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BoneDaddy1844
10-15-2004, 07:46 PM
After watching 'James Cameron's Expedition: Bismarck' and the more recent 'Hood vs. Bismarck' documentaries on the Discovery channel, I've wondered if it is time to do a re-make of the British 1960 film 'Sink the Bismarck'. Or better yet, a whole new screenplay, knowing what we know now of the demise of the Bismarck.

Today's movie technology could allow for a fantastic telling of the destruction of the Hood and the inevitable evisceration of the Bismarck and her crew. Just not sure how well this movie concept would be received by a film industry intent on cranking out dopey movies based on comic-book characters and end-of-the-world scenarios.

How about Rutger Hauer for the role of Adm. Lutjens?

BoneDaddy1844
10-15-2004, 07:46 PM
After watching 'James Cameron's Expedition: Bismarck' and the more recent 'Hood vs. Bismarck' documentaries on the Discovery channel, I've wondered if it is time to do a re-make of the British 1960 film 'Sink the Bismarck'. Or better yet, a whole new screenplay, knowing what we know now of the demise of the Bismarck.

Today's movie technology could allow for a fantastic telling of the destruction of the Hood and the inevitable evisceration of the Bismarck and her crew. Just not sure how well this movie concept would be received by a film industry intent on cranking out dopey movies based on comic-book characters and end-of-the-world scenarios.

How about Rutger Hauer for the role of Adm. Lutjens?

Farkitt_
10-15-2004, 08:37 PM
Problem is, the only place with enough dough to make a movie such as that properly is Hollywood, and they'd make it so the Americans sunk the Bismark

hauitsme
10-15-2004, 08:58 PM
The British did hit it with a torp from a Swordfish, but that wasn't it that jammed the rudder, it was an American SCUBA diver that placed a wrench in the works that did it! Then he pulled the cork out of the keel of the ship and then it sank!
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BoneDaddy1844
10-15-2004, 09:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hauitsme:
The British did hit it with a torp from a Swordfish, but that wasn't it that jammed the rudder, it was an American SCUBA diver that placed a wrench in the works that did it! Then he pulled the cork out of the keel of the ship and then it sank!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/crazy2.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

****! And I thought it was the Germans who opened all the seacocks...

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macker33
10-15-2004, 10:34 PM
The bismarck was scuttled alright,
It would be great if they did make a new bismarck movie,imagine it on the big screen.
If it was made with the same realism as das boo it would be great.

Unfortunately the way the movie industry makes films today the captain of the bismarck would be played by a very sensible women,that and about 5 times too many closeups of the actors(and actresses).

Has anybody in their life ever seen a WWII animated movie,or even a WWII cartoon(besides justice league).

Farkitt_
10-15-2004, 11:54 PM
lol, lucky i read all your post hauitsme! after reading the first line and a half the blood was boiling! lol, good stuff mate,

If ya believe hollywood, the americans captured the Enigma, and are soon to win the battle of britain!

hauitsme
10-16-2004, 12:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Farkitt_:
If ya believe hollywood, the americans captured the Enigma, and are soon to win the battle of britain! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You only got it half right. The Americans DID capture the Enema. But they never had a chance to win the BoB. Hitler did that by cancelling the attacks on the airfields!

Enema - Enigma......What's the difference?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/Consider.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/scratchchin.gif

Erich Hartmann
10-16-2004, 02:12 AM
Ey I just read 2 days ago about that battle and I also think they should make it a movie, the sinking of the Hood appears to be very dramatic and will be cool for a movie as well as the next battles.

Macker33, your right about the capitan beeing sensible in a Hollywood movie. They should make it like movies like "A Bridge To Far" or "The longest Day" or "Battle Of Britan", where they focus on the big picture, the strategy, not in a single actor, so the main character wont be the captain of the Bismark, he will be ONE of the main characters.

LostGunner
10-16-2004, 03:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by macker33:


Has anybody in their life ever seen a WWII animated movie,or even a WWII cartoon(besides justice league). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yes during WWII their were many WWII cartoons. ( animated movies I'm not sure of ? ) As a youngster of 9 years in 1944 I and my little friends would go to the local movie theater allmost every Saturday ( $0.09 cents 12 years & under ) and just before "Hopalong Cassity", "The Lone Ranger",etc. there would be a "Donald Duck", "Mickey Mouse" even Mickey's dog "Pluto" WWII cartoon and there were others of many sorts.

Wow 9 cents U.S. for a kid to the movies, try that nowdays. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

And no I'm not old just because I can remember Gas Wars for $0.9 & 12 cents a gallon. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

julien673
10-16-2004, 04:26 PM
and we know who will be the terrible cruel crew .... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

finchOU
10-16-2004, 04:33 PM
"Problem is, the only place with enough dough to make a movie such as that properly is Hollywood, and they'd make it so the Americans sunk the Bismark"

I think of Hollywood as entertainment value only.....it pisses me off when they put a spin on history to make a better storyline.....but can see through most of the BS.

U-571 though unrealistic as hell was entertaining (the sad part is when people take such a film's acuracy at face value.......I call it the "Top Gun" factor amongst other Aviator types)

macker33
10-16-2004, 07:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LostGunner:
Wow 9 cents U.S. for a kid to the movies, try that nowdays. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Think thats bad?it was a little while before my time but years ago in cork "smallies"could get into the pictures if they had two empty jamjars.
I myself can remember before the days of plastic bottles you could bring empty lemonade bottles for a refund.
If a big bottle of coke cost 15p you could get 3p refund on money back bottles.If you went to the shop with ten bottles you could choose to go to the outdoor baths or the pictures with your winnings.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">You know what would be a good film?</span>
OPERATION SEALION.
I'm thinking of something along the lines of "a bridge too far",a big 3 hour spectacular,ten minutes into the film before the first bit of dialogue,a proper war film.

Farkitt_
10-16-2004, 08:30 PM
Well yes, the Americans did capture an Enigma, But the British got one first.

As for the Enema, That is a definate possibility http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

hauitsme
10-17-2004, 03:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Farkitt: If ya believe hollywood, the americans captured the Enigma...

Hauitsme: The Americans DID capture the Enema...

Farkitt: Well yes, the Americans did capture an Enigma, But the British got one first. As for the Enema, that is a definate possibility.
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I was being sarcastic to the first of your posts - you know, U-571.
As to the second, you are the first that I remember to comment about my 'Enema - Enigma......What's the difference?' posts. I've done that a few times and no-one else has noticed!

macker33
10-17-2004, 10:02 PM
Who cares about enigma?enigma and all that code breaking is boring,bullits and bombs are a lot more fun.

Jose.MaC
10-18-2004, 08:52 AM
But your sub survival depends on the fact that you have a secure channel to telegraph your position. Otherwise, you give too much info!

macker33
10-19-2004, 12:58 AM
In real life yeah,but on war in general code breaking has to be near the bottom of interesting things to do,its right down there with diplomacy.
I much rather things that go boom.
Panthers in the shadows and tigers on the prowl.

E.Thang
10-20-2004, 08:21 AM
TriStar Pictures Presents - A Ron Howard Film - "5 Days" Starring Brad Pitt as Captain Lindemann : Sean Connery as Admiral Lutjens : Robert DeNiro as Captain of the Essex : Angelina Jolie as 'The Stowaway' : and a special guest appearance by Don Knotts as the Incredible Mr. Limpit!

In this rousing action tale watch history come alive as the incredible Mr. Limpit hunts down the Bismark for the Britsh Navy, Watch as DeNiro tracks Bismark through the Kattegatt Straights then morphs into Frankenstien and kils his entire crew! See Angelina as she plays Frau Ivana Getuoff. Discovered by the crew, and then thrown into the brig, only to be released as the crew discovers she is the only one that can repair the damaged rudder with a stick of bubblegum, The elastic waist band from her thong, and an old wisk from the galley!

'A heart pounding tale of action and realism' - Matt segal

'I peed my pants instead of missing a single second' - Washington Post

(Based on a true story)

- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Yeah I can see Hollywood screwing this one up big time! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

SailorSteve
10-20-2004, 08:14 PM
E.Thang, before you post I wish you'd do your research and get your facts right; everyone knows Henry Limpet didn't turn into a sub-hunting fish until 1943!

By the way, brilliant summation and review. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

macker33
10-21-2004, 08:26 AM
A film about eben emal would be good,anything with german paratroopers,

TASKFORCE1x1
10-23-2004, 02:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BoneDaddy1844:
After watching 'James Cameron's Expedition: ............... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



The Bismark isnt going to sink on my watch! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

macker33
10-25-2004, 08:46 AM
A film about the scharnhorst would be good,it had a good run out and went down fighting,
it could have escaped but instead decided to return to the ring before being knocked out,all guns blazing.

hauitsme
10-25-2004, 09:51 PM
Make them ALL over again, but only if they're done without any LIFEBOATS!!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/titanic.gif
Everybody dies, no survivors!!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/drown.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/drown.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/drown.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/drown.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/drown.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/drown.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/drown.gif

lobosrul
10-25-2004, 10:28 PM
Hmm, maybe HBO could do it. Band of Brothers was truely awesome. In fact Id say it was the best show, or movie ever made for TV. Yeah I know it was about Americans and we do nothing but tout our own horn yatta yatta yatta. But they seem to stick to history, especialy when Hanks and Spielberg are producing.

Messervy
10-26-2004, 02:03 AM
It`s been a while since proper "Gotterdaemerung" film was produced.
Scharnhorst fits the Teutonic story perfectly.

"Do not rejoyce in his defeat, you men...
the ***** that bore him is in heat again!"

B.Brecht


PS
The "parental wizzard" edited the essential word
B I T C H ....he, he...it is so easy to get around....he, he

The way the word B I T C H is used here is not offensive in any way!

macker33
10-29-2004, 05:25 AM
Hollywood does get some things right,a film about monte cassino would be great,
a kind of 50-50 film seen from both sides that looks and sounds like saving private ryan and without the sentimentality,
A superstar bombs and bullits extraviganza and definately no judd law.