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ploughman
09-23-2007, 07:43 AM
Does anyone know where I can get a fully functional SMLE, the Mk III 1907 pattern for preference, in North America?

Responses most appreciated.

BillyTheKid_22
09-23-2007, 07:59 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f6/SMLE_Mk_III.jpg/800px-SMLE_Mk_III.jpg

bmoffa
09-23-2007, 08:20 AM
I think if you prowl around enough local gun shops you will come across one. I've been away from shooting for a number of years, but there always seemed to be one or two of those in the used gun racks in just about any old gun shot.

Personally, I think that was one of the ugliest rifles ever built.

Good luck.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-23-2007, 08:42 AM
I believe this very question has cropped up in Tagert's M1 thread, with a helpful link.

Having trouble with the neighbours, old chum?

HotelBushranger
09-23-2007, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by bmoffa:
I think if you prowl around enough local gun shops you will come across one. I've been away from shooting for a number of years, but there always seemed to be one or two of those in the used gun racks in just about any old gun shot.

Personally, I think that was one of the ugliest rifles ever built.

Good luck.

Blasphemer! <shakes fist> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

han freak solo
09-23-2007, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Does anyone know where I can get a fully functional SMLE, the Mk III 1907 pattern for preference, in North America?

Responses most appreciated.

Find a local gun shop that either specializes in military surplus guns or will order from a surplus supplier such as this. (http://www.aimsurplus.com/)

Here's another cool site that has a good links page.http://www.surplusrifle.com/ The Links Page. (http://www.surplusrifle.com/links.asp)

And since this thread might turn in the wrong direction, here's a pic of a die hard hunter that has a drunk driving conviction. (If you believe e-mails.) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.lssdigital.com/lwpilot/DUI_hunter.jpg

AKA_TAGERT
09-23-2007, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
http://www.lssdigital.com/lwpilot/DUI_hunter.jpg
now that is old school! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Monterey13
09-23-2007, 09:34 AM
Where is his rifle? I'll bet he picked it up after a car hit it. A man's gotta eat. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

leitmotiv
09-23-2007, 11:10 AM
The Lee-Enfield wreaked havoc in WWI. The British regulars at Mons, 1914, laid down such withering fire the hapless German regiments thought the British had machine guns in each company. It is sexy like a good cosh. Another example of American-British cross-fertilization.

han freak solo
09-23-2007, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Monterey13:
Where is his rifle? I'll bet he picked it up after a car hit it. A man's gotta eat. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

C'mon! Can't you see he hit it with his bicycle! That bicycle is made of the most sturdy material known to man, also known as Unobtanium.

flakwagen
09-23-2007, 12:26 PM
You have a few options in the USA.

1. Empire Arms: http://www.empirearms.com

EA is run by a former coin dealer and is based out of Florida. He provides a description and a photo of each gun he sells. He's fanatical about that sort of thing. I suggest signing up for his mailing list. It's very educational.

2. AIM Surplus: http://www.aimsurplus.com

AIM has a limited selection, but when they do have something you want, it's usually on sale for a good price. They have prompt shipping and good customer service.

3. Century Arms: http://www.centuryarms.com

Century Arms has a huge inventory. Quality can vary wildly from item to item. And in my opinion, their website is nearly unusable. It would be best for you to order a copy of their catalog. It's the only way to make heads or tails of what they have on offer.

These places might not have No.1 Mk.III rifles in stock at the moment, but they are an excellent starting point. AIM Surplus does have Enfield pattern rifles in stock at the moment, but they are .308 caliber rifles made at the Indian Ishapore Armory.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Enf-2A__Enfield_2A_...._7.62x51_Rifles.html (http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Enf-2A__Enfield_2A_.308_NATO_7.62x51_Rifles.html)


By the way, if you intend to start collecting military surplus rifles, it would be a good idea to apply for a Type 03 Curio & Relics Federal Firearms License. It'll allow you to order qualifying firearms directly through the mail. A lot of merchants give discounts to C&R holders, so it's worth it!

http://www.atf.gov/

Good luck.

Flak

ploughman
09-23-2007, 01:15 PM
Thanks guys, I knew you'd be able to give me some pointers and I really appreciate your assistance. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

polak5
09-23-2007, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:

http://www.lssdigital.com/lwpilot/DUI_hunter.jpg

HAHHAHA http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif that had me rolling http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Taylortony
09-23-2007, 01:51 PM
paaaahh

U want something like these

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/bofors.htm

http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/gaz/sale.html

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2007, 02:13 PM
Whose M1 thread? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I just saw a whole bunch of them things today at a gun show. Don't like them personally. I'd rather have a 1903A3 Springfield. They were 400-1000 bucks, depending on condition. I saw a lend-lease M1 for 4200 dollars US. All because it was lend-lease. Pfff. Mine was used in the war, it was 600 dollars, in the same condition. You'd think John Wayne had used it to earn a medal! Anyway, there are gun trader mags and shows all the time, now that hunting season is starting

han freak solo
09-23-2007, 02:15 PM
Some really, really old deer action. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fwL4kp21iNQ)

Skoshi Tiger
09-23-2007, 11:11 PM
By all account you should be trying to pick up ones built in Lithgow (Australia - Colt won the tender to set up the machine shop at the Lithgow factory)

If your after a shooter concider one made in the inter-war period (1920's-early to 30's). Apparently they are a little bit better quality as they didn't have to rush them.

Check for pitting in the barrel and excessive wear. When they used corrosive primers they had to wash out the barrels with hot water to clean out the salts produced during firing. This had to be done after every firing session to avoid rusting. Also the original cordite loads burn very hot leading to barrel wear.

If the guns have missmatiching serial numbers on the bolt and reciever get a gunsmith to check out the head spacing. (A ruptured case can be quite alarming so I hear!)

Your firing a rimmed cartridge so if your reloading ammunition, cases can (and do) stretch, so neck size where possible so you don't over work the cases.

Consider using mild loads to make it more pleasant to shoot and extend the life of your gun (these are a peice of history). If your after velocities, go for a modern rifles that you can really crank up! The SMLE is a rear locking action so you get a bit of flex in the action with hot loads.

Grand_Armee
09-24-2007, 01:04 AM
Try shotgunnews.com It's full of dealers (like Empire arms) and private gunowners trying to sell their stuff. I used to get the paper version when I was living in the States.

If you can't find it in shotgun news, it's so rare that nobody wants to sell it. PLus you'll find places that want to sell .303 ammo by the crate load.

CH47D
09-24-2007, 09:00 AM
The Enfield is a fun rifle to shoot, I have several. These are not hard to find, check out these two auction sites -

AuctionArms.com

Gunbroker.com

You will need to have them shipped to an FFL dealer in your area. If you need additional help please feel free to contact me off the list.