coast near Langley when a PHF bound student pilot would get confused and line up headed toward LAFB.

Viper also carries 20mm cannon. Specifically, the General Electric M61A1 Vulcan. It is a 6-barrel 20mm cannon of the gatling-type. It fires standard M50 ammunition at 6,000 rounds per minute. Normally, the ammo drum takes 511 rounds.

It would not be difficult to track and down a 152 via a gun run. It's possible to fly sufficiently slow to make a run. Wouldn't be really necessary as a near pass at high would be enough to...ummm...rock the world of a Cessna flyer.

n/p..........I'll find the video, was here where I saw it and I believe included audio.

-HH- Beebop
06-27-2006, 11:05 PM
The Spitfire performed poorly in combat, even though it was an American design

It was? I thought Leslie Howard designed the Spitfire.
http://www.moviesunlimited.com/boxcovers/100_Wide/102012.jpg

................and.....................

Originally posted by Frequent_Flyer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
Every Brit on this board believe Great Britian had the best fighters of the war. I agree.
With the Pole's flying 'em They made even the Hurricane ( pictured ) a deadly plane. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/TAM64047.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What am I missing here? That looks like a P-51 with a Malcom Hood.

I guess I don't know my WWII aviation history after all. thanks for clearing that up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

MrBlueSky1960
06-27-2006, 11:34 PM
SkyPimp... Whats happened, has your Mum gone out and forgot to let you out of your play pen?

So in your boredom you decided to pick the legs off some little insects... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
Now, now you know your not supposed to do that, you know what happened last time... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Nasty little blighter... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Feathered_IV
06-27-2006, 11:34 PM
Here is an out of context smiley: http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

+1 to my post-count. Its like a geek version of a sun tan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif .

Siwarrior
06-27-2006, 11:52 PM
skychimp- smart*** roflmao http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Kurfurst__
06-28-2006, 01:32 AM
Disagree with Chimp here. The Spitfire was fine when it was designed in the 1930s. However FDRs fateful decision to put bombracks on it delayed its introduction by at least two years according to the opinion of countless experts and wartime pilots.

It also lacked fifties until 1944, which severly reduced its effectiveness in an anti - tank role.

Lowenherz
06-28-2006, 01:47 AM
The Luftwaffe also had a squadron of Spitfires - here's something I found on the net that proves it....
http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//spitfire1.jpg

Jasko76
06-28-2006, 02:05 AM
Monkey business! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Xiolablu3
06-28-2006, 02:13 AM
Crappy Spitfire, if only they had designed some real airplanes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif


I am sure I remember Galland asking Goering for 'A flight of P38's for my wing' during the Battle of Britain...

whiteladder
06-28-2006, 03:26 AM
I think an airforce of Cessna would be an excellent idea, probably the deadliest force known to man.

Want proof Mathias Rust, managed to penetrate Soviet air defense system and land in Red Square in 1987.

or this ( admittedly not cessna but anyways)

http://www.brushfirewars.org/aircraft/mfi_9b_biafran/mfi_9b_biafran_1.htm

whiteladder
06-28-2006, 03:38 AM
and a little known fact (probably not here I know) the chief designer for the Mustang...North American Aviation's, Edgar Schmued, a self-taught German Immigrant. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

badatflyski
06-28-2006, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
Every Brit on this board believe Great Britian had the best fighters of the war. I agree.

http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/TAM64047.jpg

yaeh they did, only because they had polish pilots! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

ps:mustangIII from 316sqn if i rember well...ya know, a mustang with a real engine : a Roll-Royce Merlin and not a bad build copy of it like in a p51D http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MEGILE
06-28-2006, 05:59 AM
THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT? LOOL, WHICH BOOKS HAVE YOU READ BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY THEY ARE RONG. SILLY NOOB.

ploughman
06-28-2006, 05:59 AM
Watch it Kurfy, this monkey's nicking your job.

danjama
06-28-2006, 07:28 AM
It's amazing some of the threads that survive round here.

Anyway, an american could never design somethin as beautiful as a Spitfire http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

p1ngu666
06-28-2006, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
Disagree with Chimp here. The Spitfire was fine when it was designed in the 1930s. However FDRs fateful decision to put bombracks on it delayed its introduction by at least two years according to the opinion of countless experts and wartime pilots.

It also lacked fifties until 1944, which severly reduced its effectiveness in an anti - tank role.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

LStarosta
06-28-2006, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Lowenherz:
The Luftwaffe also had a squadron of Spitfires - here's something I found on the net that proves it....
http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//spitfire1.jpg

I'm 80% sure you photoshopped that.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

LStarosta
06-28-2006, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by whiteladder:
I think an airforce of Cessna would be an excellent idea, probably the deadliest force known to man.

Want proof Mathias Rust, managed to penetrate Soviet air defense system and land in Red Square in 1987.

or this ( admittedly not cessna but anyways)

http://www.brushfirewars.org/aircraft/mfi_9b_biafran/mfi_9b_biafran_1.htm

It is a little known fact that the Biafran Air Force (or was it Katanga?) was founded by a certain Polish WWII Ace by the name of Jan Zumbach with a junkyard B-26 with an infantry HMG in the nose and clay-pot bombs being dropped out of the bomb bay by hand on a string-pull signal from the pilot.

True story.

Chuck_Older
06-28-2006, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
I don't get that. Why?

This reminds me of just what those Germans must have been thinking as they bombed Pearl Harbor on that snowy day in July

Xiolablu3
06-28-2006, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lowenherz:
The Luftwaffe also had a squadron of Spitfires - here's something I found on the net that proves it....
http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//spitfire1.jpg

I'm 80% sure you photoshopped that.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am 82% sure he did, damn capatalists trying to rewrite history.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Chuck_Older
06-28-2006, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by whiteladder:
and a little known fact (probably not here I know) the chief designer for the Mustang...North American Aviation's, Edgar Schmued, a self-taught German Immigrant. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

This is only the millionth time this nugget has been dropped here, and it still isn't true that the Mustang was a German design. Schmued was head designer for the project, not sole contributor firstly, and secondly, North American Aviation sprang from General Motors, which was started by a guy named Billy Durant, using money he made from a little known inventor from Scotland named David Dunbar Buick, the man who invented the process by which porcelain is adhered to iron- to make things like bathtubs. David Buick founded Buick Motor Cars (actually Buick auto-vim if I recall), Durant bought it and used it's success to found GM, which spun off NAA

So does that make General Motors a Scottish company?

If I go to Porsche and design a new car for them, is that car an American car? Obviously not, let's get serious

You realise of course that unless Edgar Schmued was a Crow, Pawnee, Arapaho, Sioux, Apache, Blackfoot, etc, that he's not really an American, right? Everyone here hails from someplace else except for the American Indians!

Kurfurst__
06-28-2006, 11:53 AM
Salute all

Thanks for replies on this subject, with the exception of Chuck_Older. I would ask he refraim from posting here again unless he provides useful data. Please try to back up your comments with actual facts.

Xiolablu3, Your complete lack of objectivity is showing once again.

I see more wanton propaganda manipulation by Xiolablu3 about Galland. Galland said : "Give me a Staffel of Buchons". Galland knew well the Buchon was superior.

It is very well documented. Xiolablu3 wantonly adds propaganda and twists the truth out. The LW was flying Spitfires during the La Battaglia d'Inghilterra. The RAF was flying Buchons. The RAF won.

Proof here :

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/eagles_over_london/



Seriously, anyone seen this beauty? Just seen 15mins of it on some rotten down little channel while scanning stuff. This is by far the most suckiest WW2 movie I've ever seen. The plot/dialogues are awful cliches (a German commando dressed as Brits tries to paralyze centrar control during BoB, lol). Photography is splendid, if you've seen 1980s Hong Kong karate films, you know what to expect - extreme zoom in right into the face of every guy saying something dull every minute.

The funniest part are the air battles. Yes, there are airbattles. No, not with models, but genuine He 111, Bf109 'Buchons, and Spitfires. There's a problem though.. altough the plot of action is similiar to the British produce BoB movie (though the scenes are more reminding of Hells Angels) - swarms of Spitfires wearing the LW's Balkenkreuz fight it out with 109 Buchons, flying under the RAF's. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I mean they almost got it right.

Monty_Thrud
06-28-2006, 12:08 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gifOMG!...how long have you been doing stand up?...you've met a girl, havent you?...you've had a knee trembler http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif



...omgwtfomg...you'll be flying the +25Lbs Spitfire online next, saying its teh new best...iam teh SpItFuHrEr...i http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif teh sPiTfEuEr http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I_KG100_Prien
06-28-2006, 12:16 PM
You realise of course that unless Edgar Schmued was a Crow, Pawnee, Arapaho, Sioux, Apache, Blackfoot, etc, that he's not really an American, right? Everyone here hails from someplace else except for the American Indians!

You do realize that even the "American Indians" came from somewhere else right? I.E across the Bering Strait back when there was an "Land Bridge" that connected Asia and North America.

There are no true "Native" people to this part of the world I'm afraid.

Next thin we know you're going to come here and tell us that Columbus "Discovered" the new world....

Bremspropeller
06-28-2006, 12:17 PM
SkyPimp has struck again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

justflyin
06-28-2006, 12:21 PM
The Spitfire won the war!!! Oleg himself told me so. Be sure. http://premium1.uploadit.org/bsamania//2006-02-23_012924_pilot11.gif

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6708/spitfiremt928topview4hr.jpg

Isn't she just the most gorgeous design of lethality and efficiency, you have ever laid eyes on?!?

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9942/spitmkxivback1ff.jpg

Wow, she's even hotter from de back. But, then again, aren't most shapely chicks?!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

ploughman
06-28-2006, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
SkyPimp has struck again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Indeed, tragicallly this master baiting landed no phish. Shame really, it was quality stuff, the Britstangs was a masterful stroke.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Scragbat
06-28-2006, 12:39 PM
Ludicrous...

What next? You'll be telling us the England football coach is Swedish...?

Sillius_Sodus
06-28-2006, 02:26 PM
On the subject of F-16's going after drug smugllers in Cessnas, the U.S. should take a page from the Peruvian Air Force. Down there they use Cessna Citations or Swearingen Merlins equipped with the radar set from the F-16 to find and track suspect aircraft. If said aircraft are not on a filed flight plan and after a certain number of attempts to contact them, they send a pair of Tucanos with gunpods after them. Apparently they have shot down a number of suspected smugllers, and hopefully no aircraft that were just lost. The Tucano is a tandem seat, turboprop powered training aircraft manufactured in Brazil. It's fast enough to catch a light twin and has the low speed handling required to maneuver with singles.

If I knew how to do it I'd post a picture, if another forum member can do it, thank you.

Good hunting,
Sillius_Sodus

justflyin
06-28-2006, 02:41 PM
So let it be written, so let it be done.

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/9554/tucano14fk.jpg

EMB 312 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/brazil/emb312-pics.htm)

Low_Flyer_MkVb
06-28-2006, 02:43 PM
The Belgians paint their jets to look like Spitfires so they frighten the enemy more than a mere American design ever could...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/Belgique.jpg

RCAF_Irish_403
06-28-2006, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
Salute all

Thanks for replies on this subject, with the exception of Chuck_Older. I would ask he refraim from posting here again unless he provides useful data. Please try to back up your comments with actual facts.

Xiolablu3, Your complete lack of objectivity is showing once again.

I see more wanton propaganda manipulation by Xiolablu3 about Galland. Galland said : "Give me a Staffel of Buchons". Galland knew well the Buchon was superior.

It is very well documented. Xiolablu3 wantonly adds propaganda and twists the truth out. The LW was flying Spitfires during the La Battaglia d'Inghilterra. The RAF was flying Buchons. The RAF won.

Proof here :

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/eagles_over_london/



Seriously, anyone seen this beauty? Just seen 15mins of it on some rotten down little channel while scanning stuff. This is by far the most suckiest WW2 movie I've ever seen. The plot/dialogues are awful cliches (a German commando dressed as Brits tries to paralyze centrar control during BoB, lol). Photography is splendid, if you've seen 1980s Hong Kong karate films, you know what to expect - extreme zoom in right into the face of every guy saying something dull every minute.

The funniest part are the air battles. Yes, there are airbattles. No, not with models, but genuine He 111, Bf109 'Buchons, and Spitfires. There's a problem though.. altough the plot of action is similiar to the British produce BoB movie (though the scenes are more reminding of Hells Angels) - swarms of Spitfires wearing the LW's Balkenkreuz fight it out with 109 Buchons, flying under the RAF's. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I mean they almost got it right.

His version of the birth of GM is correct. I've lived in Flint, Michigan my entire life. My great grandfather was best friends with Durant and knew David Buick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Lowenherz
06-28-2006, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lowenherz:
The Luftwaffe also had a squadron of Spitfires - here's something I found on the net that proves it....
http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//spitfire1.jpg

I'm 80% sure you photoshopped that.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am 82% sure he did, damn capatalists trying to rewrite history.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude, it's on the internet!! (It is now!) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif This is Galland's flying circus!

WTE_Galway
06-28-2006, 05:53 PM
Well its certianly true that the Spitfire's kill rate against Tigers increased substantially once they replaced those crappy 20mm hispano's with the great new tank killing 0.50 cals.

Another bit of trivia. We all know how the bombadier in a B17 had to remove the top secret Nordon bomb sight from the aircraft upon RTB and secure it in case of esponiage. What is little known is a similiar rule applied to Spitfire pilots.

Apparently the secret of the Spitfires great turn ability was a high tech device that replaced the old fashioned "trim wheel" with a much more efficient slider device with a knob. The true working of the famous "Rayban Slider" on the Spitfire are still secret even today.

SkyChimp
06-28-2006, 06:07 PM
The Mustang was designed by a Canadian, not a German!

berg417448
06-28-2006, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
The Mustang was designed by a Canadian, not a German!

No no...that was the toque.

Jasko76
06-28-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by RCAF_Irish_403:
I've lived in Flint, Michigan my entire life.

Flint? What do you think of a certain Michael More, then?

SkyChimp
06-28-2006, 06:19 PM
The Spitfire was nothing more than a British attempt to create a Lagg-3.

Jasko76
06-28-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
The Spitfire was nothing more than a British attempt to create a Lagg-3.

Elaborate, please.

How is Lagg similar to Spit, apart from them being inline engined, low wing, moocoque aircraft with cantilever wings and retractable undercarriage? Not a lot of wood used on the Spit though...

berg417448
06-28-2006, 06:32 PM
You got one on the hook....

SkyChimp
06-28-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Jasko76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
The Spitfire was nothing more than a British attempt to create a Lagg-3.

Elaborate, please.

How is Lagg similar to Spit, apart from them being inline engined, low wing, moocoque aircraft with cantilever wings and retractable undercarriage? Not a lot of wood used on the Spit though... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The similarities are too numerous to dismiss this outright. Both had wings. Both had engines and propellors. Both carried guns. Both shot down German planes in droves.

On top of that, the RAF was able to smuggle a Lagg our of Iran to North Africa, then to Europe. From it, the Spitfire was developed.

RCAF_Irish_403
06-28-2006, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Jasko76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RCAF_Irish_403:
I've lived in Flint, Michigan my entire life.

Flint? What do you think of a certain Michael More, then? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

met him twice

SkyChimp
06-28-2006, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by RCAF_Irish_403:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jasko76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RCAF_Irish_403:
I've lived in Flint, Michigan my entire life.

Flint? What do you think of a certain Michael More, then? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

met him twice </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did he mug you for a jelly doughnut?

RCAF_Irish_403
06-28-2006, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RCAF_Irish_403:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jasko76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RCAF_Irish_403:
I've lived in Flint, Michigan my entire life.

Flint? What do you think of a certain Michael More, then? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

met him twice </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did he mug you for a jelly doughnut? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

bwaahahaha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

danjama
06-28-2006, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Jasko76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
The Spitfire was nothing more than a British attempt to create a Lagg-3.

Elaborate, please.

How is Lagg similar to Spit, apart from them being inline engined, low wing, moocoque aircraft with cantilever wings and retractable undercarriage? Not a lot of wood used on the Spit though... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

and how bout the fact spit was designed and made before the lagg3 existed

SkyChimp
06-28-2006, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jasko76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
The Spitfire was nothing more than a British attempt to create a Lagg-3.

Elaborate, please.

How is Lagg similar to Spit, apart from them being inline engined, low wing, moocoque aircraft with cantilever wings and retractable undercarriage? Not a lot of wood used on the Spit though... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

and how bout the fact spit was designed and made before the lagg3 existed </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But not before the Lagg-1, which was virtually the same, only different.

JG53Frankyboy
06-28-2006, 07:53 PM
-first flight of I-301 (LaGG-1) prototype was on 30. March 1940 -

and now SkyChimp can go ahead with his "fishing" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
looks like he is getting some big ones http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AVG_WarHawk
06-28-2006, 08:05 PM
I think you've filled your bag limit on this trip SkyChimp http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif You better quit before the game warden arrives http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif