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Xiolablu3
04-29-2008, 10:29 AM
French Villagers pose with the Spitfire IX YOD July 1st 1944, piloted by Jerry Biling, shot down by flak

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7876/july20120194420spit202lg0.jpg



http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8965/july20120194420spit203lh6.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6797/july20120194420spitqv1.jpg

Look at the strength of the tail, even after that damage...


Whole page with more nice pics of MAlta Spitfire Vc's here :-

http://www.jerrybilling.com/jerry_billing_militery_career%20WWII.htm

bhunter2112
04-29-2008, 12:40 PM
Hard to tell what the original damage was they appear to be stripping it.

Kurfurst__
04-29-2008, 03:02 PM
What damage..? The whole airframe is largely intact, the canvas cover from elevator and rudder is ripped of but that`s it.. canvas isn`t responsible for much structural strenght you know.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

zxwings
04-29-2008, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
French Villagers pose with the Spitfire IX...shot down by flak French villagers...Considering that the Spitfires were there to attack the German invaders, the photos look rather hilarious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Cdn.401_HARRIER
04-29-2008, 11:37 PM
That is a Spit from the #401 RCAF

Xiolablu3
04-30-2008, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
What damage..? The whole airframe is largely intact, the canvas cover from elevator and rudder is ripped of but that`s it.. canvas isn`t responsible for much structural strenght you know.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Yeah, 'what damage'? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif It obviously been hit hard by flak on the tail section and even if it wasnt damaged, thats some serious weight on there,

Besides, I copied the comment from the original page...Its not mine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


I knew you couldnt resist a bit of baiting in both my Spitfire topics, 'Musnt...say... anything...good....about...the...Spitfire' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

muzzlehead
04-30-2008, 08:18 AM
[/QUOTE]French villagers...Considering that the Spitfires were there to attack the German invaders, the photos look rather hilarious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif[/QUOTE]

I thought that was a strange pic also... could it be that not all the French hated the Germans?

Are these Vichy?

dbillo
04-30-2008, 08:23 AM
Doh! I looked at this post expecting to find out how an aircraft could be shot down by images of flak... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

GBrutus
04-30-2008, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by muzzlehead:
French villagers...Considering that the Spitfires were there to attack the German invaders, the photos look rather hilarious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif[/QUOTE]

I thought that was a strange pic also... could it be that not all the French hated the Germans?

Are these Vichy?[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. Judging by the happy expressions on their faces it could be that their part of France had already been liberated.

Xiolablu3
04-30-2008, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by muzzlehead:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">French villagers...Considering that the Spitfires were there to attack the German invaders, the photos look rather hilarious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I thought that was a strange pic also... could it be that not all the French hated the Germans?

Are these Vichy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


They are not gloating, its just an exciting thing that has happened near their home, no doubt if an airplane crashlanded near your house, you would get some pictures of yourselves next to it.

You are reading too much into the photo. It doesnt mean they hate the RAF or the Allies, nor does it mean they support the Germans.

Its simply some people posing next to the plane that crash landed !

DKoor
04-30-2008, 01:39 PM
On related note my grandma, when she was a child, went to some crash site of a Soviet fighter plane with her friends... she remembers seeing bare metal pieces and "pretty silk" (women) in near vicinity of a crash site... however she never found out what happened to that pilot. He obviously tried to bail out...
Anyhow she recalls, no one was happy about it in any way.

Choctaw111
04-30-2008, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by muzzlehead:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">French villagers...Considering that the Spitfires were there to attack the German invaders, the photos look rather hilarious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I thought that was a strange pic also... could it be that not all the French hated the Germans?

Are these Vichy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


They are not gloating, its just an exciting thing that has happened near their home, no doubt if an airplane crashlanded near your house, you would get some pictures of yourselves next to it.

You are reading too much into the photo. It doesnt mean they hate the RAF or the Allies, nor does it mean they support the Germans.

Its simply some people posing next to the plane that crash landed ! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah, that's about what I get out of it.

RetiredRacer
05-02-2008, 02:02 AM
Check out the vidio's on the Jerry Billing website

http://www.jerrybilling.com/jerry_billing_video.htm

WOLFMondo
05-02-2008, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
What damage..? The whole airframe is largely intact, the canvas cover from elevator and rudder is ripped of but that`s it.. canvas isn`t responsible for much structural strenght you know.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The wholes that clearly go through the rear fuselage?

Question though, why is the nose fuel tank and its armour plating completely removed?

stathem
05-02-2008, 03:50 AM
Not sure, but wasn't there some kind of shortage of fuel or something in occupied Western Europe in 1944? Dunno how that happened.

WOLFMondo
05-02-2008, 04:13 AM
:P

Surely siphening the fuel out would have been a little easier than removing an armour plate and a whole fuel tank.

zxwings
05-02-2008, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
They are not gloating, its just an exciting thing that has happened near their home, no doubt if an airplane crashlanded near your house, you would get some pictures of yourselves next to it.

... It doesnt mean they hate the RAF or the Allies, nor does it mean they support the Germans.

Its simply some people posing next to the plane that crash landed !
I, too, think so. They are not gloating, but simply very excited and in a good mood owing to seeing something rare to them. Also, their smiles show us that ordinary civilians in wartime were not at all always like the mental images, full of wretchedness, that we have formed of them from books, videos, or whatever can be called 'the history of WWII'. In an occupied country, people from different strata of the society can experience the same war in radically different ways. Some people die in the war, some die for it, some have relatives or friends killed in it, and some silently endure it, while some in a village, especially a secluded one, may continue to live largely as they have lived, occasionally experiencing exciting things coming out of the war. The villagers' excitement and their smiles out of it are certainly not wicked, nor criticizable, but on the other hand we the viewers still know about the Spitfires, the Germans, and the war - that is where the photos are amusing, which is, as I find, something difficult to explain. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

cawimmer430
05-03-2008, 04:57 AM
Did Jerry Billing take the pictures of the French villagers with his plane?

Bremspropeller
05-03-2008, 04:38 PM
I don't see anything special.
Just another a/c that was unfortunate enough to be shot down.